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Comment from: John D [Visitor]
Right On !!!!
2005-07-24 @ 05:54
Comment from: June [Visitor]
I thought you are against the hype machine working on Michelle.

No, you are just plain stupid and have some grudge against Michelle herslef, I presume.

Pathetic. Just pathetic. Bashing a 15 year olg girl for good reason as a full time job.

Why so much hating?

My guess, you were once dumped by a girl named Michelle and still recovering. Ha! Grow up, man. Just grow up.
2005-07-24 @ 06:08
Comment from: Jen [Visitor]
This is an awful article. How can you, in the right mind bash a 15 year old girl? Michelle Wie did not ask for all of this media attention, the attention came to her. She simply shows up and plays golf and listens to what her parents tell her to do (which is what all 15 year olds should do). I commend Wie for putting up with all of the critics when she should be commended for trying her best in every game.
2005-07-24 @ 07:27
Comment from: Cheryl [Visitor]
That is probably the most idiotic thing I've ever read.

Paula Creamer is three years older than Michelle Wie, and that is a pretty big gap in experience.

You have absolutely no basis for your argument unless you compare what they did at their respective ages.
If Michelle is Paula's age and still has not won anything then you you have a point .
If you compare what Michelle Wie has accomplished as a 15 year old and what Paula Creamer has done--its no contest at all. Michelle has achieved way much more .

I'm sure when you were 15 years old you have "mentally lost at things" (probably many times)--that's just how it is we do better when we know better.

Why don't you back up your blog with some facts--
Michelle has finished ahead of Paula in every tournament they played with the exception of the Evian Masters, and the last day of the Women's U.S. Open.

Paula has played in a LOT of tournaments since she has gone pro -she was bound to win a couple of times.
Michelle is still an amateur playing in a lot less tournaments over her summer vacation.

By the way, Annika Sorenstam was in the Top 5 on Day 3 of the Evian Masters, played badly on Day 4 and ended up 12th. She must not be mentally tough either by your estimation.

Michelle is a 15 year old girl-who has finished 2nd and 4th in women's majors, got to the quarterfinals of the Men's Pub Links, and has countless Top 20 finishes but you only choose to focus on the negative.

Guess what, they're not really negatives-SHE'S ONLY 15-the fact that she has accomplished all these things is nothing short of amazing.

Paula Creamer at 18 has NEVER even come in 2nd at a women's major and Michelle Wie has--and now she's going to be better than Michelle because she won 2 tournaments?
One of which (the Sybase) where Annika didn't even play?

You are one pathetic, emasculated man. Wow, jealous and vindictive of a 15 year old who has accomplished more in her 15 years than you have in your 30-40 years.

Honestly, your hatred of Michelle is a bit unnatural- I have my suspicions that you are a racist and sexist as well--which only adds to your sorry existence.
2005-07-24 @ 09:11
Comment from: andy [Visitor]
Remind me. How did Paula Creamer do in the Evian Masters when she was 15?
2005-07-24 @ 09:14
Comment from: Kyle [Visitor]

If Michelle Wie finishes ahead of Paula Creamer at the British Open---we want your balding, big toothed behind writing an article how much better Michelle Wie is than Paula Creamer and always will be.

Hmmm--when Paula was finishing behind Michelle all those times what exactly were you writing?

2005-07-24 @ 09:20
Comment from: Karen [Visitor]
From a REAL writer Don McKee from the Philadelphia Inquirer

Fore. How do we know Michelle Wie has made a big impact on the LPGA Tour? She's already being ridiculed by the naysayers for "never having won anything."

When a 15-year-old is put in the same class with, say, Colin Montgomerie and Donovan McNabb, she's already won. Big.
2005-07-24 @ 09:25
Comment from: Paul [Visitor]
Chris, Chris, Chris...

You were asking for a scalding on this one... If you like Paula so much (which isn't a bad thing) why not just write about her, why add the diatribe about Wie...

They are both exceptional players and will both have places in the golf world for a long time to come...

Remember the old saying, which is as true today as it was when it was coined...

"If you don't have something good to say, say nothing at all"
2005-07-24 @ 09:54
Comment from: Melissa [Visitor]


You're probably just a dirty old man lusting after Paula Creamer!





2005-07-24 @ 10:01
Comment from: Leonard [Visitor]
Michelle is a great talent and she is playing at an incredible level for a young girl. I wonder what type of player will be come when she goes pro. Will she be dominant like Tiger or Annika or just be another great talent that can win the big one? With all her talent, she hasn't learned how to win. Take a look at Tiger, 6 straight US amateurs, including the Jr. Amateurs. When he came out on tour WE KNEW HE WOULD DOMINATE. I can't say the same for Michelle. I want her to learn how to win by playing on the junior circuit and when she truly is ready to enter the big stage, I'll be watching the boob toob enjoying the ride.
2005-07-24 @ 10:01
Comment from: AkamaiOkole [Visitor]
You are an idiot. Granted, Paula Creamer is an incredible talent. So is Michelle. Given that Paula is 3 years older than Michelle, (a LONG time at those young ages), it stands to reason that Paula would have a slight increase in maturity. None of this justifies a page long bashing of Michelle. Yeah, she has won anything at the pro level yet, but i guess 3 2nd-places -- including one in a major -- in 6 events doesnt mean jack to you. Michelle lost 2 of those to golfers who were hot and blew away the field -- Michelle happened to beat EVERYONE ELSE.

Yes, Paula is hot right now and is playing some incredible golf, but to say that she will ALWAYS be better than michelle is simply riduculous.

2005-07-24 @ 10:16
Comment from: Peter [Visitor]
Chris, PLEASE tell me you're not getting paid to write that crap!

I can't believe I just wasted 90 seconds of my life reading probably the most asinine article ever written.

I know you got beat up by 15 year old girls a lot when you were younger but don't take it out on Michelle !

Oh yeah Michelle is still 4-2 head to head against Paula---and still 3 years younger!!
2005-07-24 @ 10:36
Comment from: Ann [Visitor]
Needless to say you have little to no material to back your statement. Creamer has won two tournaments her rookie year, she is a great golfer. But to compare her to Wie and state that she far surpasses Wie BECAUSE of these two wins, proves your lack of understanding the hype that is Michelle Wie. I take that back, Michelle Wie is NOT just a "hype" the media makes her to be, she is the real deal.

You say their is not basis to prove her hype? Just look at the 3 PGA tournaments she has been in. Granted she was shots behind in the cut in the 2005 Sony Open, she missed her other two cuts by one and two strokes. How did Annika, the greatest female golfer of our time did, faired? She missed the cut by FOUR strokes. Even Annika did not come as close as Michelle did to making the cut, and yet Michelle is still only a hype.

No, let's NOT drop the fact that Wie in many of the events that she played with Creamer has finished AHEAD of her. Not just a "few" events as you have said, but in MOST of the events Michelle was ahead of Creamer. YES, AHEAD. If you can use Creamer's two wins, one of which Annika was not present, as an argument, I don't see why you can't take Michelle's other results into consideration. Also, since when does playing in a few LPGA events qualify as "virtual full-time pro." Need I remind you that she's on her summer vacation while doing this? For a person that makes a living writing about golf, you sure know a lot.

Had Michelle been a professional, she has been estimated to have made already $500,000-$600,000 in the SIX events she has played this year. Creamer, who has SIXTEEN tournaments under her belt this year, is making $1,000,000-$1,200,000. According to this, Michelle would have either likely earned at least as much as Creamer or, more likely, EXCEEDED Creamer's earnings. And yet, she is nothing but hype right?

Oh, wait. Did you realize that she is 15 while comparing her to 18 year-old Creamer? Let's see what Creamer accomplished at the age of 15 compared to Wie. Nothing. I needn't even list Wie's acheivements for a 15-year old, there'd be too many. Now at 15 she is comparatively equal or, as most would argue, better than 18 year-old Creamer. Wie is yet to be 18, we have yet to see her the extent of her talent as she completes part-time on tour. The reason for Michelle Wie's greatness is her age. No one, not even Tiger Woods or Annika Sorenstam, could build a resume quite as outstanding as Wie has at the age of 15. Your refusal, and those of naysayes, to take her age into account boggles me. Michelle Wie has won yet to win, but comparing her to Donovan Mcnabb is something. Phil Mickelson did not win a Major until last year, yet he is one of the best golf. Last I checked, Wie finished Second in two Majors this year and had the lead coming into the final round of the US Open. Once again, you're right. Michelle Wie is nothing but hype.

What makes your argument all the more ludicruos is your comparison to how both of them interview? Wait, I never realized how interviews went had anything to do with their game? But a writer of your great stature took such a thing into account. You have proven something you know. Your complete idiocy and lack of any talent as a writer. Even a highschool student, like Michelle Wie let's say, know that a good, even a satisfactory, essay needs to have sufficient evidence to back up claims. Yet, a writer like you didn't think interviewing was ridiculous evidence. No, let's just drop your ridiculous arguments and personal attack against Wie.

2005-07-24 @ 10:42
Comment from: Josh [Visitor]
Paula better win as much as she can now, because as soon as Michelle turns pro -its all over for everyone else!

Chris--you must have really small balls...
2005-07-24 @ 10:56
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
Ann - Had Michelle been a professional, she has been estimated to have made already $500,000-$600,000 in the SIX events she has played this year. Creamer, who has SIXTEEN tournaments under her belt this year, is making $1,000,000-$1,200,000. According to this, Michelle would have either likely earned at least as much as Creamer or, more likely, EXCEEDED Creamer's earnings. And yet, she is nothing but hype right? FACT: Wie has won nothing - NADA, ZERO, ZILCH ! ! So all she has is an estimate of what she MAY have earned IF she was PRO.
2005-07-24 @ 11:46
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
Oh, I forgot - THINK PINK ! ! !
2005-07-24 @ 11:51
Comment from: Eugene [Visitor]
The author of this article is gutless and pathetic. Find something better to do that bash a young, teenage girl - one who is not a full time golfer and will starting the school year in the fall.
2005-07-24 @ 12:13
Comment from: Ann [Visitor]
To John D.

