Paula Creamer better than Michelle Wie now, will always be better than Wie
While Michelle Wie’s endless defenders come up with more excuses for their no-win marketing machine, Paula Creamer continues to show why she’s the best young talent in women’s golf. It’s hard for Wie’s hype mongers to accept this because Creamer has actually earned her way to the trophy stand.
Then, you have Michelle Wie who is starting to make Susan Lucci’s old trophy drought look like child’s play.
The debate’s over people. Creamer destroyed Wie by eight strokes at the Evian Masters, one of the women’s golf biggest money events. And let’s drop that ridiculous argument that Wie’s finished ahead of Creamer in a few tournaments.
Finishing ahead of someone else but not coming close to winning yourself is as bad as “almost” making the cut. Here’s the facts. Creamer has two LPGA titles in her rookie year. Wie has none having played in more events than some 21-year-old seasoned pros.
Creamer has two significant tournament wins this year. Wie has none.
It’s all about winning. That’s the bottom line in sports. Creamer wins. Wie comes close, usually finding a way, any way, to mentally lose it.
Maybe, this is because Creamer’s parents actually encouraged their daughter to wait until she was 18 to become a virtual full-time pro (which Wie is at 15 no matter what her official status is). Maybe, it’s simply because Creamer is mentally tougher than Wie.
Who really knows why? The only thing that’s inarguable is that the bottom line does not lie.
Jennifer Mario and the rest of her Wie worshiping, ridiculous-facts-citing posse should take the time to get to know Paula Creamer’s story. Creamer has everything they desperately want Wie to have. She’s even less jaded and more open in interviews at 18 than Wie is at 15.
Maybe, that’s because Paula Creamer is actually a golf story. Michelle Wie is just a marketing one.
For the full story on Paula Creamer, who recently talked to TravelGolf.com, stay tuned to the sites. For the latest on Michelle Wie, just wait for more hype.
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No, you are just plain stupid and have some grudge against Michelle herslef, I presume.
Pathetic. Just pathetic. Bashing a 15 year olg girl for good reason as a full time job.
Why so much hating?
My guess, you were once dumped by a girl named Michelle and still recovering. Ha! Grow up, man. Just grow up.
Paula Creamer is three years older than Michelle Wie, and that is a pretty big gap in experience.
You have absolutely no basis for your argument unless you compare what they did at their respective ages.
If Michelle is Paula's age and still has not won anything then you you have a point .
If you compare what Michelle Wie has accomplished as a 15 year old and what Paula Creamer has done--its no contest at all. Michelle has achieved way much more .
I'm sure when you were 15 years old you have "mentally lost at things" (probably many times)--that's just how it is we do better when we know better.
Why don't you back up your blog with some facts--
Michelle has finished ahead of Paula in every tournament they played with the exception of the Evian Masters, and the last day of the Women's U.S. Open.
Paula has played in a LOT of tournaments since she has gone pro -she was bound to win a couple of times.
Michelle is still an amateur playing in a lot less tournaments over her summer vacation.
By the way, Annika Sorenstam was in the Top 5 on Day 3 of the Evian Masters, played badly on Day 4 and ended up 12th. She must not be mentally tough either by your estimation.
Michelle is a 15 year old girl-who has finished 2nd and 4th in women's majors, got to the quarterfinals of the Men's Pub Links, and has countless Top 20 finishes but you only choose to focus on the negative.
Guess what, they're not really negatives-SHE'S ONLY 15-the fact that she has accomplished all these things is nothing short of amazing.
Paula Creamer at 18 has NEVER even come in 2nd at a women's major and Michelle Wie has--and now she's going to be better than Michelle because she won 2 tournaments?
One of which (the Sybase) where Annika didn't even play?
You are one pathetic, emasculated man. Wow, jealous and vindictive of a 15 year old who has accomplished more in her 15 years than you have in your 30-40 years.
Honestly, your hatred of Michelle is a bit unnatural- I have my suspicions that you are a racist and sexist as well--which only adds to your sorry existence.
If Michelle Wie finishes ahead of Paula Creamer at the British Open---we want your balding, big toothed behind writing an article how much better Michelle Wie is than Paula Creamer and always will be.
