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Comment from: wei_c25 [Visitor]
She would have finished top 10 in the money list as a 15 year old this year.

In my book, that's pretty good no matter how old you are. Is that not good enough for you?

What excuses/hype are you talking about?

I think you need to move on to something else, this is getting old.
2005-09-20 @ 21:30
Comment from: Chuck [Visitor]
Sigh. Okay, I'll bite too. I wonder what excuse Baldwin will have for still being employed after Wie wins her first tourney. Let's see if TravelGolf.com understands the idea of accountability. I can't for the life of me figure out who is nervous here--unless it's Chris...
2005-09-20 @ 23:17
Comment from: Norman [Visitor]
Excuses weren't needed before or after she turns pro.

She's done extremely well.
Well done to her for her achievements to date.
Good luck to her in her future career.

No doubt certain stupid people will be posting after the Samsung saying why hasn't she won.
If she finishes top 10, that is a magnificant achievement in my book.

Why is Chris saying, that people thought she was above critism.
I don't, anyone who wants to critise anyone can, but the point is, that to crisise someone who has done so well is just lunacy.

Her record to date is phenomenal. I thought she would do well last season in her 7 tournaments. I was even hopeful that she may even get a couple of top 10's if she played well. She exceeded the expectations of anyone with any rational or any genuine cop on.

Good luck for the future to Michelle. If she keeps going the way she has been, then all will be well.
2005-09-21 @ 15:49
Comment from: Norman [Visitor]
She is 15 years old. Why do so many people think that she should be winning LPGA events and making cuts in PGA events.

It is all a matter of expectations. I think anyone with any cop on would think finishing 2nd in LPGA events and LPGA majors is great. To add to that to get within 2 shots and 1 shot of making a PGA cut, in just 3 attempts is outstanding for a 15 year old girl.

It took TIGER 9 attempts.
Why should Michell be quicker that the great one?

I think if Michelle were to win a tournament, then Chris and others would give out that she is a failure for not being top of the money list. Some people are just sad.
2005-09-21 @ 16:09
Comment from: alan [Visitor]
When Wie wins Baldwin might as well put away his pen.
You mentioned tiger. There is no comparison. Wie has done far better than Tiger. He didn't compete on the PGA until he was 16 and his attempts were pitiful until he finally qualified when he was 19.
She will be quicker than Tiger.
Alan M
2005-09-22 @ 12:27
Comment from: Taylor [Visitor]
``Did I hear she might make $10 million a year?'' David Toms said Wednesday. ``I'd like to get half that much. And I've won a tournament.''
2005-09-22 @ 18:52
Comment from: Norman [Visitor]
Poor David Toms .... get out the violins.
2005-09-22 @ 18:55
Comment from: Rodney [Visitor]
Sorry, I'm pretty new here but isn't she a young kid.

Is it not spectacular that she is playing and competing well in some mens tournaments.

Is it not amazing that she finished 2nd in an LPGA major.

Is it not great that was the first woman to ever qualify for a mens amatuer public links, and that she then went on to get to the quarter final.

Is she not one of the most exciting a inspirational things to happen in golf for years. Should people not be celebrating her and rejoiceing in her brilliance not belittling her.

I really think anyone who tries to belittle her has rocks in her head. She has achieved so much at at such a young age. She is far ahead of where Tiger was at her age.
2005-09-22 @ 19:39
Comment from: Jillian [Visitor]

Ummm-David Toms-you don't have 10 million dollars in endorsements because nobody gives a sh** about you.
2005-09-22 @ 22:32
Comment from: Wei [Visitor]
Who's David Toms?
2005-09-23 @ 09:24
Comment from: Rodney [Visitor]
David Toms is one of the crowd. He plays golf on the PGA tour but blends in. Nobody outside of golf fanatics would know who he was probably.
That's his problem.
2005-09-23 @ 13:23
Comment from: CLIFFORD E. ELISARY [Visitor]
WHO THE HELL IS CHRIS BALDWIN, AND EXCEPT FOR HIS MOTHER WHO IS INTERESTED IN WHAT HE HAS TO SAY????
2005-09-24 @ 23:09
Comment from: Jim Coulthard [Visitor]
NORMAN Why do people expect Michelle Wie to be winning LPGA tournaments and making PGA cuts at 15?