I think you might have proven my point. Michelle Wie, as you've agreed, would probably, in estimates, be a greater golfer than Creamer if she turns pro. Fortunately, she has yet to be one and is still in highschool concentrating on her education. Don't get me wrong, Creamer is a great golfer. There is no doubt that these two young ladies would be great two watch as they compete against each other in the future. What Creamer and Wie has done for women's golf has been insurmountable. But to compare her to Michelle Wie, and so radically make such statements as saying Creamer will always be better is too early in the game and completely unfair. It's like comparing shoes to sneakers. They are similar but completely different. I have nothing against Creamer, in fact I like her. I'm just a bigger Michelle fan, I believe that both players have yet to show their full potential. I just disagree with many of the author's remarks.
2005-07-24 @ 12:32
Comment from: SYS [Visitor]
Okay, so the verdict is in: You ARE an idiot.



2005-07-24 @ 12:50
Comment from: Christopher [Visitor]

I hope you didn't get paid more than a small bag of skittles for that P.O.S article.

Michelle is not only smarter than you, more talented than you, better looking than you, will be richer than you , she can even write a better column than you.

Actually my eight year old cousin could construct a better argument than that...

Dude-time to give up this writing thing and go back to living at your mom's garage.
2005-07-24 @ 13:18
Comment from: John [Visitor]
I was going to write a rebuttal but seems others have already and quite emphatically. Clearly, you are an envious mean-spirited hack who probably can't shoot below 95.
Pathetic I think has already been said - I second it.
2005-07-24 @ 14:20
Comment from: Paul [Visitor]
What a pathetically weak premise and foundation. While Creamer may be at a higher level right now than Wie, the idea that it proves she is better and always will be is unfounded. You talk about her being tougher mentally and how she has won two significant tournaments, while only as an aside mentioning that she is 18 to Wie's 15. Of course she is mentally tougher and more possibly more advanced, she has had 3 more years to develop. Given 3 more years, I'd find it very surprising to find Michelle Win with ONLY two significant wins by the time she is 18. Next time, please put more thought into your premise / comparison and more substantiation into your arguement.
2005-07-24 @ 14:48
Comment from: mm [Visitor]
Paula Creamer won 2 tournaments, Michelle Wie came in 2nd on 3. To say Creamer will always be better than Wie?..nobody knows the answer...only time will tell. I feel Michelle Wie already has the game to compete with professionals, men & women. All she needs is to be strong mentally & that will come with experience which will take time. Wie has said herself, she's in no rush & has all the time in the world. Not sure why people expect a 15 year old to win every tournament she enters. Is Wie all hype? I don't think so. All I know is this, before Michelle Wie, I had no interest in watching Golf, knew nothing about the game, thought it was a boring. So why do I watch it now? One, I want to see a local girl do good (I'm also from Hawaii) & two, I admire her attitude & determination to be the best she can be. And to achieve her goal, she plays with men too. I also compete with men & understand where Wie is coming from. I rather lose to a higher level man, learn & get more knowledge than kick another woman's ass & gain nothing. All around, Wie is giving Golf more exposure by all this attention, the LPGA & PGA will benefit from it for sure & make more fans like me, who before, didn't know what birdies, pars, bogeys, meant.
2005-07-24 @ 14:54
Comment from: Mike [Visitor]
Hype - I don't think so. Wie is already, at 15, one of the world's top 10 female golfers.

There are over 150 players on the LPGA tour right now that would kill for Wie's record in 2005.

To say that Wie's story isn't a golf story is just boneheaded ignorance. It's not as if Wie knocked Creamer off the front pages today, but finishing second in one of the biggest event in Europe is still a huge *golfing* achievement for any 15 year old.

Of course, it's way to much to expect, but why don't you be a man and admit you were wrong this time?
2005-07-24 @ 15:52
Comment from: Corinne [Visitor]


Michelle came in 2nd after starting miserably -if she didn't have that one bad day -who knows if she wouldn't have won this tournament. The fact that she saved what could have been a poor outing and got a Top 2 finish out of it is just amazing.

Michelle will have an extremely successful golf career for the next 30 or so years , and it gives me great pleasure to know that you will be downright miserable through all of it...
2005-07-24 @ 16:17
Comment from: Heywood Jablowme [Visitor]
may be this guy is the disgnated Michelle-basher so that this website gets lots of hits as it has...
2005-07-24 @ 16:41
Comment from: Mike [Visitor]
Chris Baldwin, Don't try to create chaos and negativity where there is none. Paula Creamer is a class act and a true champion and DOES NOT NEED YOUR IDIOTIC COMMENTS to support her cause, her outstanding play is enough to do that! I won't comment on the mindless dribble of a column that you wrote because I wasted enough time reading it. By the way....are YOU OLD ENOUGH to play the game of journalism? Take some of your own advice and go back to PJA qualifying school! (PJA - Professional Journalism Association)
2005-07-24 @ 20:12
Comment from: Stephen [Visitor]
Chris Baldwin, you're a hell bent on writing almost anything against a young and talented golfer, Michelle Wie or everything to do with her. You are a nightmare of man with a small and bigoted mind. As to the other sad guy on this posting that cackles with glee screeching against Wie, you too make another example of bad gene pool.

Understand this, Michelle Wie inspires other minority girls and boys just as Tiger Woods did earlier in the 20th century. Hate comes in all forms and to couch your comments on golfing qualifications is sick.
2005-07-24 @ 20:39
Comment from: alan [Visitor]
Well Chris you cetainly achieved what you set out to do when writing this article. The response has been quite outstanding, all in favour of Wie and rubbishing your opinion. I know that you don't really believe what you have written, you couldn't be that stupid.
The British Open will be interesting to watch to see how these girls fair.
One thing is for sure its in with the new and out with the old as far as womens golf is concerned.
TV Ratings are rocketing and not because of Annika, 80% of it is due to the Big Weasy.
Alan



2005-07-24 @ 21:57
Comment from: Lilian Too [Visitor]
The only reason many people actually even bother to find out to follow and find out the results of "some" LPGA events is precisely because Michelle Wie plays in them. So dont deny that you actually know she's got the ability to amaze us with her golfing prowess.

Paula Creamer will probably be the next Annika, she's awesome. But when Michelle Wie brings her mental act up to match her physical abilities, this writer better start liking the taste of his soles.
2005-07-24 @ 22:43
Comment from: Bill Donnelly [Visitor]
In the tournament following her initial win, if I recall correctly, Creamer placed 62d. How does that fit with your comparison. You also didn't mention that Michelle attends the top private high school in Honolulu, whereas Creamer moved to Florida to concentrate on learning and practicing golf.
WILDONHI
2005-07-24 @ 22:52
Comment from: roy brown [Visitor]
I was wondering how much Chris Baldwin would be worshiping a 15 year old boy playing on the PGA tour and having the same results as Michelle Wie is having on the LPGA?

I can imagine Baldwins commentary now..."Not only is this 15 year old boy beating 3/4 of the MEN in every tournament he plays in, he's a darn good high school student with a 4.0 GPA...just wait until he figures out how to win!! Watch out Tiger!!!"
2005-07-24 @ 22:58
Comment from: BOB MARTIN [Visitor]
AFTER HAVING BEEN IN THE INVESTMENT BUSINESS FOR OVER FORTY YEARS I LEARNED (THE HARD WAY) THERE IS ONE INFALLIBLE RULE THAT HAS PROVED UNASSAILABE AGAINST THE TEST OF TIME.-----THE MAJORITY OPINIAN IS ALWAYS WRONG WHEN PREDICTING THE FUTURE. LOOKING OVER THE EMAIL RESPONSES TO YOUR ARTICLE WIE VS CREAMER IT IS AS CLOSE TO A SURE BET AS ONE CAN GET THAT YOU ARE UNEQUIVICABLY CORRECT. CREAMER WILL DOMINATE WIE! BOB
2005-07-24 @ 23:20
Comment from: kuchkuch [Visitor]
I think the whole point of this article is create a buzz so as to get more hits, otherwise who in their right mind would be stupid enough to right such a garbage.
2005-07-24 @ 23:30
Comment from: Kevin [Visitor]

You must hate Michelle Wie a lot if you're willing to gamble on your credibility as a writer just to bash her.

Will anyone ever take you seriously again as a writer after what you just wrote? I highly doubt it.

You can never get your credibility back ,everytime Michelle Wie wins a tournament or Paula Creamer falters, you put yourself out there to look the fool. When you say that Creamer will "always be" better than Michelle, you denied yourself an out clause to go
" Oops, I made a mistake."
Not only do you have zero evidence to support what you're "reporting" , you let your emotions get the best of you and just totally looked like a major you-know-what. Unfortunately, it is on the internet and you just exposed your ignorance to thousands of people.

When I first read your diatribe, I thought it was written by some jealous 13 year old girl who hated all the attention Michelle was getting. How sad to see it was written by a full grown man.
2005-07-24 @ 23:30
Comment from: Peter [Visitor]

Bob Martin-yeah your argument really makes sense since investment business has so much in common with golf...

Everyone else in the real world would rather depend on tangible evidence to form an opinion about something...

From everything I've seen and comparing their accomplishments at their respective ages --Michelle Wie is by far the more talented golfer with the larger potential.

Paula Creamer will be good, but not as good as Michelle.
2005-07-24 @ 23:36
Comment from: Mario [Visitor]

Chris--all that Rogaine you're using has seeped into your brain !!

You got to quit smoking the crack too or your mom will kick you out of her basement.
2005-07-24 @ 23:41
Comment from: Andrew McLean [Visitor]
Again, what did Paula come in the Evian masters when she was 15. As well, Michelle came second beating some of the best golfers in the world, including Sorenstam. Let's see how many tournaments, Michelle has won when she is 18. Pffft, you just write this crap so people talk on your blog.
2005-07-25 @ 00:03
Comment from: B Coffey [Visitor]
It seems I hear Vijay Singh always complaining that the press mentions Tiger losing to him instead of him beating Tiger. Funny how they always mention Tiger. (: miss Wie, you made it.
2005-07-25 @ 01:43
Comment from: Peter [Visitor]
Obviously the guy lacks the intelligence and ability to write a persuasive and thought provoking column and must resort to ludicrous assertions to gain any kind of attention. As the numerous rebuttals display the ease at poking holes in his argument. Do we have to put up with the rantings of some half-wit? I won't and will avoid this site in the future.
2005-07-25 @ 03:08
Comment from: John [Visitor]
What were you doing when you were 15? Spanking your monkey and practicing keystrokes? Get a life. Michelle's potential is enormous and barely tapped. She's got a jackhammer swing and she only needs to turn her short game and clutch putts up a notch, period. Oh yeah, and maybe get a driver's license.
2005-07-25 @ 11:43
Comment from: Lynn [Visitor]
I watched both play in the US Women's Open at Cherry Hills this year. Creamer IS better than Wie- for now. However, as many of you pointed out, it's comparing apples to oranges. Creamer is 18- Wie is 15 (almost 16).

