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Paula Creamer better than Michelle Wie now, will always be better than Wie

Sunday July 24, 2005 | 05:21:14 337 words, 13454 views
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While Michelle Wie’s endless defenders come up with more excuses for their no-win marketing machine, Paula Creamer continues to show why she’s the best young talent in women’s golf. It’s hard for Wie’s hype mongers to accept this because Creamer has actually earned her way to the trophy stand.

Then, you have Michelle Wie who is starting to make Susan Lucci’s old trophy drought look like child’s play.

The debate’s over people. Creamer destroyed Wie by eight strokes at the Evian Masters, one of the women’s golf biggest money events. And let’s drop that ridiculous argument that Wie’s finished ahead of Creamer in a few tournaments.

Finishing ahead of someone else but not coming close to winning yourself is as bad as “almost” making the cut. Here’s the facts. Creamer has two LPGA titles in her rookie year. Wie has none having played in more events than some 21-year-old seasoned pros.

Creamer has two significant tournament wins this year. Wie has none.

It’s all about winning. That’s the bottom line in sports. Creamer wins. Wie comes close, usually finding a way, any way, to mentally lose it.

Maybe, this is because Creamer’s parents actually encouraged their daughter to wait until she was 18 to become a virtual full-time pro (which Wie is at 15 no matter what her official status is). Maybe, it’s simply because Creamer is mentally tougher than Wie.

Who really knows why? The only thing that’s inarguable is that the bottom line does not lie.

Jennifer Mario and the rest of her Wie worshiping, ridiculous-facts-citing posse should take the time to get to know Paula Creamer’s story. Creamer has everything they desperately want Wie to have. She’s even less jaded and more open in interviews at 18 than Wie is at 15.

Maybe, that’s because Paula Creamer is actually a golf story. Michelle Wie is just a marketing one.

For the full story on Paula Creamer, who recently talked to TravelGolf.com, stay tuned to the sites. For the latest on Michelle Wie, just wait for more hype.

Comments:

Comment from: John D [Visitor]
Right On !!!!
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 05:54
Comment from: June [Visitor]
I thought you are against the hype machine working on Michelle.

No, you are just plain stupid and have some grudge against Michelle herslef, I presume.

Pathetic. Just pathetic. Bashing a 15 year olg girl for good reason as a full time job.

Why so much hating?

My guess, you were once dumped by a girl named Michelle and still recovering. Ha! Grow up, man. Just grow up.
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 06:08
Comment from: Jen [Visitor]
This is an awful article. How can you, in the right mind bash a 15 year old girl? Michelle Wie did not ask for all of this media attention, the attention came to her. She simply shows up and plays golf and listens to what her parents tell her to do (which is what all 15 year olds should do). I commend Wie for putting up with all of the critics when she should be commended for trying her best in every game.
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 07:27
Comment from: Cheryl [Visitor]
That is probably the most idiotic thing I've ever read.

Paula Creamer is three years older than Michelle Wie, and that is a pretty big gap in experience.

You have absolutely no basis for your argument unless you compare what they did at their respective ages.
If Michelle is Paula's age and still has not won anything then you you have a point .
If you compare what Michelle Wie has accomplished as a 15 year old and what Paula Creamer has done--its no contest at all. Michelle has achieved way much more .

I'm sure when you were 15 years old you have "mentally lost at things" (probably many times)--that's just how it is we do better when we know better.

Why don't you back up your blog with some facts--
Michelle has finished ahead of Paula in every tournament they played with the exception of the Evian Masters, and the last day of the Women's U.S. Open.

Paula has played in a LOT of tournaments since she has gone pro -she was bound to win a couple of times.
Michelle is still an amateur playing in a lot less tournaments over her summer vacation.

By the way, Annika Sorenstam was in the Top 5 on Day 3 of the Evian Masters, played badly on Day 4 and ended up 12th. She must not be mentally tough either by your estimation.

Michelle is a 15 year old girl-who has finished 2nd and 4th in women's majors, got to the quarterfinals of the Men's Pub Links, and has countless Top 20 finishes but you only choose to focus on the negative.

Guess what, they're not really negatives-SHE'S ONLY 15-the fact that she has accomplished all these things is nothing short of amazing.

Paula Creamer at 18 has NEVER even come in 2nd at a women's major and Michelle Wie has--and now she's going to be better than Michelle because she won 2 tournaments?
One of which (the Sybase) where Annika didn't even play?

You are one pathetic, emasculated man. Wow, jealous and vindictive of a 15 year old who has accomplished more in her 15 years than you have in your 30-40 years.

Honestly, your hatred of Michelle is a bit unnatural- I have my suspicions that you are a racist and sexist as well--which only adds to your sorry existence.
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 09:11
Comment from: andy [Visitor]
Remind me. How did Paula Creamer do in the Evian Masters when she was 15?
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 09:14
Comment from: Kyle [Visitor]

If Michelle Wie finishes ahead of Paula Creamer at the British Open---we want your balding, big toothed behind writing an article how much better Michelle Wie is than Paula Creamer and always will be.

Hmmm--when Paula was finishing behind Michelle all those times what exactly were you writing?

Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 09:20
Comment from: Karen [Visitor]
From a REAL writer Don McKee from the Philadelphia Inquirer

Fore. How do we know Michelle Wie has made a big impact on the LPGA Tour? She's already being ridiculed by the naysayers for "never having won anything."

When a 15-year-old is put in the same class with, say, Colin Montgomerie and Donovan McNabb, she's already won. Big.
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 09:25
Comment from: Paul [Visitor]
Chris, Chris, Chris...

You were asking for a scalding on this one... If you like Paula so much (which isn't a bad thing) why not just write about her, why add the diatribe about Wie...

They are both exceptional players and will both have places in the golf world for a long time to come...

Remember the old saying, which is as true today as it was when it was coined...