At 13 she was in the final group the last day at an LPGA Major(Kraft Nabisco) before falling to 9th. Later she won the WAPL, and then at 14 she missed the PGA Sony cut by a single stroke after a strong finish. At that point winning LPGA tournaments or making PGA cuts before 16 seemed like something that might be reasonably likely. She has made progress since that time in terms of consistent high finishes in LPGA events, but expectations may have been higher.

Of course there is a difference between having expected Michelle Wie to have accomplished more, and launching verbal attacks against her. Chris Baldwin is doing it to stir up interest in his site. Other golfers are undoubtedly jealous of Michelle Wie's ability to pull in endorsement dollars--but sometimes complaints against her got ridiculous. The complaint about her receiving a special exemption to the 2004 Open is a case in point. Had she been an LPGA pro, she would have earned enough to qualify based on earnings in just a few events. LPGA pros should have been happy with the exemption rather than make an issue of something involving official LPGA earnings which should never have been the a basis for a USGA exemption in the first place. USGA exemptions should only be based upon how well golfers perform in tournaments--not upon membership in the LPGA and acceptance of money as a pro. But they complained about her special exemption not being earned, when in fact it was the closest any special exemption has ever been to being earned.

On the other hand, it would be hard to argue that Michelle Wie actually deserves these millions more than someone like Juli Inkster--except of course for the fact that Michelle could sell a lot more merchandise than Juli, and that, not accomplishments is what this particular money is all about. Potential also factors in as it does in any athlete's contract. Nike clearly expects her to improve with age, her value to them would clearly decline if she were to get no better as she gets older. I happen to believe that the attacks against Wie for not winning forced the Wie's to go pro, quite possibly earlier than they might otherwise have done. There was so much pressure put on Wie to win, that it helps to have the money to go first class with caddies and such, as well as the guaranteed money which makes winning or not less critical. Unlike other LPGA pros, going pro for Wie will actually mean less pressure and not more. I doubt that any LPGA pro has ever faced the pressure to win that Wie has in the past few months.

2005-09-25 @ 00:17
Comment from: Norman [Visitor]
Jim, the reason people expect so much of Michelle is because she has been hyped for a while now.

When less knowledgeable people hear of the NEXT BIG THING, they assume that this person will win the US Masters etc NOW.

What these people don't seem to realise is golf doesn't work that way. In golf players usually peak in their 30's. Tiger an obvious exception. And Vijay peeked after 40.

This season for Michelle has been a staggering achievement in my opinion, and also in the opinions of people who actually know something about golf.

Her consistant high finishes and her ability to play well when the going gets tough, I refer to the Sony Open here where everything was going wrong in the 2nd round but she played one of the best mental rounds I've seen by any golfer for a while. She played 7 beautiful holes but only got par. Next thing there was a triple bogie and I expected the wheels to really come off, but she completed the rest of the round in 1 over, still trying in every shot. Many seasoned pros would have given up half way into the round.

I agree Chris Baldwin obviously wants to generate interest. The great thing about him though is the attitude he displays makes people like Michelle more. I wonder if he is actually a big Michelle fan and maybe he puts up these stories to try to help her because it will only end up in more publicity and boosted earnings for her.

The LPGA exemption is a non-issue in my opinion. If you finish 2nd you have proved everyone wrong who said you shouldn't be there. End of story.

I agree Michelle doesn't deserve all the money.... but we live in a celebrity world. Britney doesn't deserve her money. Christina Aguilera certainly doesn't deserve hers.

I think Juli's big problem is that Michelle is young, pretty and has an improving golf game. Unfortunately for Juli she's on the downslope of all these. I think her comments against Michelle are just the result of jealousy.
I wonder what Juli will complain about when Michelle is pro, probably that she shouldn't be playing in mens tournaments I guess because it shows disrespect for the LPGA.

People need to realise, Michelle in PGA events helps the LPGA hugely. People are watching some LPGA events now who never would have dreamed watching LPGA before.
2005-09-25 @ 08:32
Comment from: Jim Coulthard [Visitor]
Allow me to clarify myself. I said I thought it should be Juli who should get the big money--I did not say Juli ever complained about the situation. Indeed, she worked very well with Paula Creamer at the Solheim Cup, and someone said she offered her caddy to help Michelle Wie. There have been many complaints about Michelle Wie from LPGA pros, I am not aware of any by Juli. I only said she deserves the money because I admire her.