How many LPGA tourneys did Creamer win at 15? NONE! I would hate to make a judgment on the entire career of two people when they are 18 and 15.

As you guys said- idiotic!
2005-07-25 @ 11:54
Comment from: Gail [Visitor]
Whoa, whoa, whoa, ladies and gentlemen can we please take off the boxing gloves? There is no reason we cannot love both of these young, talented players; as they are deserving of nothing less.

Surely these girls would hate all of this bickering, after all, they claim to like each other. I recall reading last summer that while flying to the UK to compete in the Curtis Cup, Paula and Michelle sat next to each other and talked the entire flight about their shared love for fashion.

So let's all calm down and agree to support both of them as they pursue their respective dreams, Paula's to make the US Solheim Team and become the best golfer in the LPGA and Michelle's to play in the Master's and make "Tiger money."

You go Girls!
2005-07-25 @ 15:03
Comment from: Gail [Visitor]
Oh, and one more thing....

It is useless to compare Michelle's career with any one else's. Unless every talented junior of the same age gets the best equipment, lessons with David Leadbetter, a pro caddie, the same number of LPGA/USGA sponsor's exemptions, on which to 'cut their teeth' there is no comparison.

But one thing is for certain, IF all talented teens were given this benefit package one of them would eventually win a pro event. After all, "even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while."
2005-07-25 @ 15:09
Comment from: Holstein Nine [Visitor]
Ppphhh! What a loser you are!!!
2005-07-25 @ 15:53
Comment from: Rex [Visitor]
Paula and Michelle really are friends, based primarily on their shared Curtis Cup experiences. And Paula will be the first to tell you that she plays against the course; not against another player. These comparisons are not really fair to either player at this point, and only time will tell. The amazing thing about Paula, first voiced by one of the AJGA officers several years ago, is that Paula continues to improve year after year. After winning most of the Northern California junior golf tournaments at the age of 11, she started playing in AJGA tournaments, and slowly worked her way up the rankings, into the top 20, then the top 10, and then #1. Then she started to play in the women's amateur events, along with three LPGA events in 2003. Last year she played exclusively in women's amateur events plus she scheduled herself (with eager and cooperating sponsor's exemptions) into 5 tournaments (mostly LPGA) in a row to get a feel for what life would be like on the tour. She knew whe wanted to go pro, but two things happened to clinch it. First, various college coaches (Duke, Stanford, Arizona) told her that they really didn't have anything to offer to add to her game, and second, she medaled at the LPGA Q-school in December (as an amateur). So, she turned pro. She started off slowly, and then gained steam. She is really on a roll now! Michelle is taking a really different career path (avoiding junior golf altogether), so it will be interesting to see if she continues to improve at the same rate as Paula is. Only time will tell.
2005-07-25 @ 16:57
Comment from: Corinne [Visitor]

Gail-you don't sound too supportive of Michelle in your posts there...

Michelle is an extremely talented golfer and do you honestly think Paula Creamer doesn't have those advantages?

Do you know her family moved to Florida just so she can attend the Leadbetter Academy ? Do you have any idea all the top personal trainers, and mental toughness coaches she is going to. I'm from Florida so we know all about Paula Creamer here.

Paula actually has more advantages since she can play in tournaments on the mainland with better competition. Not to mention all she has to do is drive to most of the tournaments while Michelle has to fly.

Michelle has worked hard on her game, and it sucks you are belittling all the hard work she had done.
2005-07-25 @ 18:28
Comment from: Paul [Visitor]
I don't like comparing the two players and neither do they. Paula is putting the Records in the Records Book and if Wie wants to go after them they are there for the taking. All Paula is doing is breaking the records that were there before she came on the scene, not looking to compete against "only" Michelle.
2005-07-25 @ 19:03
Comment from: Blake [Visitor]
Uhh Gail- sorry, you don't know what you're talking about. All the Leadbetter private lessons, latest and greatest equipment, and most experience pro caddies won't make any aspiring young golfer a world class player. Takes talent for that.
2005-07-25 @ 23:39
Comment from: Shayne [Visitor]

Chris + Gail + John D = IDIOT FOOLS
2005-07-25 @ 23:57
Comment from: Dave [Visitor]
I hope Chris and Gail don't ever meet and have kids together or we'll have to deal with the dumbest child ever born.

I would include John D - but he's probably some impotent old fool.
2005-07-26 @ 00:00
Comment from: Claire [Visitor]
Get a life Chris. Michelle is a 15 yrs old kid who has a tremendous amount of talent. Why so harsh on her? What did u accomplish when you were 15? Nada!

2005-07-26 @ 02:37
Comment from: Arnie [Visitor]
Don't rip on Gail; what she said is somewhat true. I agree Michelle Wie is an amazing talent for her age. But there is no way she is near the top amateur golfer in the country. She hasn't even proven she's the best female amateur at this point, much less the best when you include the men. There are literally hundreds, maybe thousands, of men who have the game she has and surely many, many college male players who have her game or better. Didn't some no name from Utah smoke her in the APL and some teenage girl beat her last year?

I'm not ripping Michelle, I'm just saying don't get so carried away with saying she has talent nobody else has and that the amazing assistance she has been provided hasn't contributed to where she it at this point. She's proven that she is a great talent, but there are others out there like her, perhaps some that would be performing on a similar level if they had those options and/or chose the path she has chosen (straight to playing the pros). We just don't know.

I'm very curious to see how she matures. I predict she will be a solid female golfer and will win a lot of LPGA tournaments. Anything beyond that is unlikely, but possible.
2005-07-26 @ 11:40
Comment from: MO [Visitor]
I'm interpreting the author's gripe as "Wie gets too much attention just because she is 15". Creamer is winning, is 9th in the Solhiem Cup rankings, and easily rookie of the year, and yet virtually no press. This goes for every other LPGA touring pro, 15 or not. Annika who?

When Wie played in the John Deer Classic (PGA Tour event), the Golf Channel showed highlights of Wie for the first two days of the tourney. This frustrated me. I love golf, all golf. I want to see the leaderboard of the tournament, and maybe some great shots made by PGA Tour players. Nope, just Wie. I expected Wie highlights, not the Wie channel.

Mr. Baldwin, please use your press space to give Creamer (and the other worthy PGA/LGPA members) the attention she deserves without a Wie comparison. I'm sure most of the golf world won't read it, but I will.
2005-07-26 @ 19:37
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
Good job Chris. You know when they personally attack back, you have made your point and they really have no good argument. You know Wie has NOT won. They know Wie has not won. Differnce is, they can't admit it.
2005-07-26 @ 21:35
Comment from: fred [Visitor]
Chris you must be related to that other idiot, Alec Baldwin. Michelle has created so much interest in the LPGA and the Amateur events unlike any other female golfer. I predict the televison rating will fall once she goes back to school for her JUNIOR year. So even if you fell in your small mind Paula is better no one cares.
2005-07-26 @ 21:48
Comment from: John Hoffman [Visitor]
You said it like it is. Creamer has more mental toughness then Wie will ever have. Wie better turn Pro while she has the Hype because it will not be long before she has the "CHOKE syndrome. Too bad her parents don't know how to bring her along. Maybe another Kornakova but without the sex appeal.
2005-07-26 @ 22:41
Comment from: Dave [Visitor]
Hey John D and Chris

Since everything you guys have written have been personal attacks--then yeah you're right you "really have no good argument"

John Hoffman --where was Paula Creamer's toughness when she finished behind Michelle all these years. Michelle is still ahead 4-2 head to head --yeah she has two wins but she's got an extra 3 years and an over 20 tournament experience over Michelle.

By the way- did Paula even come close to Michelle's success when she was 15 --absolutely not
She hasn't even finished as high as Michelle in a major and she's older with more experience.

How do you how much mental toughness Michelle will have in her life -she's only 15!
You were probably still wetting your bed then...
2005-07-26 @ 23:22
Comment from: Claire Voyant [Visitor]
Three years from today...

Michelle Wie will have won several tournaments and be adored by millions of fans around the world...

Chris Baldwin, if he still has a forum in which to write, will be known only as the idiot that humiliated himself by attacking Michelle Wie gratuitously three years earlier ...

John Hoffman (see above, the sleazebag who's knocking a 15 yr. old girl for her lack of "sex appeal")will still be a bitter loser working in his dirty cubicle...
2005-07-26 @ 23:47
Comment from: fred [Visitor]

Right on Claire, written like a true visionary. Imo, in golf the one quality most admired by me is the ability to hit the long ball. If you look at how far Annika and Michelle drive it, 280+ some of the courses nuffilies their greatest asset, the long ball, and you gotta let the big dog eat.
2005-07-27 @ 02:03
Comment from: Terri [Visitor]
Hey John Hoffman,
Wow, what an original name, how long did it take to think that one up. Probably just as long as it took to think up your entire post. By the way it's spelled "Kournikova"
2005-07-27 @ 05:28
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
Dear Dave, "Right On !!!!" WHERE IS THE ATTACK? "Ann - Had Michelle been a professional, she has been estimated to have made already $500,000-$600,000 in the SIX events she has played this year. Creamer, who has SIXTEEN tournaments under her belt this year, is making $1,000,000-$1,200,000. According to this, Michelle would have either likely earned at least as much as Creamer or, more likely, EXCEEDED Creamer's earnings. And yet, she is nothing but hype right? FACT: Wie has won nothing - NADA, ZERO, ZILCH ! ! So all she has is an estimate of what she MAY have earned IF she was PRO." WHERE IS THE ATTACK? "Oh, I forgot - THINK PINK ! ! !" WHERE IS THE ATTACK? "Good job Chris. You know when they personally attack back, you have made your point and they really have no good argument. You know Wie has NOT won. They know Wie has not won. Differnce is, they can't admit it." WHERE IS THE ATTACK? Nobody was called an IDIOT here either! All FACTS ! ! !
2005-07-27 @ 06:50
Comment from: Shanks [Visitor]
Hey Chris, do you think you stepped on a raw nerve??? I'll have to agree with you - partially. Anyone who actually PLAYS the game at the highest level would rather have the 2 wins as opposed to a bunch of "almosts". So right now Creamer is DEFINITELY ahead of Wie.