"If you don't have something good to say, say nothing at all"
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 09:54
Comment from: Melissa [Visitor]


You're probably just a dirty old man lusting after Paula Creamer!





Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 10:01
Comment from: Leonard [Visitor]
Michelle is a great talent and she is playing at an incredible level for a young girl. I wonder what type of player will be come when she goes pro. Will she be dominant like Tiger or Annika or just be another great talent that can win the big one? With all her talent, she hasn't learned how to win. Take a look at Tiger, 6 straight US amateurs, including the Jr. Amateurs. When he came out on tour WE KNEW HE WOULD DOMINATE. I can't say the same for Michelle. I want her to learn how to win by playing on the junior circuit and when she truly is ready to enter the big stage, I'll be watching the boob toob enjoying the ride.
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 10:01
Comment from: AkamaiOkole [Visitor]
You are an idiot. Granted, Paula Creamer is an incredible talent. So is Michelle. Given that Paula is 3 years older than Michelle, (a LONG time at those young ages), it stands to reason that Paula would have a slight increase in maturity. None of this justifies a page long bashing of Michelle. Yeah, she has won anything at the pro level yet, but i guess 3 2nd-places -- including one in a major -- in 6 events doesnt mean jack to you. Michelle lost 2 of those to golfers who were hot and blew away the field -- Michelle happened to beat EVERYONE ELSE.

Yes, Paula is hot right now and is playing some incredible golf, but to say that she will ALWAYS be better than michelle is simply riduculous.

Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 10:16
Comment from: Peter [Visitor]
Chris, PLEASE tell me you're not getting paid to write that crap!

I can't believe I just wasted 90 seconds of my life reading probably the most asinine article ever written.

I know you got beat up by 15 year old girls a lot when you were younger but don't take it out on Michelle !

Oh yeah Michelle is still 4-2 head to head against Paula---and still 3 years younger!!
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 10:36
Comment from: Ann [Visitor]
Needless to say you have little to no material to back your statement. Creamer has won two tournaments her rookie year, she is a great golfer. But to compare her to Wie and state that she far surpasses Wie BECAUSE of these two wins, proves your lack of understanding the hype that is Michelle Wie. I take that back, Michelle Wie is NOT just a "hype" the media makes her to be, she is the real deal.

You say their is not basis to prove her hype? Just look at the 3 PGA tournaments she has been in. Granted she was shots behind in the cut in the 2005 Sony Open, she missed her other two cuts by one and two strokes. How did Annika, the greatest female golfer of our time did, faired? She missed the cut by FOUR strokes. Even Annika did not come as close as Michelle did to making the cut, and yet Michelle is still only a hype.

No, let's NOT drop the fact that Wie in many of the events that she played with Creamer has finished AHEAD of her. Not just a "few" events as you have said, but in MOST of the events Michelle was ahead of Creamer. YES, AHEAD. If you can use Creamer's two wins, one of which Annika was not present, as an argument, I don't see why you can't take Michelle's other results into consideration. Also, since when does playing in a few LPGA events qualify as "virtual full-time pro." Need I remind you that she's on her summer vacation while doing this? For a person that makes a living writing about golf, you sure know a lot.

Had Michelle been a professional, she has been estimated to have made already $500,000-$600,000 in the SIX events she has played this year. Creamer, who has SIXTEEN tournaments under her belt this year, is making $1,000,000-$1,200,000. According to this, Michelle would have either likely earned at least as much as Creamer or, more likely, EXCEEDED Creamer's earnings. And yet, she is nothing but hype right?

Oh, wait. Did you realize that she is 15 while comparing her to 18 year-old Creamer? Let's see what Creamer accomplished at the age of 15 compared to Wie. Nothing. I needn't even list Wie's acheivements for a 15-year old, there'd be too many. Now at 15 she is comparatively equal or, as most would argue, better than 18 year-old Creamer. Wie is yet to be 18, we have yet to see her the extent of her talent as she completes part-time on tour. The reason for Michelle Wie's greatness is her age. No one, not even Tiger Woods or Annika Sorenstam, could build a resume quite as outstanding as Wie has at the age of 15. Your refusal, and those of naysayes, to take her age into account boggles me. Michelle Wie has won yet to win, but comparing her to Donovan Mcnabb is something. Phil Mickelson did not win a Major until last year, yet he is one of the best golf. Last I checked, Wie finished Second in two Majors this year and had the lead coming into the final round of the US Open. Once again, you're right. Michelle Wie is nothing but hype.

What makes your argument all the more ludicruos is your comparison to how both of them interview? Wait, I never realized how interviews went had anything to do with their game? But a writer of your great stature took such a thing into account. You have proven something you know. Your complete idiocy and lack of any talent as a writer. Even a highschool student, like Michelle Wie let's say, know that a good, even a satisfactory, essay needs to have sufficient evidence to back up claims. Yet, a writer like you didn't think interviewing was ridiculous evidence. No, let's just drop your ridiculous arguments and personal attack against Wie.

Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 10:42
Comment from: Josh [Visitor]
Paula better win as much as she can now, because as soon as Michelle turns pro -its all over for everyone else!

Chris--you must have really small balls...
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 10:56
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
Ann - Had Michelle been a professional, she has been estimated to have made already $500,000-$600,000 in the SIX events she has played this year. Creamer, who has SIXTEEN tournaments under her belt this year, is making $1,000,000-$1,200,000. According to this, Michelle would have either likely earned at least as much as Creamer or, more likely, EXCEEDED Creamer's earnings. And yet, she is nothing but hype right? FACT: Wie has won nothing - NADA, ZERO, ZILCH ! ! So all she has is an estimate of what she MAY have earned IF she was PRO.
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 11:46
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
Oh, I forgot - THINK PINK ! ! !
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 11:51
Comment from: Eugene [Visitor]
The author of this article is gutless and pathetic. Find something better to do that bash a young, teenage girl - one who is not a full time golfer and will starting the school year in the fall.
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 12:13
Comment from: Ann [Visitor]
To John D.