Hmmm--when Paula was finishing behind Michelle all those times what exactly were you writing?
Fore. How do we know Michelle Wie has made a big impact on the LPGA Tour? She's already being ridiculed by the naysayers for "never having won anything."
When a 15-year-old is put in the same class with, say, Colin Montgomerie and Donovan McNabb, she's already won. Big.
You were asking for a scalding on this one... If you like Paula so much (which isn't a bad thing) why not just write about her, why add the diatribe about Wie...
They are both exceptional players and will both have places in the golf world for a long time to come...
Remember the old saying, which is as true today as it was when it was coined...
"If you don't have something good to say, say nothing at all"
You're probably just a dirty old man lusting after Paula Creamer!
Yes, Paula is hot right now and is playing some incredible golf, but to say that she will ALWAYS be better than michelle is simply riduculous.
I can't believe I just wasted 90 seconds of my life reading probably the most asinine article ever written.
I know you got beat up by 15 year old girls a lot when you were younger but don't take it out on Michelle !
Oh yeah Michelle is still 4-2 head to head against Paula---and still 3 years younger!!
You say their is not basis to prove her hype? Just look at the 3 PGA tournaments she has been in. Granted she was shots behind in the cut in the 2005 Sony Open, she missed her other two cuts by one and two strokes. How did Annika, the greatest female golfer of our time did, faired? She missed the cut by FOUR strokes. Even Annika did not come as close as Michelle did to making the cut, and yet Michelle is still only a hype.
No, let's NOT drop the fact that Wie in many of the events that she played with Creamer has finished AHEAD of her. Not just a "few" events as you have said, but in MOST of the events Michelle was ahead of Creamer. YES, AHEAD. If you can use Creamer's two wins, one of which Annika was not present, as an argument, I don't see why you can't take Michelle's other results into consideration. Also, since when does playing in a few LPGA events qualify as "virtual full-time pro." Need I remind you that she's on her summer vacation while doing this? For a person that makes a living writing about golf, you sure know a lot.
Had Michelle been a professional, she has been estimated to have made already $500,000-$600,000 in the SIX events she has played this year. Creamer, who has SIXTEEN tournaments under her belt this year, is making $1,000,000-$1,200,000. According to this, Michelle would have either likely earned at least as much as Creamer or, more likely, EXCEEDED Creamer's earnings. And yet, she is nothing but hype right?
Oh, wait. Did you realize that she is 15 while comparing her to 18 year-old Creamer? Let's see what Creamer accomplished at the age of 15 compared to Wie. Nothing. I needn't even list Wie's acheivements for a 15-year old, there'd be too many. Now at 15 she is comparatively equal or, as most would argue, better than 18 year-old Creamer. Wie is yet to be 18, we have yet to see her the extent of her talent as she completes part-time on tour. The reason for Michelle Wie's greatness is her age. No one, not even Tiger Woods or Annika Sorenstam, could build a resume quite as outstanding as Wie has at the age of 15. Your refusal, and those of naysayes, to take her age into account boggles me. Michelle Wie has won yet to win, but comparing her to Donovan Mcnabb is something. Phil Mickelson did not win a Major until last year, yet he is one of the best golf. Last I checked, Wie finished Second in two Majors this year and had the lead coming into the final round of the US Open. Once again, you're right. Michelle Wie is nothing but hype.
What makes your argument all the more ludicruos is your comparison to how both of them interview? Wait, I never realized how interviews went had anything to do with their game? But a writer of your great stature took such a thing into account. You have proven something you know. Your complete idiocy and lack of any talent as a writer. Even a highschool student, like Michelle Wie let's say, know that a good, even a satisfactory, essay needs to have sufficient evidence to back up claims. Yet, a writer like you didn't think interviewing was ridiculous evidence. No, let's just drop your ridiculous arguments and personal attack against Wie.
Chris--you must have really small balls...