But I have to disagree about their futures. Wie is going to be as dominant as Nicklaus & Tiger BUT will have many worthy challengers like Creamer, Pressel & maybe Ochoa - if she ever gets over those 18th hole demons. The only thing holding Wie back is her 15 year-old maturity. Remember that the way she is losing now is exactly the same thing that Tom Watson went through IN HIS EARLY 20's! He was actually labeled a choker until he learned how to win. When Wie finally crosses that threshhold, look out bexcause it's going to be something to see.
2005-07-27 @ 08:14
Comment from: Al [Visitor]


Chris--have you been fired yet ?
2005-07-27 @ 14:33
Comment from: Ho-J [Visitor]
Chris, you are an idiot! I don't think you have sufficient brain power to make a sound judgement...

The reason for that is because, Michelle is only 15 years old... not 18 y.o. as Paula. The difference of 3 years in teenage is a very long time. How can you even think of comparing Michelle with Paula at this point in time? Why did you not wait until Michelle reaches the age of 18+ years and write your still "stupid" article... to be REALLY FAIR...
2005-07-27 @ 16:54
Comment from: Tom [Visitor]
It's hard to say 'where was Creamer when she was 15' because people mature at different rates. Some people are great early and are done at 25 while others find their game later. She is certainly hitting her stride now. I have watched every televised tourney Michelle and Paula have played in and I would say Michelle is probably better tee to green but Paula is a superior putter. Now ask yourself, which will win you more tournaments? Johnny Miller always says if you can't putt when you're young you're in trouble.
2005-07-27 @ 18:38
Comment from: Henry [Visitor]
When Nike gives her the largest contract of any female of any sport. They sure as hell will think she's the best golfer. Paula's winnings will be pennies compared to the money Michelle will be making.

By the way Paula's career money winnings are a little skewed. Essentially everyone who finishes behind Michelle gets the money she couldn't earn because she is an amatuer. For example Paula got $36,000 more when she finished tied for third behind Michelle who finished second in the LPGA Championships. Keep the 36K Paula Michelle doesn't need it.
2005-07-27 @ 19:33
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
Boycott Nike NOW ! ! ! If everyone would, they could not support the so called "Amateurs". I an amateur is getting help from any outside source, such as Nike, they should no longer be considered AMATEUR.
2005-07-27 @ 20:22
Comment from: R. Dean [Visitor]
I was recommended to this site by a friend to look for golf vacations. After reading Mr.Baldwin's "daily blog" about Ms. Wie I'll go to other sites.

Some people are also blaming Ms. Wie's parents but you gotta understand that this is something that Ms. Wie WANTS to do. She isn't being forced. I wish more children (teens) have this attitude. Be the best you can be. Set high goals.

2005-07-27 @ 20:31
Comment from: Rob [Visitor]
As of Wed July 27, all players (LPGA players and Amateurs) with the most money earned per LPGA tournament this season:

1) A Sorenstam ($149 G)
2) a)-M Wie ($88 G)
3) L Ochoa ($80 G)
4) P Creamer ($69 G)
5) C Kerr ($66 G)
6) M Baena ($53 G)
7) M Lee ($43 G)
8) C Kung ($43 G)
9) R Jones ($42 G)
10) N Gulbis ($41 G)
2005-07-27 @ 20:38
Comment from: Greg Pinelli [Visitor]
I love Chris and John D! They make almost everyone with an IQ over 70 feel superior. It is not all about winning....it's about making significant showings in important events. IF IT WERE ALL ABOUT WINNING WIE COULD PLAY IN ANY NUMBER OF AMATEUR WOMEN'S EVENTS AND BRING HOME TONS OF USELESS METAL CRAP.......
Michelle Wie (and Paula Creamer) are worthy players because they stuck their necks out and faced competition at levels above where most thought they belonged. Michelle is especially worthy of admiration...not only is she a better player than Tiger Woods was at 15 (I MEAN HEAD ON..STRAIGHT UP...PLAY 18)...she has the courage to lose and accept that it takes her farther down the road.
Is it just me...or is there something more to this simple minded antipathy I'm reading concerning Wie??

2005-07-27 @ 21:05
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
You must have a grudge-against-Wie disease. I certainly hope that you get fired.
2005-07-27 @ 21:14
Comment from: Kylie [Visitor]
Chris--looks like your girl Paula is 64th right now at the British Open and oh yeah---Michelle's ahead of her
2005-07-28 @ 11:39
Comment from: fred [Visitor]
John D. boycott Nike?? hmmm, what about Stanford, Duke for giving amateurs a golf scholarship, playing privileges and neat golf stuff. because of they play golf.
2005-07-28 @ 14:22
Comment from: fred [Visitor]
John D. boycott Nike?? hmmm, what about Stanford, Duke for giving amateurs a golf scholarship, playing privileges and neat golf stuff. because of their ability to play golf.
2005-07-28 @ 14:24
Comment from: Jack [Visitor]
I stopped watching the PGA because of the Tiger Woods hipe. Networks show the highlights of his last tournament even thou he is not playing in the current televised event. I started watching the LPGA and enjoy their talent but now it's the same old thing Michelle Wie, Michelle Wie and more Michelle Wie. Give us a break and let us see the game - show the great shots of all the players that are playing in the current event.
2005-07-28 @ 14:31
Comment from: BOB MARTIN [Visitor]
Carlota Ciganda HAS ANYONE READ ANYTHING ABOUT THIS 15 YEAR OLD SPANISH GOLFER?--- WELL SHE SHOT AN EVEN PAR 72 TODAY TYING FOR SEVENTH IN THE BRITISH OPEN---THE OTHER 15 YEAR OLD IS TIED FOR 32ND---
2005-07-28 @ 18:06
Comment from: PAT [Visitor]
ROB--ENJOYED READING YOUR STATS---COULD YOU POSSIBLY DO ONE MORE?---WHO WOULD HAVE WON MORE MONEY CREAMER OR WIE TAKING JUST THE TOURNAMENTS THEY BOTH PLAYED IN?---THANKS--PAT
2005-07-28 @ 18:38
Comment from: Kenneth [Visitor]
Bob Martin--

Maybe because Carlota Ciganda has played that course many times and it was Michelle's first time playing in that course.

Also, Annika is 1 over so is that other 15 year old better than Annika too ?

Or maybe it was because Michelle and Annika were playing during the worst part of the bad weather...

Its only Thursday --Geesh...

I didn't know grown up men like Bob , John, and Chris can act like such bitches !

2005-07-28 @ 18:41
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
Right On - Jack I stopped watching the PGA because of the Tiger Woods hipe. Networks show the highlights of his last tournament even thou he is not playing in the current televised event. I started watching the LPGA and enjoy their talent but now it's the same old thing Michelle Wie, Michelle Wie and more Michelle Wie. Give us a break and let us see the game - show the great shots of all the players that are playing in the current event.
2005-07-28 @ 20:14
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
Look everyone! Look at me I can cut and Paste!
2005-07-29 @ 03:54
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
There is an imposter among us...Who says they can cut and paste. JEALOUS?
2005-07-29 @ 05:40
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
Did you ever notice how the TV networks always put Tigger at the top of the group on the leaderboard? If there are 3 guys tied for 3rd, Tigger will be listed first. And it doesn't matter if he worked his way there from the bottom or the top of the pack. And, it is not because he is #1 player, because, a few weeks ago, when Singh was #1, and Tigger was tied with Singh, Tigger was still listed on top.
2005-07-29 @ 05:47
Comment from: Arnie [Visitor]
This is such a comical thread of whiners. Everyone is an expert on the web, ain't they? All we KNOW about Wie and Creamer is what they are actually doing as of today. As of today, all we know is that exceptional female golfers capable of competing with the best female golfers in the world. Everything else (such as how many tournaments they will win, whether Wie can play with the men, etc.) is just hype and speculation. Sports are not played on paper. They are played on the field of play, the pitch, the course, etc. Winners are winners because they go out and actually win, not because we're so SURE they're going to win in the future. Until Michelle or Paula actually rack up a string of wins or (in Michelle's world prove she can actually COMPETE with the men), they are simply exceptional female golfers. The only thing we know is that Paula has proven already that she can win. My guess is Michelle will do so fairly soon. Can we all give this a rest?
2005-07-29 @ 14:08
Comment from: Bob [Visitor]
Way to go Chris. Paula rocks. Michelle should go back to the amateur links until she can play.
2005-07-29 @ 15:06
Comment from: Bob [Visitor]
Rob, where did you get your info..

Creamer earned US$375,000 for the win, moving her above the $1 million mark and into the No. 3 slot on the LPGA money list. She became the youngest and quickest player in LPGA Tour history to earn more then $1 million and also broke Karrie Webb's 1996 record for most money won by a player in her rookie season.
2005-07-29 @ 15:17
Comment from: Kyle [Visitor]
Bob -you're a loser -get a job

And while you're at it -check out the leaderboard of the Women's British Open...

Paula finishes ahead of Michelle 2 times in the 7 times they've played in the same event, and all of a sudden she's just sooo much better...