I think you might have proven my point. Michelle Wie, as you've agreed, would probably, in estimates, be a greater golfer than Creamer if she turns pro. Fortunately, she has yet to be one and is still in highschool concentrating on her education. Don't get me wrong, Creamer is a great golfer. There is no doubt that these two young ladies would be great two watch as they compete against each other in the future. What Creamer and Wie has done for women's golf has been insurmountable. But to compare her to Michelle Wie, and so radically make such statements as saying Creamer will always be better is too early in the game and completely unfair. It's like comparing shoes to sneakers. They are similar but completely different. I have nothing against Creamer, in fact I like her. I'm just a bigger Michelle fan, I believe that both players have yet to show their full potential. I just disagree with many of the author's remarks.
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 12:32
Comment from: SYS [Visitor]
Okay, so the verdict is in: You ARE an idiot.



Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 12:50
Comment from: Christopher [Visitor]

I hope you didn't get paid more than a small bag of skittles for that P.O.S article.

Michelle is not only smarter than you, more talented than you, better looking than you, will be richer than you , she can even write a better column than you.

Actually my eight year old cousin could construct a better argument than that...

Dude-time to give up this writing thing and go back to living at your mom's garage.
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 13:18
Comment from: John [Visitor]
I was going to write a rebuttal but seems others have already and quite emphatically. Clearly, you are an envious mean-spirited hack who probably can't shoot below 95.
Pathetic I think has already been said - I second it.
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 14:20
Comment from: Paul [Visitor]
What a pathetically weak premise and foundation. While Creamer may be at a higher level right now than Wie, the idea that it proves she is better and always will be is unfounded. You talk about her being tougher mentally and how she has won two significant tournaments, while only as an aside mentioning that she is 18 to Wie's 15. Of course she is mentally tougher and more possibly more advanced, she has had 3 more years to develop. Given 3 more years, I'd find it very surprising to find Michelle Win with ONLY two significant wins by the time she is 18. Next time, please put more thought into your premise / comparison and more substantiation into your arguement.
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 14:48
Comment from: mm [Visitor] · http://wahine
Paula Creamer won 2 tournaments, Michelle Wie came in 2nd on 3. To say Creamer will always be better than Wie?..nobody knows the answer...only time will tell. I feel Michelle Wie already has the game to compete with professionals, men & women. All she needs is to be strong mentally & that will come with experience which will take time. Wie has said herself, she's in no rush & has all the time in the world. Not sure why people expect a 15 year old to win every tournament she enters. Is Wie all hype? I don't think so. All I know is this, before Michelle Wie, I had no interest in watching Golf, knew nothing about the game, thought it was a boring. So why do I watch it now? One, I want to see a local girl do good (I'm also from Hawaii) & two, I admire her attitude & determination to be the best she can be. And to achieve her goal, she plays with men too. I also compete with men & understand where Wie is coming from. I rather lose to a higher level man, learn & get more knowledge than kick another woman's ass & gain nothing. All around, Wie is giving Golf more exposure by all this attention, the LPGA & PGA will benefit from it for sure & make more fans like me, who before, didn't know what birdies, pars, bogeys, meant.
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 14:54
Comment from: Mike [Visitor]
Hype - I don't think so. Wie is already, at 15, one of the world's top 10 female golfers.

There are over 150 players on the LPGA tour right now that would kill for Wie's record in 2005.

To say that Wie's story isn't a golf story is just boneheaded ignorance. It's not as if Wie knocked Creamer off the front pages today, but finishing second in one of the biggest event in Europe is still a huge *golfing* achievement for any 15 year old.

Of course, it's way to much to expect, but why don't you be a man and admit you were wrong this time?
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 15:52
Comment from: Corinne [Visitor]


Michelle came in 2nd after starting miserably -if she didn't have that one bad day -who knows if she wouldn't have won this tournament. The fact that she saved what could have been a poor outing and got a Top 2 finish out of it is just amazing.

Michelle will have an extremely successful golf career for the next 30 or so years , and it gives me great pleasure to know that you will be downright miserable through all of it...
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 16:17
Comment from: Heywood Jablowme [Visitor]
may be this guy is the disgnated Michelle-basher so that this website gets lots of hits as it has...
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 16:41
Comment from: Mike [Visitor]
Chris Baldwin, Don't try to create chaos and negativity where there is none. Paula Creamer is a class act and a true champion and DOES NOT NEED YOUR IDIOTIC COMMENTS to support her cause, her outstanding play is enough to do that! I won't comment on the mindless dribble of a column that you wrote because I wasted enough time reading it. By the way....are YOU OLD ENOUGH to play the game of journalism? Take some of your own advice and go back to PJA qualifying school! (PJA - Professional Journalism Association)
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 20:12
Comment from: Stephen [Visitor]
Chris Baldwin, you're a hell bent on writing almost anything against a young and talented golfer, Michelle Wie or everything to do with her. You are a nightmare of man with a small and bigoted mind. As to the other sad guy on this posting that cackles with glee screeching against Wie, you too make another example of bad gene pool.

Understand this, Michelle Wie inspires other minority girls and boys just as Tiger Woods did earlier in the 20th century. Hate comes in all forms and to couch your comments on golfing qualifications is sick.
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 20:39
Comment from: alan [Visitor]
Well Chris you cetainly achieved what you set out to do when writing this article. The response has been quite outstanding, all in favour of Wie and rubbishing your opinion. I know that you don't really believe what you have written, you couldn't be that stupid.
The British Open will be interesting to watch to see how these girls fair.
One thing is for sure its in with the new and out with the old as far as womens golf is concerned.
TV Ratings are rocketing and not because of Annika, 80% of it is due to the Big Weasy.
Alan



Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 21:57
Comment from: Lilian Too [Visitor]
The only reason many people actually even bother to find out to follow and find out the results of "some" LPGA events is precisely because Michelle Wie plays in them. So dont deny that you actually know she's got the ability to amaze us with her golfing prowess.