I think you might have proven my point. Michelle Wie, as you've agreed, would probably, in estimates, be a greater golfer than Creamer if she turns pro. Fortunately, she has yet to be one and is still in highschool concentrating on her education. Don't get me wrong, Creamer is a great golfer. There is no doubt that these two young ladies would be great two watch as they compete against each other in the future. What Creamer and Wie has done for women's golf has been insurmountable. But to compare her to Michelle Wie, and so radically make such statements as saying Creamer will always be better is too early in the game and completely unfair. It's like comparing shoes to sneakers. They are similar but completely different. I have nothing against Creamer, in fact I like her. I'm just a bigger Michelle fan, I believe that both players have yet to show their full potential. I just disagree with many of the author's remarks.
I hope you didn't get paid more than a small bag of skittles for that P.O.S article.
Michelle is not only smarter than you, more talented than you, better looking than you, will be richer than you , she can even write a better column than you.
Actually my eight year old cousin could construct a better argument than that...
Dude-time to give up this writing thing and go back to living at your mom's garage.
Pathetic I think has already been said - I second it.
There are over 150 players on the LPGA tour right now that would kill for Wie's record in 2005.
To say that Wie's story isn't a golf story is just boneheaded ignorance. It's not as if Wie knocked Creamer off the front pages today, but finishing second in one of the biggest event in Europe is still a huge *golfing* achievement for any 15 year old.
Of course, it's way to much to expect, but why don't you be a man and admit you were wrong this time?
Michelle came in 2nd after starting miserably -if she didn't have that one bad day -who knows if she wouldn't have won this tournament. The fact that she saved what could have been a poor outing and got a Top 2 finish out of it is just amazing.
Michelle will have an extremely successful golf career for the next 30 or so years , and it gives me great pleasure to know that you will be downright miserable through all of it...
Understand this, Michelle Wie inspires other minority girls and boys just as Tiger Woods did earlier in the 20th century. Hate comes in all forms and to couch your comments on golfing qualifications is sick.
The British Open will be interesting to watch to see how these girls fair.
One thing is for sure its in with the new and out with the old as far as womens golf is concerned.
TV Ratings are rocketing and not because of Annika, 80% of it is due to the Big Weasy.
Paula Creamer will probably be the next Annika, she's awesome. But when Michelle Wie brings her mental act up to match her physical abilities, this writer better start liking the taste of his soles.
I can imagine Baldwins commentary now..."Not only is this 15 year old boy beating 3/4 of the MEN in every tournament he plays in, he's a darn good high school student with a 4.0 GPA...just wait until he figures out how to win!! Watch out Tiger!!!"
You must hate Michelle Wie a lot if you're willing to gamble on your credibility as a writer just to bash her.
Will anyone ever take you seriously again as a writer after what you just wrote? I highly doubt it.
You can never get your credibility back ,everytime Michelle Wie wins a tournament or Paula Creamer falters, you put yourself out there to look the fool. When you say that Creamer will "always be" better than Michelle, you denied yourself an out clause to go
" Oops, I made a mistake."
Not only do you have zero evidence to support what you're "reporting" , you let your emotions get the best of you and just totally looked like a major you-know-what. Unfortunately, it is on the internet and you just exposed your ignorance to thousands of people.
When I first read your diatribe, I thought it was written by some jealous 13 year old girl who hated all the attention Michelle was getting. How sad to see it was written by a full grown man.
Bob Martin-yeah your argument really makes sense since investment business has so much in common with golf...
Everyone else in the real world would rather depend on tangible evidence to form an opinion about something...
From everything I've seen and comparing their accomplishments at their respective ages --Michelle Wie is by far the more talented golfer with the larger potential.
Paula Creamer will be good, but not as good as Michelle.
Chris--all that Rogaine you're using has seeped into your brain !!
You got to quit smoking the crack too or your mom will kick you out of her basement.
How many LPGA tourneys did Creamer win at 15? NONE! I would hate to make a judgment on the entire career of two people when they are 18 and 15.
As you guys said- idiotic!
Surely these girls would hate all of this bickering, after all, they claim to like each other. I recall reading last summer that while flying to the UK to compete in the Curtis Cup, Paula and Michelle sat next to each other and talked the entire flight about their shared love for fashion.
So let's all calm down and agree to support both of them as they pursue their respective dreams, Paula's to make the US Solheim Team and become the best golfer in the LPGA and Michelle's to play in the Master's and make "Tiger money."
You go Girls!