Please...
2005-07-29 @ 16:48
Comment from: Yogi [Visitor]
It ain't over 'til it's over!
2005-07-29 @ 17:16
Comment from: Jim Coulthard [Visitor]
I noticed an anti-Wie bias in the commentary during the second round of the Women's British Open. The name Morgan Pressel was mentioned. It was said that winning a Junior event by 11 strokes could do a lot for a golfer's confidence. Well maybe Pressel did win a Junior by 11 strokes once--but what she did last week was lose in the third round of the US Junior Girls.
Morgan Pressel does not just win these Junior tournaments, she also loses some. Michelle is a year and a half younger than Morgan, but even so, winning 3 and losing 2 Junior Tournament this year does not sound like the kind of dominance which would carry over to anything more impressive than Michelle Wie's current pro record.
2005-07-30 @ 02:39
Comment from: Jason [Visitor]
Chris, you must be related to the guy that runs this website since I see you're writing more crappy articles...

Forget your "journalistic" career--you really are mediocre at writing.

Time to get back to being the fry boy at McDonalds...

2005-07-30 @ 11:28
Comment from: John [Visitor]
Hey Chris nobody is taking anything away from Paula. Your right, she is better than Michelle. For now! Let's not forget that Michelle is ONLY 15! You know this kind of criticism sounds so familiar. Oh that's right. That is the kind of stuff they said about Tiger Woods. Don't worry, I don't think it will be the last time Michelle is compared to Tiger.
2005-07-30 @ 21:27
Comment from: Angela [Visitor]
Chris, you are really bringing down this website with your sub-par writing...are you some kind of charity case ?

Is that why they can't get rid of you ?
2005-07-30 @ 23:41
Comment from: BOB MARTIN [Visitor]
WHOEVER IS IN CHARGE OF THE WOMEN'S BRITISH OPEN BLEW IT BIG TIME---THEY SHOULD HAVE PITTED CREAMER AND WIE HEAD UP---GUESS THEY WANTED SOMEONE TO FOLLOW THE OTHER PLAYERS---BUT WHAT A PR BLUNDER---WE ALL THINK IT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE BUT NO ONE CAN GUARANTEE THE FUTURE---WE CAN GUARANTEE,HOWEVER, THIS ONE HEAD TO HEAD GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE LPGA IS LOST FOREVER!!!
2005-07-31 @ 01:13
Comment from: brad [Visitor]
Paula Creamer better than Michelle Wie now, will always be better than Wie?

How about "Jennifer Mario better than Chris Baldwin, will always be better than Chris Baldwin"?
2005-07-31 @ 02:05
Comment from: dcb [Visitor]
Baldwin is absolutely right. This Asian, 6 foot 15 year old is a marketer/manager dream. They couldn't wait to thrust this youngster into the high pressure world of professional sports. Her parents should also be ashamed. It's sad to see the big company just waiting to see a breakthrough game. In a related topic, what happened to Phil Mickelson. Titleist was waiting for him to win a tournement before releasing the 905's. They finally just trickled out. Wei just lost her baby fat for pete's sake. I didn't see the article as Wie bashing. He was commenting on pushing a youngster who should maybe spend a year or so out of the spot light. Maybe Creamer supporting but hey, Creamer can do more than drive 270, she can win. Let's hope Wie doesn't join the likes of Kornikova because she does have the potential to bring the womens golf viewership above it's current plateau.
2005-07-31 @ 12:32
Comment from: James [Visitor]
FINAL RESULTS FOR WOMEN'S BRITISH OPEN

WINNER JEONG JANG

2ND SOPHIE GUSTAFSON

3RD MICHELLE WIE !!!!!!!!


5TH ANNIKA SORENSTAM

15TH PAULA CREAMER (he he!!!)
2005-07-31 @ 13:28
Comment from: Alias Gunadi [Visitor]
You really do not mean what you wrote about Michelle Wie. You wrote it to provoke reponses and thus make your column more interesting to readers. That's right isn't it? If so, then shame on you to try and profit by attacking a 15 yr old.
2005-07-31 @ 23:57
Comment from: Ann [Visitor]
It's sad to see the Wie and Creamer comparison turn to an attack on both young players. Creamer and Wie has insisted that they are friends. Also, when they are in play, everyone else is their rival not just each other. Looking at the following images, it's sad to see the media making a rival out of nothing...

http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp/50956642.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE9A21091711E5AD1E0B54A73D5E00E2297757C85AE85A779B

http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp/50956506.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE9A21091711E5AD1EC72CD4FF427262F07757C85AE85A779B

http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp/50955535.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE9A21091711E5AD1E0644882BFD295F007757C85AE85A779B

Yes, that's the Curtis Cup. Where it was said Michelle and Paula talked about other stuff during their flight to England.

2005-08-01 @ 11:27
Comment from: John Hoffman [Visitor]
Michelle Wie has all the game to be great.

I just don't understand why she doesn't take the Tiger road, winning amateur tournaments. Get used to putting someone away.Finishing 15th over the 16th player or 3 over the 5th player means nothing. Put a tournament away---Win something before the HYPE.

The only thing I can see is that is her father is putting the HYPE there so she can turn Pro. the end of this year and get endorcements without winning a thing.

Paula Creamer and Brittany Lang are the real deal and Pressel may be also. I believe Wie will be also but why not wait until she is before the HYPE.

Granted only 15. And should get tougher. Playing 8 to 10 strokes back in the British Open and playing good is not pressure. Being one stroke back or one ahead is preasure.
2005-08-01 @ 13:56
Comment from: John Hoffman [Visitor]
Just for you know nothings out there I would like to add a comment.

I have coached Volleyball for 30 years and once in a while you get a girl as a frosh. 14 years old, who you can start on the varsity without making dumb mistakes.

Why?/ Because she has great athletic ability and had good training and played in earlier years and above all she has guts. All the play you can get against girls your same age does help.You had better believe it.

Because against those girls your same age you are expected to do good and you are measured against it.

If all you people are right that Wie should be playing against Lady Pros,and men and not against amateurs I guess we can eliminate all the junior and JV teams in every grade and High School.And only have one team. A Varsity Boys team that girls and boys play on. Would you like that.

Yoe are all going Wie balistic without looking at the whole picture. I think most of you have lost it.

We all know some day Wie will be winning some tournaments. So what.

Right now she is on the wrong path for a 15 year old to build her confidence and give her some pride. Her father should give her a break. Forget turning Pro for the buck. He is building a false Tiger in this girl that should be playing H. S. Golf and winning every match if she can.I have some doubts.
2005-08-01 @ 14:40
Comment from: Marc [Visitor]
Some really good comments!

Both of these girls are rocking the LPGA and the sport! Creamer has set lofty goals and has really delivered the merchandise! It is silly to look at individual tournaments for comparisons since even the best of golfers have good rounds and bad ones, catch lucky breaks and unlucky ones! If you look at season's stats and performances though, these usually paint a fairly acurate picture... Paula is having a great rookie year regardless of her age!

Wie is also phenominal... she enters 6 LPGA events and choses the 4 majors among these... she likes going up against the best and while she still has many aspects of her game to work on (as do all atheletes at this level of competition)she has done extremely well. Like Creamer, she seems to have a great attitude and a real love for the game. Is there hype? Sure there is, welcome to the world of high level, fan friendly sports! Is the LPGA and golf in general cashing in on this new image... yes siree! Do individuals and their entourage try to cash in too... of course, atheletes who can earn big bucks for playing sports have been doing this for some time now!

Would Wie or Creamer learn more by having dominated less chalenging events? Whose to say but Ochoa and others have dominated other circuits and yet both Wie and Creamer can still beat them in LPGA tournaments so my guess is no. However if they had chosen these avenues it still would take years before someone could analyze the paths chosen and then they would not be able to compare (we will never know if it would be better for Wie to play a lot of junior events).

Has Wie won an LPGA event yet, no but she seems to be learning plenty and will undoubtedly win once she has enough tournament chances (with six big events this year she did have good finishes even if she never really threatened to win one... Creamer didn't win in her first six either... and other champions have needed many more)!

As far as spectacular and awe inspiring talent goes though... Wie does have that extra something to make most people (including her peers) take notice! While some great players have consistency and a wonderful feel for the game not many generate the attention that Wie does where people can't keep their eyes off them for fear of missing a unique shot that no one else seems able to deliver... pro sports are showbusiness and this girl has that superstar showbiz appeal!

Wie vs the men... she seems to have the type of game potentially that would allow her to compete whereas most of the other women could just hope to make the cut... the future will tell us if she can actually compete!

Keep on rockin!

2005-08-01 @ 15:07
Comment from: alan [Visitor]
Hoffman
Look at the results.
Wie is no2 in the world.
Play against kids her own age, a bit late for that me thinks. It's the last thing from her mind. There is nothing like playing against the best and that is exactly what she is doing.
Good on her.
Alan
2005-08-01 @ 16:23
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
Wie cannot be # 2.....She is an AMETEUR ! ! Let's see....SCORING #1 Sorenstam, #2 Kerr, #3 Creamer. DRIVING DISTANCE #1 Linciome, #2 Gustafson, #3 Soranstam. DRIVING ACCURACY #1 Jones, #2 Yeon Lee, #3 Morley. G.I.R. #1 Sorenstam, #2 Baena, #3 Kung. SAND SAVES #1 LeBouc, #2 Spalding, #3 Jerman. BIRDIES #1 Gulbis, #2 Creamer, #3 Jang. Hmmmm... no mention of WIE.
2005-08-02 @ 07:25
Comment from: alan metcalfe [Visitor]
Sorry John
Facts are facts, over the five top tournaments this year Michelle has finished on average in 11th position 1/2 a position behind Annika on 10.5 and 3.25 in front of Paula who has an average of 14.25.
This makes her the second best female player on the planet
Alan