Paula Creamer will probably be the next Annika, she's awesome. But when Michelle Wie brings her mental act up to match her physical abilities, this writer better start liking the taste of his soles.
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 22:43
Comment from: Bill Donnelly [Visitor]
In the tournament following her initial win, if I recall correctly, Creamer placed 62d. How does that fit with your comparison. You also didn't mention that Michelle attends the top private high school in Honolulu, whereas Creamer moved to Florida to concentrate on learning and practicing golf.
WILDONHI
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 22:52
Comment from: roy brown [Visitor]
I was wondering how much Chris Baldwin would be worshiping a 15 year old boy playing on the PGA tour and having the same results as Michelle Wie is having on the LPGA?

I can imagine Baldwins commentary now..."Not only is this 15 year old boy beating 3/4 of the MEN in every tournament he plays in, he's a darn good high school student with a 4.0 GPA...just wait until he figures out how to win!! Watch out Tiger!!!"
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 22:58
Comment from: BOB MARTIN [Visitor]
AFTER HAVING BEEN IN THE INVESTMENT BUSINESS FOR OVER FORTY YEARS I LEARNED (THE HARD WAY) THERE IS ONE INFALLIBLE RULE THAT HAS PROVED UNASSAILABE AGAINST THE TEST OF TIME.-----THE MAJORITY OPINIAN IS ALWAYS WRONG WHEN PREDICTING THE FUTURE. LOOKING OVER THE EMAIL RESPONSES TO YOUR ARTICLE WIE VS CREAMER IT IS AS CLOSE TO A SURE BET AS ONE CAN GET THAT YOU ARE UNEQUIVICABLY CORRECT. CREAMER WILL DOMINATE WIE! BOB
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 23:20
Comment from: kuchkuch [Visitor]
I think the whole point of this article is create a buzz so as to get more hits, otherwise who in their right mind would be stupid enough to right such a garbage.
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 23:30
Comment from: Kevin [Visitor]

You must hate Michelle Wie a lot if you're willing to gamble on your credibility as a writer just to bash her.

Will anyone ever take you seriously again as a writer after what you just wrote? I highly doubt it.

You can never get your credibility back ,everytime Michelle Wie wins a tournament or Paula Creamer falters, you put yourself out there to look the fool. When you say that Creamer will "always be" better than Michelle, you denied yourself an out clause to go
" Oops, I made a mistake."
Not only do you have zero evidence to support what you're "reporting" , you let your emotions get the best of you and just totally looked like a major you-know-what. Unfortunately, it is on the internet and you just exposed your ignorance to thousands of people.

When I first read your diatribe, I thought it was written by some jealous 13 year old girl who hated all the attention Michelle was getting. How sad to see it was written by a full grown man.
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 23:30
Comment from: Peter [Visitor]

Bob Martin-yeah your argument really makes sense since investment business has so much in common with golf...

Everyone else in the real world would rather depend on tangible evidence to form an opinion about something...

From everything I've seen and comparing their accomplishments at their respective ages --Michelle Wie is by far the more talented golfer with the larger potential.

Paula Creamer will be good, but not as good as Michelle.
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 23:36
Comment from: Mario [Visitor]

Chris--all that Rogaine you're using has seeped into your brain !!

You got to quit smoking the crack too or your mom will kick you out of her basement.
Permalink 2005-07-24 @ 23:41
Comment from: Andrew McLean [Visitor] · http://non
Again, what did Paula come in the Evian masters when she was 15. As well, Michelle came second beating some of the best golfers in the world, including Sorenstam. Let's see how many tournaments, Michelle has won when she is 18. Pffft, you just write this crap so people talk on your blog.
Permalink 2005-07-25 @ 00:03
Comment from: B Coffey [Visitor]
It seems I hear Vijay Singh always complaining that the press mentions Tiger losing to him instead of him beating Tiger. Funny how they always mention Tiger. (: miss Wie, you made it.
Permalink 2005-07-25 @ 01:43
Comment from: Peter [Visitor]
Obviously the guy lacks the intelligence and ability to write a persuasive and thought provoking column and must resort to ludicrous assertions to gain any kind of attention. As the numerous rebuttals display the ease at poking holes in his argument. Do we have to put up with the rantings of some half-wit? I won't and will avoid this site in the future.
Permalink 2005-07-25 @ 03:08
Comment from: John [Visitor]
What were you doing when you were 15? Spanking your monkey and practicing keystrokes? Get a life. Michelle's potential is enormous and barely tapped. She's got a jackhammer swing and she only needs to turn her short game and clutch putts up a notch, period. Oh yeah, and maybe get a driver's license.
Permalink 2005-07-25 @ 11:43
Comment from: Lynn [Visitor]
I watched both play in the US Women's Open at Cherry Hills this year. Creamer IS better than Wie- for now. However, as many of you pointed out, it's comparing apples to oranges. Creamer is 18- Wie is 15 (almost 16).

How many LPGA tourneys did Creamer win at 15? NONE! I would hate to make a judgment on the entire career of two people when they are 18 and 15.

As you guys said- idiotic!
Permalink 2005-07-25 @ 11:54
Comment from: Gail [Visitor]
Whoa, whoa, whoa, ladies and gentlemen can we please take off the boxing gloves? There is no reason we cannot love both of these young, talented players; as they are deserving of nothing less.

Surely these girls would hate all of this bickering, after all, they claim to like each other. I recall reading last summer that while flying to the UK to compete in the Curtis Cup, Paula and Michelle sat next to each other and talked the entire flight about their shared love for fashion.

So let's all calm down and agree to support both of them as they pursue their respective dreams, Paula's to make the US Solheim Team and become the best golfer in the LPGA and Michelle's to play in the Master's and make "Tiger money."