It is useless to compare Michelle's career with any one else's. Unless every talented junior of the same age gets the best equipment, lessons with David Leadbetter, a pro caddie, the same number of LPGA/USGA sponsor's exemptions, on which to 'cut their teeth' there is no comparison.
But one thing is for certain, IF all talented teens were given this benefit package one of them would eventually win a pro event. After all, "even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while."
Gail-you don't sound too supportive of Michelle in your posts there...
Michelle is an extremely talented golfer and do you honestly think Paula Creamer doesn't have those advantages?
Do you know her family moved to Florida just so she can attend the Leadbetter Academy ? Do you have any idea all the top personal trainers, and mental toughness coaches she is going to. I'm from Florida so we know all about Paula Creamer here.
Paula actually has more advantages since she can play in tournaments on the mainland with better competition. Not to mention all she has to do is drive to most of the tournaments while Michelle has to fly.
Michelle has worked hard on her game, and it sucks you are belittling all the hard work she had done.
Chris + Gail + John D = IDIOT FOOLS
I would include John D - but he's probably some impotent old fool.
I'm not ripping Michelle, I'm just saying don't get so carried away with saying she has talent nobody else has and that the amazing assistance she has been provided hasn't contributed to where she it at this point. She's proven that she is a great talent, but there are others out there like her, perhaps some that would be performing on a similar level if they had those options and/or chose the path she has chosen (straight to playing the pros). We just don't know.
I'm very curious to see how she matures. I predict she will be a solid female golfer and will win a lot of LPGA tournaments. Anything beyond that is unlikely, but possible.
When Wie played in the John Deer Classic (PGA Tour event), the Golf Channel showed highlights of Wie for the first two days of the tourney. This frustrated me. I love golf, all golf. I want to see the leaderboard of the tournament, and maybe some great shots made by PGA Tour players. Nope, just Wie. I expected Wie highlights, not the Wie channel.
Mr. Baldwin, please use your press space to give Creamer (and the other worthy PGA/LGPA members) the attention she deserves without a Wie comparison. I'm sure most of the golf world won't read it, but I will.
Since everything you guys have written have been personal attacks--then yeah you're right you "really have no good argument"
John Hoffman --where was Paula Creamer's toughness when she finished behind Michelle all these years. Michelle is still ahead 4-2 head to head --yeah she has two wins but she's got an extra 3 years and an over 20 tournament experience over Michelle.
By the way- did Paula even come close to Michelle's success when she was 15 --absolutely not
She hasn't even finished as high as Michelle in a major and she's older with more experience.
How do you how much mental toughness Michelle will have in her life -she's only 15!
You were probably still wetting your bed then...
Michelle Wie will have won several tournaments and be adored by millions of fans around the world...
Chris Baldwin, if he still has a forum in which to write, will be known only as the idiot that humiliated himself by attacking Michelle Wie gratuitously three years earlier ...
John Hoffman (see above, the sleazebag who's knocking a 15 yr. old girl for her lack of "sex appeal")will still be a bitter loser working in his dirty cubicle...
Right on Claire, written like a true visionary. Imo, in golf the one quality most admired by me is the ability to hit the long ball. If you look at how far Annika and Michelle drive it, 280+ some of the courses nuffilies their greatest asset, the long ball, and you gotta let the big dog eat.
Wow, what an original name, how long did it take to think that one up. Probably just as long as it took to think up your entire post. By the way it's spelled "Kournikova"
But I have to disagree about their futures. Wie is going to be as dominant as Nicklaus & Tiger BUT will have many worthy challengers like Creamer, Pressel & maybe Ochoa - if she ever gets over those 18th hole demons. The only thing holding Wie back is her 15 year-old maturity. Remember that the way she is losing now is exactly the same thing that Tom Watson went through IN HIS EARLY 20's! He was actually labeled a choker until he learned how to win. When Wie finally crosses that threshhold, look out bexcause it's going to be something to see.
Chris--have you been fired yet ?
The reason for that is because, Michelle is only 15 years old... not 18 y.o. as Paula. The difference of 3 years in teenage is a very long time. How can you even think of comparing Michelle with Paula at this point in time? Why did you not wait until Michelle reaches the age of 18+ years and write your still "stupid" article... to be REALLY FAIR...