I don't know that I caught the Sony this year, but I did hear that Wie played in some terrible conditions.
I agree that she had a great year--but it certainly seems like it would have been possible for her to score an LPGA win or a PGA cut. Nevertheless, I would agree with you that for a young golfer, consistent high finishes are probably a better sign than inconsistency with one win thrown into the mix.

AGE. Paula Creamer just turned 19 and is the second leading golfer this year on the LPGA, just ahead of Kerr. Morgan Pressel and Brittany Lang tied for 2nd at the Open. On the women's side, at least, young players are coming up much better prepared than in the past. Michelle Wie is clearly the head of the class, but she is not in a class by herself. I would expect these golfers to be like Tiger and peak at an earlier age than what we have seen in the past--but I would not expect any of them to peak before 20.
2005-09-25 @ 13:20
Comment from: Joe [Visitor]
Jim C

Must disgree with who is the head of the class at this point. Paula Creamer is the head of this class for now. Michelle potentially can go to the head of the class with her talent.

I hope Michelle lives up to her potential but I find some of her father's comments troubling. He usually responds to questions about her with things like "I have not decided this yet". It should be we or Michelle has not decided yet. It makes me wonder just how committed this young girl is to the career path her father has put her on. One cannot but help wonder if this is all about cashing in now as the priority rather than her place in golf history based on her performance. No matter how gifted she is the expectations are so absurdly high that is would not be surprising if she cannot fulfill them. This may stil mean that she can have a great career.
2005-09-26 @ 08:55
Comment from: Jim Coulthard [Visitor]
Obviously if we compare Michelle Wie near 16 with Paula Creamer at the same age, Michelle Wie is far ahead. If we want to compare a soon to be 16 year old high school student with a full time professional who is 19, then it is hard to tell it is hard to tell who is ahead--we will just have to wait until the Samsung Tournament to see. I factor age into account when I rank Michelle as clearly and overwhelmingly the head of the class when I am talking about top young talent as well as status as a full time golfer or a full time student.
2005-09-26 @ 13:54
Comment from: Joe [Visitor]
I agree Michelle is the head of the 16 year old class. As far as young talent I would put Paula first, Morgan second and Michelle third. Only once they all play regularly will anyone really be able to tell who is first. It may never be clear and will only be left to the indvidual who is observing. Like Tiger and Vijay, even when Vijay was #1 in the World no one was talking of him as possible being the Greatest ever because one year or a short window of time is not enough to be #1. It is the test of time and we will all have fun watching these young stars go through their careers and see if they do better than Annika.

Like Arnie and Jack, Arnie is the King but Jack proved he was the greatest golfer over time judged by the records of wins. Arnie may have done more for golf to bring it to another level but Jack is the Greatest......so far.
2005-09-26 @ 15:34
Comment from: Norman [Visitor]
Jim Coulthard said:
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Allow me to clarify myself. I said I thought it should be Juli who should get the big money--I did not say Juli ever complained about the situation.
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Jim, I remember some comment from Juli about Michelle, but I cannot remember what. I just remember it leaving a bad taste in my mouth.
I think maybe it was about the LPGA championships, that she was saying no way should Michelle be there. Note sure though.
2005-09-26 @ 17:47
Comment from: Norman [Visitor]
Joe said:
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I agree Michelle is the head of the 16 year old class. As far as young talent I would put Paula first, Morgan second and Michelle third.
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Ooh, I think you're way off the mark there putting Morgan in 2nd. I really like her alot, but I do think Michelle is a long way ahead of her even with Morgan being 2 years older.

The Paula Creamer versus Michelle debate is always a divisive one. Paula is a very fine golfer so it is difficult to say, but the way I look at it is, when they have gone head to head Michelle has a great lead over Paula.

It really isn't fair to take Paula's two wins into equiation in this argument because she has had the opportunity of playing so many more events, and uninterrupted, whereas Michelle has had just a few events and intermingled with playing Amatuer with the men, then completely changing to a links course in the womens british open, and also adjusting to the extra length and difficult of the mens at the John Deere. Basically she has had no opportunity to get a flow or a rhythm on similar golf courses.

Paula gets to play week in week out, on the LPGA courses which are fairly standard with each other.

So in short, I'm agreeing with you on the point, that it is impossible to say exactly who is the greatest without seeing them all playing regularly together.