You go Girls!
Permalink 2005-07-25 @ 15:03
Comment from: Gail [Visitor]
Oh, and one more thing....

It is useless to compare Michelle's career with any one else's. Unless every talented junior of the same age gets the best equipment, lessons with David Leadbetter, a pro caddie, the same number of LPGA/USGA sponsor's exemptions, on which to 'cut their teeth' there is no comparison.

But one thing is for certain, IF all talented teens were given this benefit package one of them would eventually win a pro event. After all, "even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while."
Permalink 2005-07-25 @ 15:09
Comment from: Holstein Nine [Visitor]
Ppphhh! What a loser you are!!!
Permalink 2005-07-25 @ 15:53
Comment from: Rex [Visitor]
Paula and Michelle really are friends, based primarily on their shared Curtis Cup experiences. And Paula will be the first to tell you that she plays against the course; not against another player. These comparisons are not really fair to either player at this point, and only time will tell. The amazing thing about Paula, first voiced by one of the AJGA officers several years ago, is that Paula continues to improve year after year. After winning most of the Northern California junior golf tournaments at the age of 11, she started playing in AJGA tournaments, and slowly worked her way up the rankings, into the top 20, then the top 10, and then #1. Then she started to play in the women's amateur events, along with three LPGA events in 2003. Last year she played exclusively in women's amateur events plus she scheduled herself (with eager and cooperating sponsor's exemptions) into 5 tournaments (mostly LPGA) in a row to get a feel for what life would be like on the tour. She knew whe wanted to go pro, but two things happened to clinch it. First, various college coaches (Duke, Stanford, Arizona) told her that they really didn't have anything to offer to add to her game, and second, she medaled at the LPGA Q-school in December (as an amateur). So, she turned pro. She started off slowly, and then gained steam. She is really on a roll now! Michelle is taking a really different career path (avoiding junior golf altogether), so it will be interesting to see if she continues to improve at the same rate as Paula is. Only time will tell.
Permalink 2005-07-25 @ 16:57
Comment from: Corinne [Visitor]

Gail-you don't sound too supportive of Michelle in your posts there...

Michelle is an extremely talented golfer and do you honestly think Paula Creamer doesn't have those advantages?

Do you know her family moved to Florida just so she can attend the Leadbetter Academy ? Do you have any idea all the top personal trainers, and mental toughness coaches she is going to. I'm from Florida so we know all about Paula Creamer here.

Paula actually has more advantages since she can play in tournaments on the mainland with better competition. Not to mention all she has to do is drive to most of the tournaments while Michelle has to fly.

Michelle has worked hard on her game, and it sucks you are belittling all the hard work she had done.
Permalink 2005-07-25 @ 18:28
Comment from: Paul [Visitor]
I don't like comparing the two players and neither do they. Paula is putting the Records in the Records Book and if Wie wants to go after them they are there for the taking. All Paula is doing is breaking the records that were there before she came on the scene, not looking to compete against "only" Michelle.
Permalink 2005-07-25 @ 19:03
Comment from: Blake [Visitor]
Uhh Gail- sorry, you don't know what you're talking about. All the Leadbetter private lessons, latest and greatest equipment, and most experience pro caddies won't make any aspiring young golfer a world class player. Takes talent for that.
Permalink 2005-07-25 @ 23:39
Comment from: Shayne [Visitor]

Chris + Gail + John D = IDIOT FOOLS
Permalink 2005-07-25 @ 23:57
Comment from: Dave [Visitor]
I hope Chris and Gail don't ever meet and have kids together or we'll have to deal with the dumbest child ever born.

I would include John D - but he's probably some impotent old fool.
Permalink 2005-07-26 @ 00:00
Comment from: Claire [Visitor]
Get a life Chris. Michelle is a 15 yrs old kid who has a tremendous amount of talent. Why so harsh on her? What did u accomplish when you were 15? Nada!

Permalink 2005-07-26 @ 02:37
Comment from: Arnie [Visitor]
Don't rip on Gail; what she said is somewhat true. I agree Michelle Wie is an amazing talent for her age. But there is no way she is near the top amateur golfer in the country. She hasn't even proven she's the best female amateur at this point, much less the best when you include the men. There are literally hundreds, maybe thousands, of men who have the game she has and surely many, many college male players who have her game or better. Didn't some no name from Utah smoke her in the APL and some teenage girl beat her last year?

I'm not ripping Michelle, I'm just saying don't get so carried away with saying she has talent nobody else has and that the amazing assistance she has been provided hasn't contributed to where she it at this point. She's proven that she is a great talent, but there are others out there like her, perhaps some that would be performing on a similar level if they had those options and/or chose the path she has chosen (straight to playing the pros). We just don't know.

I'm very curious to see how she matures. I predict she will be a solid female golfer and will win a lot of LPGA tournaments. Anything beyond that is unlikely, but possible.
Permalink 2005-07-26 @ 11:40
Comment from: MO [Visitor]
I'm interpreting the author's gripe as "Wie gets too much attention just because she is 15". Creamer is winning, is 9th in the Solhiem Cup rankings, and easily rookie of the year, and yet virtually no press. This goes for every other LPGA touring pro, 15 or not. Annika who?

When Wie played in the John Deer Classic (PGA Tour event), the Golf Channel showed highlights of Wie for the first two days of the tourney. This frustrated me. I love golf, all golf. I want to see the leaderboard of the tournament, and maybe some great shots made by PGA Tour players. Nope, just Wie. I expected Wie highlights, not the Wie channel.