By the way Paula's career money winnings are a little skewed. Essentially everyone who finishes behind Michelle gets the money she couldn't earn because she is an amatuer. For example Paula got $36,000 more when she finished tied for third behind Michelle who finished second in the LPGA Championships. Keep the 36K Paula Michelle doesn't need it.
Some people are also blaming Ms. Wie's parents but you gotta understand that this is something that Ms. Wie WANTS to do. She isn't being forced. I wish more children (teens) have this attitude. Be the best you can be. Set high goals.
1) A Sorenstam ($149 G)
2) a)-M Wie ($88 G)
3) L Ochoa ($80 G)
4) P Creamer ($69 G)
5) C Kerr ($66 G)
6) M Baena ($53 G)
7) M Lee ($43 G)
8) C Kung ($43 G)
9) R Jones ($42 G)
10) N Gulbis ($41 G)
Michelle Wie (and Paula Creamer) are worthy players because they stuck their necks out and faced competition at levels above where most thought they belonged. Michelle is especially worthy of admiration...not only is she a better player than Tiger Woods was at 15 (I MEAN HEAD ON..STRAIGHT UP...PLAY 18)...she has the courage to lose and accept that it takes her farther down the road.
Is it just me...or is there something more to this simple minded antipathy I'm reading concerning Wie??
Maybe because Carlota Ciganda has played that course many times and it was Michelle's first time playing in that course.
Also, Annika is 1 over so is that other 15 year old better than Annika too ?
Or maybe it was because Michelle and Annika were playing during the worst part of the bad weather...
Its only Thursday --Geesh...
I didn't know grown up men like Bob , John, and Chris can act like such bitches !
Creamer earned US$375,000 for the win, moving her above the $1 million mark and into the No. 3 slot on the LPGA money list. She became the youngest and quickest player in LPGA Tour history to earn more then $1 million and also broke Karrie Webb's 1996 record for most money won by a player in her rookie season.
And while you're at it -check out the leaderboard of the Women's British Open...
Paula finishes ahead of Michelle 2 times in the 7 times they've played in the same event, and all of a sudden she's just sooo much better...
Morgan Pressel does not just win these Junior tournaments, she also loses some. Michelle is a year and a half younger than Morgan, but even so, winning 3 and losing 2 Junior Tournament this year does not sound like the kind of dominance which would carry over to anything more impressive than Michelle Wie's current pro record.
Forget your "journalistic" career--you really are mediocre at writing.
Time to get back to being the fry boy at McDonalds...
Is that why they can't get rid of you ?
How about "Jennifer Mario better than Chris Baldwin, will always be better than Chris Baldwin"?
WINNER JEONG JANG
2ND SOPHIE GUSTAFSON
3RD MICHELLE WIE !!!!!!!!
5TH ANNIKA SORENSTAM
15TH PAULA CREAMER (he he!!!)
Yes, that's the Curtis Cup. Where it was said Michelle and Paula talked about other stuff during their flight to England.
I just don't understand why she doesn't take the Tiger road, winning amateur tournaments. Get used to putting someone away.Finishing 15th over the 16th player or 3 over the 5th player means nothing. Put a tournament away---Win something before the HYPE.
The only thing I can see is that is her father is putting the HYPE there so she can turn Pro. the end of this year and get endorcements without winning a thing.
Paula Creamer and Brittany Lang are the real deal and Pressel may be also. I believe Wie will be also but why not wait until she is before the HYPE.
Granted only 15. And should get tougher. Playing 8 to 10 strokes back in the British Open and playing good is not pressure. Being one stroke back or one ahead is preasure.
I have coached Volleyball for 30 years and once in a while you get a girl as a frosh. 14 years old, who you can start on the varsity without making dumb mistakes.
Why?/ Because she has great athletic ability and had good training and played in earlier years and above all she has guts. All the play you can get against girls your same age does help.You had better believe it.
Because against those girls your same age you are expected to do good and you are measured against it.
If all you people are right that Wie should be playing against Lady Pros,and men and not against amateurs I guess we can eliminate all the junior and JV teams in every grade and High School.And only have one team. A Varsity Boys team that girls and boys play on. Would you like that.