2005-08-02 @ 12:05
Comment from: Jay [Visitor]
Why do you contradict yourself, John? That's right. Wie cannot be #2. She is an amateur. Amateur's stats and rankings can't be ranked with pro's stats and rankings. So she is not ranked at all in any of the LGPA stats. All your idiotic ramblings and nonsense is just a waste of time and web space. Get a life and stop digging for facts all over the internet to bash Wie with. There are better things to do in life than trying to prove everybody wrong about Wie is all hype and has no potential. We all saw her game and we are all impressed. She is first and only woman that has impressed male golfers in the PGA tour. I am sure you got your ass whupped by some asian girl in the past. Now you have this Anti-asian agenda, looking to tarnish the image of wholesome Wie. Get a life and go work on your own golf game. You wish you had Wie's game and power. And better yet, I bet you'd wish people are talking about you and saying "you're all hype" But the reality is that you're NOT. You're just an average joe, feeling sorry for yourself and your own golf game, not reaching your own expection. So you have to bring somebody down to your level...LMAO
2005-08-02 @ 15:11
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
Oh, and I forgot, probably the factor having the most impact on player ranking...WINS ! ! ! Let's see now, #1-Sorenstam, #2 Creamer, #3 Ochoa. Nope, no Wie listed here either. I just can't figure out how Wie could possibly be ranked #2. Maybe she is number 2 in the world HYPE catagory. Let's see, now #1 Tigger, #2 Wie ... Oh there she is. How silly of me to miss THAT stat.
2005-08-03 @ 05:21
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
O. K. Here it is, in black & white: Oh, we have a TIE ! ! #2 JANE PARK & PAIGE MACKENZIE - Hummmm, Golfweek/Titleist Women's Amateur Rankings based on points awarded for specific finishes in designated tournaments over the past 52 weeks, as of July 31, 2005: 1. (1) Morgan Pressel Boca Raton,Fla. 2. (2) Jane Park Oak Valley,Calif. 2. (2) Paige Mackenzie Yakima, Wash. 4. (4) Taylor Leon Dallas 5. (5) Leah Wigger Louisville, Ky 6. (6) Amie Cochran Torrance, Calif. 7. (7) Nicole Hage Coral Springs,Fla. 7. (7) Amanda McCurdy El Dorado, Ark. 9. (9) Michelle Wie Honolulu 10. (10) Louise Stahle Sweden 10. (10) Anna Grzebien Rhode Island 10. (10) Jennifer Hong 10. (10) Elizabeth Janangelo West Hartford, Conn. 14. (14) Irene Cho Lahabra, Calif. 14. (14) Ya-Ni Tseng Taiwan 14. (14) Tiffany Chudy 17. (18) Ashley Hoagland Palmetto,Fla. 17. (18) Laura Coble 17. (18) Onnarin Sattayabanphot WIE #9 Hello-o-o-o-o-o-o Down there!
2005-08-03 @ 07:31
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
Jay - It probably takes you longer to READ my posts than it takes for me to look up these stats. And probably longer to comprehend them. Just another "Wie Whiner", (Or is that WIENER?, Who can not own up to the fact that Wie has not proven herself. Just another "wanna-be" trying to shortcut the system.
2005-08-03 @ 07:44
Comment from: kuchkuch [Visitor]
let me ask John D this question, why is PGA a profession. Why do some middle aged guys earn millions hitting a golf ball? any sane person would know that PGA is what it is because of the sponsors. and why are Sponsors willing do invest huge sums of money in a sport that before long was hardly getting any attention. Michelle and Tiger are the reason why suddenly people are starting to discuss about a sport that otherwise doesn't deserve to be called a profession and sport at all. so u see, more people watching, better for the so called professionals.
2005-08-03 @ 10:12
Comment from: SK [Visitor]
Chris, what an idiot you are to make unsicientific comments and predictions. For one, Wie played in only 6 LPGA events and Creamer played in 20. No wonder Creamer had more success. You guys who criticize Wie are ding a lings who need brains examined.
2005-08-03 @ 11:27
Comment from: jackassroomie [Visitor]
You wanna make a bet who has a better career at the end? Any price, you name it. I got Wie, you take Creamer.
2005-08-03 @ 11:57
Comment from: alan metcalfe [Visitor]
Ok John.
So Michelle is not no2
She can't be ranked with the LPGA pro's because she is an amateur. She can't be ranked with amateurs because she only plays with professionals.
She is therefore insignificant in the world of golf. She must be playing in the twilight zone of golf.
Yeh Right!!
Think again. No 2 all the way.
Alan
2005-08-03 @ 13:35
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
When I watch golf on T.V., I want to see golf. I don't want to see one player or the damn announcer's faces, I want to see ALL the players, EQUALLY. Take the Buick Open on Sunday. Did you watch it? Did you see Tigger? Certainly. Probably about 25% of the time. Now do you remember #14? Tigger's EAGLE. Great shot. Did you see #17? Birdie...Ho-Hum. Tigger leads the PGA in Birdies. Do you know why #17 was the "shot of the day", as announced by the "common-taters"? Because after the ball dropped, the crowd cheered. Tigger put his hand to his ear, as if to say, "I can't hear you." This tactic was deployed for only one reason. Tigger wanted Singh to think something major had happened. Actually, The EAGLE should have been the "shot of the day". The hand to the ear was more like "unsportsmanlike conduct". Wie is one in a million, but there will be a million who think they are #1 because of her. Same thing happened when Tigger came on the scene. The media went Ga-Ga, The public went Golf Crazy (especially the youngsters). Ten years ago, anyone could walk on a golf course and be on the 1st tee with-in 30 minutes. Now you have to call make tee-times, if available. There's no turning back now. Now with Wie on the scene, can you imagine how many more younsters are going to clog the fairways? Only this time it'll be the young, ditzy, blondes, WHO YOU ALL WILL BE COMPLAINING ABOUT, in front of you.
2005-08-04 @ 07:12
Comment from: John Hohhman [Visitor]
I just saw Morgan Pressel shoot 67 and have to go 19 holes in match play to beat three time Calif. Women's amateur champ, Mina Harigae in the US Womens Open, which Wie dropped out of because she is afraid to get beat by these tough amateurs.

She could not hold a candle to the guts and play of Morgan Pressel.

Morgan who finished 2nd in the Women's Open is just waiting for Wie.

Both Morgan and Brittany Lang will take care of Wie big time. She is a punk trying to make a name to get some money when she turns Pro this year.
I do think the LPGA who turned down Pressel will let Wie on the tour before she is 18. Another crock of s**t.
That is right Wie, keep playing where you are not expected to win. Don't play with these amatuers, they may clean you clock.
2005-08-05 @ 02:03
Comment from: Jake [Visitor]
John Ho-man!

Obviously you forgot to take your pills this morning, or you are Chris Baldwin's boyfriend....

Your girl Morgan Pressel choked big time last month she was 2 up with 3 holes to go in a Junior Girls Match Play tournament and lost!!
SHE LOST IN THE 3RD ROUND PLAYING 13 YEAR OLD GIRLS!!

Michelle has finished in the Top 3 of 4 PROFESSIONAL ladies tournaments! Why the hell does she have to waste time beating weak competition like Morgan Pressel.

Lang has accomplished even less than Morgan Pressel ...
2005-08-05 @ 07:11
Comment from: Shayna [Visitor]
For those interested--

Michelle Wie will be on David Letterman August 8 Monday

and Good Morning America the next morning Aug. 9 :)
2005-08-05 @ 07:38
Comment from: kuchkuch [Visitor]
john whoreman,

comparing michelle wie with morgan pressel like trying to compare tiger woods with charles barkley(in golf).
michelle wie doesn't play those amateur tournaments purely out of respect for the likes of pressel. How bad would it look to get beat 10 and 8. just proves to show what a nice girl michelle is, doesn't want to upset anybody by embarrasing them.
2005-08-05 @ 11:47
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
I guess that's why Barkley doesn't play in the PGA?!?!?
2005-08-05 @ 16:01
Comment from: John Hoffman [Visitor]
Jake, You forgot it took Birdie Kim making a sh9t shot to win the US Women's Open. Lang and Pressel were tied for 2nd.

No Michell. She chokes every time she is close like the John Deere.

Match play is tough. Pressel may not win the Women's amateur but she hit all fairways and greens today and only faultered on one hole. Eight birdies on the day. Michelle could not have done any better.

We will see when they are both on the tour. Michell will be great but Creamer, Pressel and Lang will be there also and get their share.
2005-08-05 @ 23:03
Comment from: john [Visitor]
well said, Michelle Wie is a great talent but not a great player, she never learned how to win at any level.
Too bad that she gets all the attention despite not even being the best amatuer (Morgan Pressell)
2005-08-07 @ 09:54
Comment from: John Hoffman [Visitor]
Hay Michelle, Look at not only Creamer but Lang and the US Women's Amateur Champ, Morgan Pressel.

When will you have the guts to play where you belong and face the fact you may get beat and not live up to the HYPE.

Moegan Pressel equals the best 5 days of golf I have ever seen with the exception to Tiger.
2005-08-07 @ 18:47
Comment from: Roman [Visitor]
Morgan Pressel is very jealous of Michelle Wie now, will always be very jealous of Wie.

Michelle has the Big Driver.
Michelle has the Drive to move outside of the LPGA Tee Box.
This is why She gets the Pics, the Clicks and the Excemption Ticks.

The one with the Biggest Endorsment Contracts WINS!!!

Deal with it.
2005-08-08 @ 18:05
Comment from: RJA [Visitor]
Many including Tiger have said MW is not learning how to win. It takes talent, no doubt to play as well as she does, but many argue that it takes something extra to close the deal. So no matter how many 2nd places MW gets she won't silence the critics until she proves she can win consistently.

Ten years from now we'll have our answer. If Wie is winning consistently that will put a cork in Tiger's "learn to win" theory. If Wie is playing in lots of mens events but not winning anything on either tour then we'll know she never learned how to close the deal.

I suspect she'll do well and five years from now we'll be seeing Pressel, Wie and Creamer all going head to head on the LPGA and Wie making a cut here and there on the mens tour (but she'll never get close to winning there - whole different game).
2005-08-10 @ 19:05
Comment from: Don McAlister [Visitor]
Seeing as how Paula just won her third title in her rookie year, I would have to agree with your comments.

As to whether or not Michelle will be a greater golfer in 5 or 10 years, we will just have to wait and see.

Paula has risen to the challange -- perhaps in three years so will Michelle -- but as of now Paula is the better golfer.

The facts don't lie.