Mr. Baldwin, please use your press space to give Creamer (and the other worthy PGA/LGPA members) the attention she deserves without a Wie comparison. I'm sure most of the golf world won't read it, but I will.
Permalink 2005-07-26 @ 19:37
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
Good job Chris. You know when they personally attack back, you have made your point and they really have no good argument. You know Wie has NOT won. They know Wie has not won. Differnce is, they can't admit it.
Permalink 2005-07-26 @ 21:35
Comment from: fred [Visitor]
Chris you must be related to that other idiot, Alec Baldwin. Michelle has created so much interest in the LPGA and the Amateur events unlike any other female golfer. I predict the televison rating will fall once she goes back to school for her JUNIOR year. So even if you fell in your small mind Paula is better no one cares.
Permalink 2005-07-26 @ 21:48
Comment from: John Hoffman [Visitor]
You said it like it is. Creamer has more mental toughness then Wie will ever have. Wie better turn Pro while she has the Hype because it will not be long before she has the "CHOKE syndrome. Too bad her parents don't know how to bring her along. Maybe another Kornakova but without the sex appeal.
Permalink 2005-07-26 @ 22:41
Comment from: Dave [Visitor]
Hey John D and Chris

Since everything you guys have written have been personal attacks--then yeah you're right you "really have no good argument"

John Hoffman --where was Paula Creamer's toughness when she finished behind Michelle all these years. Michelle is still ahead 4-2 head to head --yeah she has two wins but she's got an extra 3 years and an over 20 tournament experience over Michelle.

By the way- did Paula even come close to Michelle's success when she was 15 --absolutely not
She hasn't even finished as high as Michelle in a major and she's older with more experience.

How do you how much mental toughness Michelle will have in her life -she's only 15!
You were probably still wetting your bed then...
Permalink 2005-07-26 @ 23:22
Comment from: Claire Voyant [Visitor]
Three years from today...

Michelle Wie will have won several tournaments and be adored by millions of fans around the world...

Chris Baldwin, if he still has a forum in which to write, will be known only as the idiot that humiliated himself by attacking Michelle Wie gratuitously three years earlier ...

John Hoffman (see above, the sleazebag who's knocking a 15 yr. old girl for her lack of "sex appeal")will still be a bitter loser working in his dirty cubicle...
Permalink 2005-07-26 @ 23:47
Comment from: fred [Visitor]

Right on Claire, written like a true visionary. Imo, in golf the one quality most admired by me is the ability to hit the long ball. If you look at how far Annika and Michelle drive it, 280+ some of the courses nuffilies their greatest asset, the long ball, and you gotta let the big dog eat.
Permalink 2005-07-27 @ 02:03
Comment from: Terri [Visitor]
Hey John Hoffman,
Wow, what an original name, how long did it take to think that one up. Probably just as long as it took to think up your entire post. By the way it's spelled "Kournikova"
Permalink 2005-07-27 @ 05:28
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
Dear Dave, "Right On !!!!" WHERE IS THE ATTACK? "Ann - Had Michelle been a professional, she has been estimated to have made already $500,000-$600,000 in the SIX events she has played this year. Creamer, who has SIXTEEN tournaments under her belt this year, is making $1,000,000-$1,200,000. According to this, Michelle would have either likely earned at least as much as Creamer or, more likely, EXCEEDED Creamer's earnings. And yet, she is nothing but hype right? FACT: Wie has won nothing - NADA, ZERO, ZILCH ! ! So all she has is an estimate of what she MAY have earned IF she was PRO." WHERE IS THE ATTACK? "Oh, I forgot - THINK PINK ! ! !" WHERE IS THE ATTACK? "Good job Chris. You know when they personally attack back, you have made your point and they really have no good argument. You know Wie has NOT won. They know Wie has not won. Differnce is, they can't admit it." WHERE IS THE ATTACK? Nobody was called an IDIOT here either! All FACTS ! ! !
Permalink 2005-07-27 @ 06:50
Comment from: Shanks [Visitor]
Hey Chris, do you think you stepped on a raw nerve??? I'll have to agree with you - partially. Anyone who actually PLAYS the game at the highest level would rather have the 2 wins as opposed to a bunch of "almosts". So right now Creamer is DEFINITELY ahead of Wie.

But I have to disagree about their futures. Wie is going to be as dominant as Nicklaus & Tiger BUT will have many worthy challengers like Creamer, Pressel & maybe Ochoa - if she ever gets over those 18th hole demons. The only thing holding Wie back is her 15 year-old maturity. Remember that the way she is losing now is exactly the same thing that Tom Watson went through IN HIS EARLY 20's! He was actually labeled a choker until he learned how to win. When Wie finally crosses that threshhold, look out bexcause it's going to be something to see.
Permalink 2005-07-27 @ 08:14
Comment from: Al [Visitor]


Chris--have you been fired yet ?
Permalink 2005-07-27 @ 14:33
Comment from: Ho-J [Visitor]
Chris, you are an idiot! I don't think you have sufficient brain power to make a sound judgement...

The reason for that is because, Michelle is only 15 years old... not 18 y.o. as Paula. The difference of 3 years in teenage is a very long time. How can you even think of comparing Michelle with Paula at this point in time? Why did you not wait until Michelle reaches the age of 18+ years and write your still "stupid" article... to be REALLY FAIR...
Permalink 2005-07-27 @ 16:54
Comment from: Tom [Visitor]
It's hard to say 'where was Creamer when she was 15' because people mature at different rates. Some people are great early and are done at 25 while others find their game later. She is certainly hitting her stride now. I have watched every televised tourney Michelle and Paula have played in and I would say Michelle is probably better tee to green but Paula is a superior putter. Now ask yourself, which will win you more tournaments? Johnny Miller always says if you can't putt when you're young you're in trouble.
Permalink 2005-07-27 @ 18:38
Comment from: Henry [Visitor] · http://Visitor
When Nike gives her the largest contract of any female of any sport. They sure as hell will think she's the best golfer. Paula's winnings will be pennies compared to the money Michelle will be making.