Yoe are all going Wie balistic without looking at the whole picture. I think most of you have lost it.
We all know some day Wie will be winning some tournaments. So what.
Right now she is on the wrong path for a 15 year old to build her confidence and give her some pride. Her father should give her a break. Forget turning Pro for the buck. He is building a false Tiger in this girl that should be playing H. S. Golf and winning every match if she can.I have some doubts.
Both of these girls are rocking the LPGA and the sport! Creamer has set lofty goals and has really delivered the merchandise! It is silly to look at individual tournaments for comparisons since even the best of golfers have good rounds and bad ones, catch lucky breaks and unlucky ones! If you look at season's stats and performances though, these usually paint a fairly acurate picture... Paula is having a great rookie year regardless of her age!
Wie is also phenominal... she enters 6 LPGA events and choses the 4 majors among these... she likes going up against the best and while she still has many aspects of her game to work on (as do all atheletes at this level of competition)she has done extremely well. Like Creamer, she seems to have a great attitude and a real love for the game. Is there hype? Sure there is, welcome to the world of high level, fan friendly sports! Is the LPGA and golf in general cashing in on this new image... yes siree! Do individuals and their entourage try to cash in too... of course, atheletes who can earn big bucks for playing sports have been doing this for some time now!
Would Wie or Creamer learn more by having dominated less chalenging events? Whose to say but Ochoa and others have dominated other circuits and yet both Wie and Creamer can still beat them in LPGA tournaments so my guess is no. However if they had chosen these avenues it still would take years before someone could analyze the paths chosen and then they would not be able to compare (we will never know if it would be better for Wie to play a lot of junior events).
Has Wie won an LPGA event yet, no but she seems to be learning plenty and will undoubtedly win once she has enough tournament chances (with six big events this year she did have good finishes even if she never really threatened to win one... Creamer didn't win in her first six either... and other champions have needed many more)!
As far as spectacular and awe inspiring talent goes though... Wie does have that extra something to make most people (including her peers) take notice! While some great players have consistency and a wonderful feel for the game not many generate the attention that Wie does where people can't keep their eyes off them for fear of missing a unique shot that no one else seems able to deliver... pro sports are showbusiness and this girl has that superstar showbiz appeal!
Wie vs the men... she seems to have the type of game potentially that would allow her to compete whereas most of the other women could just hope to make the cut... the future will tell us if she can actually compete!
Keep on rockin!
Look at the results.
Wie is no2 in the world.
Play against kids her own age, a bit late for that me thinks. It's the last thing from her mind. There is nothing like playing against the best and that is exactly what she is doing.
Good on her.
Facts are facts, over the five top tournaments this year Michelle has finished on average in 11th position 1/2 a position behind Annika on 10.5 and 3.25 in front of Paula who has an average of 14.25.
This makes her the second best female player on the planet
So Michelle is not no2
She can't be ranked with the LPGA pro's because she is an amateur. She can't be ranked with amateurs because she only plays with professionals.
She is therefore insignificant in the world of golf. She must be playing in the twilight zone of golf.
Think again. No 2 all the way.
She could not hold a candle to the guts and play of Morgan Pressel.
Morgan who finished 2nd in the Women's Open is just waiting for Wie.
Both Morgan and Brittany Lang will take care of Wie big time. She is a punk trying to make a name to get some money when she turns Pro this year.
I do think the LPGA who turned down Pressel will let Wie on the tour before she is 18. Another crock of s**t.
That is right Wie, keep playing where you are not expected to win. Don't play with these amatuers, they may clean you clock.
Obviously you forgot to take your pills this morning, or you are Chris Baldwin's boyfriend....
Your girl Morgan Pressel choked big time last month she was 2 up with 3 holes to go in a Junior Girls Match Play tournament and lost!!
SHE LOST IN THE 3RD ROUND PLAYING 13 YEAR OLD GIRLS!!
Michelle has finished in the Top 3 of 4 PROFESSIONAL ladies tournaments! Why the hell does she have to waste time beating weak competition like Morgan Pressel.
Lang has accomplished even less than Morgan Pressel ...