Don
2005-08-14 @ 18:28
Comment from: RJA [Visitor]
Yes, I must say that Paul Creamer winning her third tournament this last weekend is most impressive. How long until she surpasses Annika - the writing is on the wall?
2005-08-16 @ 11:41
Comment from: Rex [Visitor]
And Paula played three straight bogie-free rounds to finish at -19! That's pretty impressive, all right.
2005-08-16 @ 15:40
Comment from: Just a Hacker [Visitor]
Wow! If you were looking to make a point with this article, you succeeded! What's the best way to promote anything? Hype a controversial situation or opinion. When I was watching 2 of the Mens tournaments, I found myself wondering why I was hearing more about why a 15year old GIRL didn't make the cut than the leaders. Please people, take your liberal left brained artsy fartsy, "oh the world is so beautiful" Hippy opinions and smell the coffee brewing on Wall Street in the marketing world. Michelle Wie is a freak of nature. You like her for the same reason you like freaks at the county fair. Face human nature folks!! For Gods Sake, shes a 15 year old girl who can hit a golf ball 300 yards on a good day. That's NOT NORMAL. She's a huge talent with increadable promise, and she conducts herself with the trained poise of a shy 21 year old. Personally, my 15 year old step daughter, and every other adolescent female I've every met were absoute emotional wrecks with the temperment of a terrible 2 on steroids. Heres the 411 for all of you who may not have the intel that being a true capitolist affords you. First find a cause, then create a controversy. The buzz of everybody squabling over who's right and who's wrong brings more attention to the fight, and therefore the sport, and therefore tour and the sport makes MORE MONEY. SHeesh, Cows to slaughter!
2005-08-22 @ 21:47
Comment from: C M [Visitor]
I could not comprehend at the amount of bashing and negative comments made towards Michelle. I am wondering what has Michelle done to deserve this. I am very puzzled. I can still hear my father's stern voice during my formative years concerning the proper things to do to become succesful in life. In his pidgin english, he would say "Don't be stupid and also don't be smart". Sounds confusing? (In other words --- make wise decisions and don't be a wise ass). "Don't talk stink". (If you can't say something respectful, positive or nice--don't say anything at all). So--here we have 2 talented teenagers, doing their own thing, going in different directions, but working towards the same goals. People--- there are so many pressing problems in this world, it really doesn't matter who is or will be #1, or who did it the right way. Both are #1. Why not just sit back and enjoy watching these talented, awesome golfers. (Rankings in sports always change anyway)
2005-08-23 @ 05:45
Comment from: James [Visitor]
PAULA CREAMER FINISHED IN 33 RD PLACE AT THE SAFEWAY CLASSIC!!

MICHELLE HAS NEVER EVEN FINISHED THAT LOW!!

2005-08-23 @ 16:58
Comment from: lilbud [Visitor]
Michelle is fun to watch but when the pressure was on at the ladies open she Choked. Why does she want to make a cut on a pga tour event? She won't win on the men's tour. great achievement makin a cut , but please, winning is the name of the game in the pros. She may hit it long for a girl but the guys hit it by her 50 yds. Beat the other great girls out there before you try to take on the men. the 225th player on the pga tour will kick her ass.
That said these new crop of Creamer lang pressel and wie is making me a fan of the LPGA
2005-08-28 @ 15:35
Comment from: Rick [Visitor]
Michelle Wie needs to pay her dues first. In time, it appears very likely that she will live up to the hype.
It's the aspect of her having to earn her place in line as opposed to being given a free pass to the begining of the line that get's to some of us.

2005-08-31 @ 09:58
Comment from: b33zy [Visitor]
Relax guys, pay closer attention to the article. The author is not bashing Wie as much as he is making a point that the media is hyping her to a very high level and his opinion is that it is a bit too high considering she has no wins yet. He also makes a point that she (or really let's be honest, her parents) should consider letting her finish school before turning pro.
2005-09-12 @ 10:30
Comment from: Islander [Visitor]
Paula Creamer is good news for Michelle Wie. It will take some - maybe a lot - of the media attention away from her. With less pressure, she may do even better. Creamer and Wie are both young and attractive and highly talented players. Golf is more fun now.
2005-09-14 @ 12:39
Comment from: BA [Visitor]
Interesting, it is, to see all the hate posted here. I am not an avid viewer of women's golf, nor men's golf for that matter. I only gravitate to some televised events, opting instead to spend my time at the range, in my backyard chipping, in my living room putting or on the course. However, even I have become wary of the Michelle hype. I'm tired of seeing Creamer win an event, then listening to my golfing buddies talk about Michelle. It's ridiculous. In my own personal OPINION (which some of you people still haven't grasped - your view is an opinion, not a fact), that Michelle is not as good as the hype that has surrounded her. True, Tiger is a great golfer, and probably always will be; but I would rather watch Mickelson play anyday, because he makes me want to root for him. Tiger plays like a freakin' robot. If Michelle can find a way to make me root for her, then great. If not, well. . .I think I'll live.
2005-09-16 @ 00:07
Comment from: Ralph DeMattia [Visitor]
Michelle Wie is a Publicity stunt and little more! She's now shot her mouth of 3 times about joing the men's circuit and failed to make the cut-BADLY! She has NEVER won a tournament of any standing, yet she keeps trying to go where she isn't qualified! If she wasn't oriental, I don't think anyone would notice her in the first place- You gotta love the liberal media types- They want yet another minority in the spotlight and they don't seem to care who, just so it ISN'T a White heterosexual Man. I know I'll get more flak on this than the bombers did flying over WWII Germany, but face it- People hate the obvious!
2005-09-19 @ 09:15
Comment from: greg [Visitor]
Hey chris and john about Creamer and Pressel comparisons to Wie. You guys must be on mushrooms or something. Both those women are pretty, smart and i'm sure will have very productive careers, but there is a valid reason for the hype that surrounds Michelle Wie.
The PGA men know it, the LPGA women know it, the crowds that flock to the tournaments she plays in know it, why can't the two of you figure it out.
Simply put here is a smart, savy 15 year old who is about to make 10 million a year. All she wants to do is test herself against the best men and women golfers at the highest level possible.
Oh, by the way she's back at school for her junior year earning A's and learning Chinese and Japanese, she is already fluent in Korean.
I just hope she and her parents can guard against all the people who will want a piece of her.
2005-09-29 @ 20:33
Comment from: Joel [Visitor]
All of you Wie critics should check to see how long it took Tiger Woods to make the cut in a PGA event.
2005-10-06 @ 11:15
Comment from: DHDH [Visitor]
I think they're both great.

Millionaires both and if I were gonna go out with either of them they'd better darn well pay!!!!

...and I bet I could beat the both of them at their own golf game provided they give me a 200 yard head strat

2005-10-10 @ 16:37
Comment from: RRR [Visitor]
Samsung is holding a little tournament this coming weekend in SOCAL that includes the top 17 LPGA Tour money leaders, two other players and Michelle Wie. In last years tournament Wie finished ahead of seven of those leading money winners by placing 13th in the tournament.

I seem to recall El Tiger missing his first eight cuts as a Pro and I am wondering if you know how many LPGA sanctioned events Wiezy has missed the cut during the last couple of years? I believe the number that comes to mind is ZERO.

I've got a C Note that says she leaves at least half of those 17 leading money winners behind this year.

Care to put your money where your mouth is Chrissy?

2005-10-11 @ 06:55
Comment from: DHDH [Visitor]
I think writers just need to write. After a month or a year no one looks back on how wrong they were. Wie will definitely kick some tail on the LPGA and Creamer already has. It's a win / win for the LPGA and us fans.
2005-10-12 @ 17:14
Comment from: David A [Visitor]
Now that Wie is a Pro, time will tell what she can do for real. Paula has already proven that she has the game. She also has the personality and smile to go with it. She is a tough, aggressive competitor and her game is up there with Annika. I wish both Michelle and Paula the best and I'm certain that both will be a great asset to the game of golf. There is no reason why we can't enjoy watching both of them as they break a lot of records.
2005-10-12 @ 23:14
Comment from: Sick of the "Wype" (Wie-Hype) [Visitor]
The public and the media will never admit that Michelle Wie's success comes largely due to the fact that she looks like a model. Next to Anna Kornakouva, Michelle Wie is the largest non-success story in Sports. At least Anna has class. She's doesn't go shooting her mouth off "I'm going to win this one".
2005-10-14 @ 19:06
Comment from: Norman [Visitor]
Michelle never says she's going to win anything. All she ever says is she is going to try her hardest to win.

Michelle has real talent and potential to get to the top.

Anna had talent, but not to get to the very top like Michelle.
2005-10-17 @ 17:59
Comment from: SSS [Visitor]
Hey RRR

Where's my C-Note?!?!?

2005-10-25 @ 16:51
Comment from: FD Giorgio [Visitor]
Michelle Wie is super 16 year old talent, still in the formative stage. Paula Creamer barely a couple years older, at this point in her career, is a great talent.
In my opinion, the major difference, and I watch these kids perform as often as I can, is something you can't teach, INTESTINAL FORTITUDE. She knows how to close the deal, she's very "tigeresque" in this regard, MW isn't. I've been around a long time coaching kids and you just know when a real Star shows up.I take nothing away from Michelle and her accomplishments,but Paula is the "Tiger" and Michelle is the "Phil".
An older golfers observation.
2005-11-17 @ 11:18
Comment from: FD Giorgio [Visitor]
Additionally....Paula and Michelle...
You'd better look over your shoulder, here comes MORGAN.
Note to media:
Back off on these kids....You're going to make them hate each other rather than be friendly rivals.
2005-11-17 @ 11:41
Comment from: steve froy [Visitor]
well done--paula creamer will go down has the best that ever played - then every one will say michelle who? steve froy
2005-11-18 @ 12:28
Comment from: John D [Visitor]
I am really a prat.
2005-11-19 @ 11:07
Comment from: s.h. [Visitor]
I think its funny that so many people bashed the writer when this article came out, but here we are 6 months later and michelle we is still nothing more than a winless, classless, whiny brat. Its good that the hype machine is still going strong, because her golf game sure isn't. Every time something goes wrong I see her on sportscenter giving excuses and acting sad. Come on, you want to play the best in the world, try to get marginally consistent at the game. There are a lot of people who can shoot a good round every month. Its the people who can shoot one every day that are special.
2006-01-13 @ 01:24
Comment from: Dave Ruth [Visitor]
Thank you, finally some one who speaks the truth.
2006-01-13 @ 14:01
Comment from: John Hoffman [Visitor]
Michelle was a surprise this last day. Maybe she will grow out of her baby mode. We will have to wait a few more years. The LPGA should be interesting. If Tiger isn't playing I will watch the girls.
Another old golfer, John
2006-02-27 @ 11:51
Comment from: AllBiz [Visitor]
This is such a funny site to read comments from!!!