By the way Paula's career money winnings are a little skewed. Essentially everyone who finishes behind Michelle gets the money she couldn't earn because she is an amatuer. For example Paula got $36,000 more when she finished tied for third behind Michelle who finished second in the LPGA Championships. Keep the 36K Paula Michelle doesn't need it.
Permalink 2005-07-27 @ 19:33
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
Boycott Nike NOW ! ! ! If everyone would, they could not support the so called "Amateurs". I an amateur is getting help from any outside source, such as Nike, they should no longer be considered AMATEUR.
Permalink 2005-07-27 @ 20:22
Comment from: R. Dean [Visitor]
I was recommended to this site by a friend to look for golf vacations. After reading Mr.Baldwin's "daily blog" about Ms. Wie I'll go to other sites.

Some people are also blaming Ms. Wie's parents but you gotta understand that this is something that Ms. Wie WANTS to do. She isn't being forced. I wish more children (teens) have this attitude. Be the best you can be. Set high goals.

Permalink 2005-07-27 @ 20:31
Comment from: Rob [Visitor]
As of Wed July 27, all players (LPGA players and Amateurs) with the most money earned per LPGA tournament this season:

1) A Sorenstam ($149 G)
2) a)-M Wie ($88 G)
3) L Ochoa ($80 G)
4) P Creamer ($69 G)
5) C Kerr ($66 G)
6) M Baena ($53 G)
7) M Lee ($43 G)
8) C Kung ($43 G)
9) R Jones ($42 G)
10) N Gulbis ($41 G)
Permalink 2005-07-27 @ 20:38
Comment from: Greg Pinelli [Visitor]
I love Chris and John D! They make almost everyone with an IQ over 70 feel superior. It is not all about winning....it's about making significant showings in important events. IF IT WERE ALL ABOUT WINNING WIE COULD PLAY IN ANY NUMBER OF AMATEUR WOMEN'S EVENTS AND BRING HOME TONS OF USELESS METAL CRAP.......
Michelle Wie (and Paula Creamer) are worthy players because they stuck their necks out and faced competition at levels above where most thought they belonged. Michelle is especially worthy of admiration...not only is she a better player than Tiger Woods was at 15 (I MEAN HEAD ON..STRAIGHT UP...PLAY 18)...she has the courage to lose and accept that it takes her farther down the road.
Is it just me...or is there something more to this simple minded antipathy I'm reading concerning Wie??

Permalink 2005-07-27 @ 21:05
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
You must have a grudge-against-Wie disease. I certainly hope that you get fired.
Permalink 2005-07-27 @ 21:14
Comment from: Kylie [Visitor]
Chris--looks like your girl Paula is 64th right now at the British Open and oh yeah---Michelle's ahead of her
Permalink 2005-07-28 @ 11:39
Comment from: fred [Visitor]
John D. boycott Nike?? hmmm, what about Stanford, Duke for giving amateurs a golf scholarship, playing privileges and neat golf stuff. because of they play golf.
Permalink 2005-07-28 @ 14:22
Comment from: fred [Visitor]
John D. boycott Nike?? hmmm, what about Stanford, Duke for giving amateurs a golf scholarship, playing privileges and neat golf stuff. because of their ability to play golf.
Permalink 2005-07-28 @ 14:24
Comment from: Jack [Visitor] · http://visitor
I stopped watching the PGA because of the Tiger Woods hipe. Networks show the highlights of his last tournament even thou he is not playing in the current televised event. I started watching the LPGA and enjoy their talent but now it's the same old thing Michelle Wie, Michelle Wie and more Michelle Wie. Give us a break and let us see the game - show the great shots of all the players that are playing in the current event.
Permalink 2005-07-28 @ 14:31
Comment from: BOB MARTIN [Visitor]
Carlota Ciganda HAS ANYONE READ ANYTHING ABOUT THIS 15 YEAR OLD SPANISH GOLFER?--- WELL SHE SHOT AN EVEN PAR 72 TODAY TYING FOR SEVENTH IN THE BRITISH OPEN---THE OTHER 15 YEAR OLD IS TIED FOR 32ND---
Permalink 2005-07-28 @ 18:06
Comment from: PAT [Visitor]
ROB--ENJOYED READING YOUR STATS---COULD YOU POSSIBLY DO ONE MORE?---WHO WOULD HAVE WON MORE MONEY CREAMER OR WIE TAKING JUST THE TOURNAMENTS THEY BOTH PLAYED IN?---THANKS--PAT
Permalink 2005-07-28 @ 18:38
Comment from: Kenneth [Visitor]
Bob Martin--

Maybe because Carlota Ciganda has played that course many times and it was Michelle's first time playing in that course.

Also, Annika is 1 over so is that other 15 year old better than Annika too ?

Or maybe it was because Michelle and Annika were playing during the worst part of the bad weather...

Its only Thursday --Geesh...

I didn't know grown up men like Bob , John, and Chris can act like such bitches !