Michelle Wie will be on David Letterman August 8 Monday
and Good Morning America the next morning Aug. 9 :)
comparing michelle wie with morgan pressel like trying to compare tiger woods with charles barkley(in golf).
michelle wie doesn't play those amateur tournaments purely out of respect for the likes of pressel. How bad would it look to get beat 10 and 8. just proves to show what a nice girl michelle is, doesn't want to upset anybody by embarrasing them.
No Michell. She chokes every time she is close like the John Deere.
Match play is tough. Pressel may not win the Women's amateur but she hit all fairways and greens today and only faultered on one hole. Eight birdies on the day. Michelle could not have done any better.
We will see when they are both on the tour. Michell will be great but Creamer, Pressel and Lang will be there also and get their share.
Too bad that she gets all the attention despite not even being the best amatuer (Morgan Pressell)
When will you have the guts to play where you belong and face the fact you may get beat and not live up to the HYPE.
Moegan Pressel equals the best 5 days of golf I have ever seen with the exception to Tiger.
Michelle has the Big Driver.
Michelle has the Drive to move outside of the LPGA Tee Box.
This is why She gets the Pics, the Clicks and the Excemption Ticks.
The one with the Biggest Endorsment Contracts WINS!!!
Deal with it.
Ten years from now we'll have our answer. If Wie is winning consistently that will put a cork in Tiger's "learn to win" theory. If Wie is playing in lots of mens events but not winning anything on either tour then we'll know she never learned how to close the deal.
I suspect she'll do well and five years from now we'll be seeing Pressel, Wie and Creamer all going head to head on the LPGA and Wie making a cut here and there on the mens tour (but she'll never get close to winning there - whole different game).
As to whether or not Michelle will be a greater golfer in 5 or 10 years, we will just have to wait and see.
Paula has risen to the challange -- perhaps in three years so will Michelle -- but as of now Paula is the better golfer.
The facts don't lie.
MICHELLE HAS NEVER EVEN FINISHED THAT LOW!!
That said these new crop of Creamer lang pressel and wie is making me a fan of the LPGA
It's the aspect of her having to earn her place in line as opposed to being given a free pass to the begining of the line that get's to some of us.
The PGA men know it, the LPGA women know it, the crowds that flock to the tournaments she plays in know it, why can't the two of you figure it out.
Simply put here is a smart, savy 15 year old who is about to make 10 million a year. All she wants to do is test herself against the best men and women golfers at the highest level possible.
Oh, by the way she's back at school for her junior year earning A's and learning Chinese and Japanese, she is already fluent in Korean.
I just hope she and her parents can guard against all the people who will want a piece of her.
Millionaires both and if I were gonna go out with either of them they'd better darn well pay!!!!
...and I bet I could beat the both of them at their own golf game provided they give me a 200 yard head strat
I seem to recall El Tiger missing his first eight cuts as a Pro and I am wondering if you know how many LPGA sanctioned events Wiezy has missed the cut during the last couple of years? I believe the number that comes to mind is ZERO.
I've got a C Note that says she leaves at least half of those 17 leading money winners behind this year.
Care to put your money where your mouth is Chrissy?
Michelle has real talent and potential to get to the top.
Anna had talent, but not to get to the very top like Michelle.
Where's my C-Note?!?!?
In my opinion, the major difference, and I watch these kids perform as often as I can, is something you can't teach, INTESTINAL FORTITUDE. She knows how to close the deal, she's very "tigeresque" in this regard, MW isn't. I've been around a long time coaching kids and you just know when a real Star shows up.I take nothing away from Michelle and her accomplishments,but Paula is the "Tiger" and Michelle is the "Phil".
An older golfers observation.
You'd better look over your shoulder, here comes MORGAN.
Note to media:
Back off on these kids....You're going to make them hate each other rather than be friendly rivals.
Another old golfer, John
It's like people just don't get it....the one with the most toys wins in the game of life....
Let's take a look at Greg Norman as an example....he's making $$$Millions from other aspects of golf than tournaments...take a look at his earnings from playing....come on, are you going to call Greg a loser????
Jeeeeeeeez, Chris, it's like you and the others just don't get it!
There's a number of exciting young players attracting a larger audience to golf whch means a lot more $$$ to the industry...Paula Creamer's an addition to the scene...