It's like people just don't get it....the one with the most toys wins in the game of life....

Let's take a look at Greg Norman as an example....he's making $$$Millions from other aspects of golf than tournaments...take a look at his earnings from playing....come on, are you going to call Greg a loser????

Jeeeeeeeez, Chris, it's like you and the others just don't get it!

There's a number of exciting young players attracting a larger audience to golf whch means a lot more $$$ to the industry...Paula Creamer's an addition to the scene...

Gotta give it to Michelle though....for never SHOOTING OFF HER MOUTH... :)

That's one classy young lady....I don't care if she never wins a tournament....But I wouldn't mind making the $$$ she does!

2006-03-28 @ 15:34
Comment from: Branko [Visitor]
Personally, I think they are both excellent golfers. It is much too early to say which of the two is better. Paula may have a couple of wins, but I would not be surprised if Wie ends up with more when both have hung up their clubs many years down the road.

Attacking Wie's mental toughness at this stage in her career is a joke. If you can finish in the top ten in any LPGA event as she has done then it is obvious that she does have the necessary mental toughness to compete.

I think both of these young ladies are fascinating golf stories and both should prove to be great marketing opportunities for the LPGA and any sponsors smart enough to sign either of these women. Just look at Anna Kournakova in the Tennis world. She was in the top 20 when she first came up but was a bust for most of her career. However, ESPN loved showing highlights of her despite her all too often 1st round eliminations from most tournaments. These two ladies have the talent and the looks that will be a big cash cow for them both.
2006-04-05 @ 08:52
Comment from: erick [Visitor]
wow, a year later and i guess the proof is in the pudding.
2006-05-05 @ 05:28
Comment from: hawaiiangolfergirltoo [Visitor]
MICHELLE - YOU GO GIRL!!!! WHERE ARE ALL THE CRITICS NOW?? - WHY SO QUIET????? MICHELLE'S HAS ONLY BEGUN..........
2006-05-05 @ 14:04
Comment from: greg [Visitor]
Thanks for speaking the truth. Wie is one over-rated whiny little brat. There are so many women golfers out there that are better and exude class. I'm sick and tired of her non-winning excuse making garbage. Go out there and win something, anything. She hasn't won a tournament in over 3 years. C'mon Wie, win something for a change.
2006-05-05 @ 20:56
Comment from: mofo [Visitor]
I appreciate how good Michelle Wie is at a young age of 15. But I think being that young also hurts her.
The thing that bugged me was her trying to golf with the men.
Stay in your league please.

2006-07-02 @ 18:02
Comment from: K.R. [Visitor]
Michelle Wie is attractive, young, tall, talented, better than average golfer, but probably no better than anyone else that has been given a comparable opportunity, appears to have a bad temper, interesting to watch play, spoiled brat, media hound, LPGA drawing card, with lots of money and earning potential, that may or may not make it big on tour, that makes excuses for a mediocre performance, that waves halfheartedly to the crowd after getting applause, that seems to be a bit out of her league, that lacks maturity – which is understandable, that should have waited a couple of years before turning pro, that needs to win soon or she will be getting lots of criticism and probably fade away. Frankly I hope she makes it big and is able to learn like Tiger not to turn people off.
2006-07-03 @ 21:37
Comment from: Robert Wiles [Visitor]
Please advise me as to why Michelle Wie
is not even listed on the lpga. She is
not on the money list stats ect it's
like she does not exist.
RobertWiles666@msn.com
2006-07-15 @ 03:18
Comment from: 3girldad [Visitor]
With three girls I am a fan of women’s sports and believe that this young group of golfers has a great chance of breaking through the athletic ceiling that has limited the mainstream popularity of other women’s sports. Not that the top women can successfully compete against the top men and certainly not because Michele Wie can compete with Tiger. I believe that they have the chance to break through because they are very good and the game they play much more closely resembles the golf that most of us are familiar with as opposed to the men’s game that is out of the reach of most mortals.

Anyone that has ever played competitive golf at any level knows that from going from good to competitive to winning is a progression, the men’s satellite tours are filled with PGA talent but only few players that are ready to compete and fewer yet that are ready to win. I believe this is why so many people are so frustrated with the path that Michele Wie’s handlers have chosen for her.

Allowing such a magnificent talent to become a sideshow act attempting to make cuts (not win, not compete, just make cuts) at minor PGA events rather than grooming her to win significant women’s events is doing her a disservice and harming the advancement of women’s sports. I think Michele Wie may not fully appreciate the USGA Junior, and USGA Armature void in her resume now but with every passing winning opportunity lost it becomes more clear that this strategy when measured against history was a mistake.

Make no mistake she is a great player and will win her share of tournaments in the future, if she does not burn out before learning how to win. Her path has earned her great wealth sooner than the path I would have chosen but I can’t help thinking about how much the USGA Championships, European Champions, and NCAA Championships have contributed to all of the great champions in history and how this has been taken away from her in pursuit of a sports model payday.

Rolex Rankings only affect one tournament, they don’t seed players every Thursday so that is of little consequence to anyone outside of the press, what is important is incorporating Michele Wie into the mainstream LPGA quickly so she can learn to win and contribute to moving that Tour closer to the Men’s Tour in status and popularity. This may be a watershed moment for the LPGA with great established champions and the best group of young pros that the sport has ever seen………….the question is whether Michele want to help lead this progress or just profit from the efforts of today’s LPGA leaders.
2006-07-18 @ 10:51
Comment from: Ralph DeMattia [Visitor]
I agree! Paula Creamer is an adult, while Michelle Wie is still achild and acts like ne! Wie has done little in the past year but shoot off her mouth about how good she is and how much better she'll be, while Ms. Creamer simply goes out, shoots a quality game, and SHOWS just how good she is with all the humility and ability the Wie doesn't have yet. All Michelle Wie is right now is a big wind in an empty cave. She'll more than likely get better as time progresses, but if she doesn't stop telling us HOW MUCH BETTER, the sports world will get tired of her real fast! We've hjad so many male a*****e sports celebrities in the past 10 years: I hope Ms. Wie isn't going to start a female roster!
Paula Creamer is class and skill, and I don't even like golf that much, and can see that! She is a real gem, in that so many female athletes tell you how good they are, and how good they'd be against men: Sure, we're threatened by assertive females, but Paula Creamer is one young lady who makes me look forward to seeing her compete against men, because she'll
E A R N her chance at a no-crutch legitimate PGA try, not whine and bitch for a handicapped attempt! GO PAULA!!!!
2006-08-11 @ 09:33
Comment from: Heath [Visitor]
Who has been passing the Kool-aid out to all of these people! It soundslike they all have a Michelle Wie alter that they worship at. What is it about pitting women against men in sports that has everyone pushing, yes pushing this golfer into competing against men that she will never, yes never be able to beat. Michelle has been last in her last two tournements on the PGA tour. What a great accomplishment. Maybe she can make it last again the next time or maybe she'll just be 5th from last. Her driving average was almost last at the 84 Lumber, good job Michelle.
Alot of kids want to go up against the bigger and better players in all sports. But it takes PARENTS to help them make decisions about when they should. Michelle's parents have their daughter marketed to make money in endorsements, not winning golf. Her playing in PGA tournements is now officially a JOKE, period. No matter how you spin it. And yes, she is taking spots away from people who are playing for their livelyhood. She is playing for the cameras, her sponsers. When you are the one who did not get a call for a spot because they want a 16-year old girl who periodically plays well in some womens tournements instead, you would understand the other side of the coin.
I think she is a great talent and could be a power some day on the womens tour. She will never be a power on the mens tour no matter how much you want her to.
Paula's parents were looking out for her. Unfortunately I think Michelle's parents were looking at Michelle and saw $$$$$$(No, I don't think they are exploiting her on purpose, BUT..). It is hard to say no to cash dangling in your face but as a parent you must step in and be one.
I go to the big top to see the circus. I don't go to golf tournements to see one.
This is what it is becoming and in the end that is sad for her and only her!
2006-09-15 @ 16:24
Comment from: Jeff Rites [Visitor] Email
Oh, I am stinking up the course, let me
fake and elbow injury, too save face. enough
said!!!That shows michelle wies heart and
charactor.Paula Creamer is better now and
will have a better career.Maybe in 10 yrs.
all the idiots can pull a wie and fake a head
injury why they were wrong.
2007-06-07 @ 07:36
Comment from: Robert Robson [Visitor] Email
You have got it right. Paula Creamer is one class act that the LPGA will benefit for years on end. She displays a very interviewable and professional appearance to both the media and her fans. She is the future of the LPGA by what she has done not what some over hyped pretty young women is supposed to do. She truly enjoys the competition and offers no excuses just results. She is a class act. Michelle Wie has yet to prove anything. I hope she does because it will draw even more attention to the LPGA. Until she does Paula will keep placing in the top ten and I am sure will win more than her fair share of tournaments. I agree with your article. Comparing the 2; Paula is head and shoulders above Michelle in all areas that lead to a succesful career. She is the class of the young up and coming players and is the one I root for.
2007-06-08 @ 01:00
Comment from: Ralph DeMattia [Visitor] Email
Ms. Creamer is simply a better golfer, is better looking, and NOT a zipperhead!
2007-07-06 @ 04:26
Comment from: joe cool [Visitor] Email
On letting go of unnecessary pressure: "(Last year) I didn't know what I was doing or who I wanted to be. It was just a phase, but now I'm comfortable with myself. I realize golf is not the biggest deal in the whole world. Golf is just a game. It won't kill anyone."

Hmmm...I guess getting $10,000,000 per year is not a big deal for Michelle.
Ask the board members of Sony & Nike about it won't kill anyone
2008-04-28 @ 21:29

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