Permalink 2005-07-28 @ 18:41
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
Right On - Jack I stopped watching the PGA because of the Tiger Woods hipe. Networks show the highlights of his last tournament even thou he is not playing in the current televised event. I started watching the LPGA and enjoy their talent but now it's the same old thing Michelle Wie, Michelle Wie and more Michelle Wie. Give us a break and let us see the game - show the great shots of all the players that are playing in the current event.
Permalink 2005-07-28 @ 20:14
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
Look everyone! Look at me I can cut and Paste!
Permalink 2005-07-29 @ 03:54
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
There is an imposter among us...Who says they can cut and paste. JEALOUS?
Permalink 2005-07-29 @ 05:40
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
Did you ever notice how the TV networks always put Tigger at the top of the group on the leaderboard? If there are 3 guys tied for 3rd, Tigger will be listed first. And it doesn't matter if he worked his way there from the bottom or the top of the pack. And, it is not because he is #1 player, because, a few weeks ago, when Singh was #1, and Tigger was tied with Singh, Tigger was still listed on top.
Permalink 2005-07-29 @ 05:47
Comment from: Arnie [Visitor]
This is such a comical thread of whiners. Everyone is an expert on the web, ain't they? All we KNOW about Wie and Creamer is what they are actually doing as of today. As of today, all we know is that exceptional female golfers capable of competing with the best female golfers in the world. Everything else (such as how many tournaments they will win, whether Wie can play with the men, etc.) is just hype and speculation. Sports are not played on paper. They are played on the field of play, the pitch, the course, etc. Winners are winners because they go out and actually win, not because we're so SURE they're going to win in the future. Until Michelle or Paula actually rack up a string of wins or (in Michelle's world prove she can actually COMPETE with the men), they are simply exceptional female golfers. The only thing we know is that Paula has proven already that she can win. My guess is Michelle will do so fairly soon. Can we all give this a rest?
Permalink 2005-07-29 @ 14:08
Comment from: Bob [Visitor]
Way to go Chris. Paula rocks. Michelle should go back to the amateur links until she can play.
Permalink 2005-07-29 @ 15:06
Comment from: Bob [Visitor]
Rob, where did you get your info..

Creamer earned US$375,000 for the win, moving her above the $1 million mark and into the No. 3 slot on the LPGA money list. She became the youngest and quickest player in LPGA Tour history to earn more then $1 million and also broke Karrie Webb's 1996 record for most money won by a player in her rookie season.
Permalink 2005-07-29 @ 15:17
Comment from: Kyle [Visitor]
Bob -you're a loser -get a job

And while you're at it -check out the leaderboard of the Women's British Open...

Paula finishes ahead of Michelle 2 times in the 7 times they've played in the same event, and all of a sudden she's just sooo much better...

Please...
Permalink 2005-07-29 @ 16:48
Comment from: Yogi [Visitor]
It ain't over 'til it's over!
Permalink 2005-07-29 @ 17:16
Comment from: Jim Coulthard [Visitor]
I noticed an anti-Wie bias in the commentary during the second round of the Women's British Open. The name Morgan Pressel was mentioned. It was said that winning a Junior event by 11 strokes could do a lot for a golfer's confidence. Well maybe Pressel did win a Junior by 11 strokes once--but what she did last week was lose in the third round of the US Junior Girls.
Morgan Pressel does not just win these Junior tournaments, she also loses some. Michelle is a year and a half younger than Morgan, but even so, winning 3 and losing 2 Junior Tournament this year does not sound like the kind of dominance which would carry over to anything more impressive than Michelle Wie's current pro record.
Permalink 2005-07-30 @ 02:39
Comment from: Jason [Visitor]
Chris, you must be related to the guy that runs this website since I see you're writing more crappy articles...

Forget your "journalistic" career--you really are mediocre at writing.

Time to get back to being the fry boy at McDonalds...

Permalink 2005-07-30 @ 11:28
Comment from: John [Visitor]
Hey Chris nobody is taking anything away from Paula. Your right, she is better than Michelle. For now! Let's not forget that Michelle is ONLY 15! You know this kind of criticism sounds so familiar. Oh that's right. That is the kind of stuff they said about Tiger Woods. Don't worry, I don't think it will be the last time Michelle is compared to Tiger.
Permalink 2005-07-30 @ 21:27
Comment from: Angela [Visitor]
Chris, you are really bringing down this website with your sub-par writing...are you some kind of charity case ?

Is that why they can't get rid of you ?
Permalink 2005-07-30 @ 23:41
Comment from: BOB MARTIN [Visitor]
WHOEVER IS IN CHARGE OF THE WOMEN'S BRITISH OPEN BLEW IT BIG TIME---THEY SHOULD HAVE PITTED CREAMER AND WIE HEAD UP---GUESS THEY WANTED SOMEONE TO FOLLOW THE OTHER PLAYERS---BUT WHAT A PR BLUNDER---WE ALL THINK IT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE BUT NO ONE CAN GUARANTEE THE FUTURE---WE CAN GUARANTEE,HOWEVER, THIS ONE HEAD TO HEAD GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE LPGA IS LOST FOREVER!!!
Permalink 2005-07-31 @ 01:13
Comment from: brad [Visitor]
Paula Creamer better than Michelle Wie now, will always be better than Wie?

How about "Jennifer Mario better than Chris Baldwin, will always be better than Chris Baldwin"?
Permalink 2005-07-31 @ 02:05
Comment from: dcb [Visitor]
Baldwin is absolutely right. This Asian, 6 foot 15 year old is a marketer/manager dream. They couldn't wait to thrust this youngster into the high pressure world of professional sports. Her parents should also be ashamed. It's sad to see the big company just waiting to see a breakthrough game. In a related topic, what happened to Phil Mickelson. Titleist was waiting for him to win a tournement before releasing the 905's. They finally just trickled out. Wei just lost her baby fat for pete's sake. I didn't see the article as Wie bashing. He was commenting on pushing a youngster who should maybe spend a year or so out of the spot light. Maybe Creamer supporting but hey, Creamer can do more than drive 270, she can win. Let's hope Wie doesn't join the likes of Kornikova because she does have the potential to bring the womens golf viewership above it's current plateau.
Permalink 2005-07-31 @ 12:32
Comment from: James [Visitor]
FINAL RESULTS FOR WOMEN'S BRITISH OPEN

WINNER JEONG JANG

2ND SOPHIE GUSTAFSON

3RD MICHELLE WIE !!!!!!!!


5TH ANNIKA SORENSTAM

15TH PAULA CREAMER (he he!!!)
Permalink 2005-07-31 @ 13:28
Comment from: Alias Gunadi [Visitor]
You really do not mean what you wrote about Michelle Wie. You wrote it to provoke reponses and thus make your column more interesting to readers. That's right isn't it? If so, then shame on you to try and profit by attacking a 15 yr old.
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