Gotta give it to Michelle though....for never SHOOTING OFF HER MOUTH... :)
That's one classy young lady....I don't care if she never wins a tournament....But I wouldn't mind making the $$$ she does!
Attacking Wie's mental toughness at this stage in her career is a joke. If you can finish in the top ten in any LPGA event as she has done then it is obvious that she does have the necessary mental toughness to compete.
I think both of these young ladies are fascinating golf stories and both should prove to be great marketing opportunities for the LPGA and any sponsors smart enough to sign either of these women. Just look at Anna Kournakova in the Tennis world. She was in the top 20 when she first came up but was a bust for most of her career. However, ESPN loved showing highlights of her despite her all too often 1st round eliminations from most tournaments. These two ladies have the talent and the looks that will be a big cash cow for them both.
The thing that bugged me was her trying to golf with the men.
Stay in your league please.
is not even listed on the lpga. She is
not on the money list stats ect it's
like she does not exist.
Anyone that has ever played competitive golf at any level knows that from going from good to competitive to winning is a progression, the men’s satellite tours are filled with PGA talent but only few players that are ready to compete and fewer yet that are ready to win. I believe this is why so many people are so frustrated with the path that Michele Wie’s handlers have chosen for her.
Allowing such a magnificent talent to become a sideshow act attempting to make cuts (not win, not compete, just make cuts) at minor PGA events rather than grooming her to win significant women’s events is doing her a disservice and harming the advancement of women’s sports. I think Michele Wie may not fully appreciate the USGA Junior, and USGA Armature void in her resume now but with every passing winning opportunity lost it becomes more clear that this strategy when measured against history was a mistake.
Make no mistake she is a great player and will win her share of tournaments in the future, if she does not burn out before learning how to win. Her path has earned her great wealth sooner than the path I would have chosen but I can’t help thinking about how much the USGA Championships, European Champions, and NCAA Championships have contributed to all of the great champions in history and how this has been taken away from her in pursuit of a sports model payday.
Rolex Rankings only affect one tournament, they don’t seed players every Thursday so that is of little consequence to anyone outside of the press, what is important is incorporating Michele Wie into the mainstream LPGA quickly so she can learn to win and contribute to moving that Tour closer to the Men’s Tour in status and popularity. This may be a watershed moment for the LPGA with great established champions and the best group of young pros that the sport has ever seen………….the question is whether Michele want to help lead this progress or just profit from the efforts of today’s LPGA leaders.
Paula Creamer is class and skill, and I don't even like golf that much, and can see that! She is a real gem, in that so many female athletes tell you how good they are, and how good they'd be against men: Sure, we're threatened by assertive females, but Paula Creamer is one young lady who makes me look forward to seeing her compete against men, because she'll
E A R N her chance at a no-crutch legitimate PGA try, not whine and bitch for a handicapped attempt! GO PAULA!!!!
Alot of kids want to go up against the bigger and better players in all sports. But it takes PARENTS to help them make decisions about when they should. Michelle's parents have their daughter marketed to make money in endorsements, not winning golf. Her playing in PGA tournements is now officially a JOKE, period. No matter how you spin it. And yes, she is taking spots away from people who are playing for their livelyhood. She is playing for the cameras, her sponsers. When you are the one who did not get a call for a spot because they want a 16-year old girl who periodically plays well in some womens tournements instead, you would understand the other side of the coin.
I think she is a great talent and could be a power some day on the womens tour. She will never be a power on the mens tour no matter how much you want her to.
Paula's parents were looking out for her. Unfortunately I think Michelle's parents were looking at Michelle and saw $$$$$$(No, I don't think they are exploiting her on purpose, BUT..). It is hard to say no to cash dangling in your face but as a parent you must step in and be one.
I go to the big top to see the circus. I don't go to golf tournements to see one.
This is what it is becoming and in the end that is sad for her and only her!
fake and elbow injury, too save face. enough
said!!!That shows michelle wies heart and
charactor.Paula Creamer is better now and
will have a better career.Maybe in 10 yrs.
all the idiots can pull a wie and fake a head
injury why they were wrong.
Hmmm...I guess getting $10,000,000 per year is not a big deal for Michelle.
Ask the board members of Sony & Nike about it won't kill anyone
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