SIDE QUESTION:
If Michelle turns pro soon, what ways can she gain her card without Q-school.
I believe US womens Open, gives you a 5 year exemption on the tour if you win it. Is this right?
Also, for other tournaments, if you win then do you get a year examption or something?
2005-09-26 @ 17:57
Comment from: Joe [Visitor]
Michelle has not played either Paula or Morgan head to head. Comprising where people finish in a hand full of common tournaments may be interesting for some. It is as telling as adding up all the participants ages and coming up with an average. It does not mean anything unless they play in match play or at least in the final 2 groups of a normal tournament. Of course winning is the objective.

Paula and Morgan both have had distinguished Junior and Amateur careers. Both have an enormous amount of Match Play experience. Michelle chose a different path so there is no fair comparison. At this stage I doubt Michelle could beat either Paula or Morgan regularly in match play. In time this could change.

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Norman said
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Michelle has had just a few events and intermingled with playing Amatuer with the men, then completely changing to a links course in the womens british open, and also adjusting to the extra length and difficult of the mens at the John Deere. Basically she has had no opportunity to get a flow or a rhythm on similar golf courses.
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Whose fault is this? It is one reason why a comparison is difficult but this helter skelter approach may be her undoing. It certainly has added to the hype which may be the real objective. Unless or until Michelle plays regularly on the LPGA a real comparison is not possible. Everything else is hypothetical nonsense but there will be big endorsement money for the Wie family.
2005-09-26 @ 21:03
Comment from: Jim Coulthard [Visitor]
JOE You obviously like match play--but almost all pro golf is stroke play. Rankings are based on money earned for all players who make the cut, or points. In the case of the LPGA, Rookie points are awarded everyone who makes the cut, Solheim Cup points to all the Top 20, and Player of the Year points to all Top 10 finishers. No particular distinction is made in comparing players as to whether they played in the same group or not.

Comparing how Michelle and Paula perform in the same tournaments, or how Michelle and Morgan perform in a similar number of tournaments seems a reasonable way to make a comparsion.

As far as whose fault it is that Michelle is not playing consistently on the LPGA like Paula Creamer--even if Michelle wanted tio play in more LPGA events she would not be permitted to do so. Morgan Pressel is in the same situation. Morgan also has to adjust to differences between the LPGA and her amateur events.
2005-09-27 @ 14:09
Comment from: Norman [Visitor]
Joe said
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Michelle has not played either Paula or Morgan head to head. Comprising where people finish in a hand full of common tournaments may be interesting for some. It is as telling as adding up all the participants ages and coming up with an average. It does not mean anything unless they play in match play or at least in the final 2 groups of a normal tournament. Of course winning is the objective.
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You seem to be saying that unless you finish 1st in a tournament, that it does not matter whether you finish 2nd or 102nd. Correct me if I'm taking you up wrong!
I think Michelle's high finishes where she has played in the same tournaments as Paula, do count for something. It shows that she consistantly shoots better rounds than Paula in tournaments.
In my opinion, Top 5's count for something, Top10's, and Top 20's. Also a run of "not missing the cut", counts for something as well, so this attitude of "1st place or nothing" seems very strange to me.

So based on finishes I put Michelle 1st, Paula 2nd, and Morgan 3rd.
However if someone ever manages to convince me that only 1st place counts, then I would put Paula 1st.
2005-09-27 @ 15:24
Comment from: Norman [Visitor]
Joe said:
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Whose fault is this? It is one reason why a comparison is difficult but this helter skelter approach may be her undoing. It certainly has added to the hype which may be the real objective. Unless or until Michelle plays regularly on the LPGA a real comparison is not possible. Everything else is hypothetical nonsense but there will be big endorsement money for the Wie family.
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As Jim pointed out Michelle is only permitted to play a few LPGA events per year, so she cannot build up a rhythm there like Paula so it is not her fault.
As regards the changing courses being her undoing. On the contrary, I think it will help to develop her into a better player, better to cope under different conditions and different courses. I think it will help her long term, although it could delay her getting her first win for another while.

Just on the other point everyone keeps bring up about Morgan & Paula playing the junior ranks and winning.
The Wie family have explained that they live on an island far off the mainland, so it is simply not feasible to travel to all these junior events. Her approach has always been to go for the highest event she could get to.

This means that sponsors pay all their accomodation etc. If she was travelling to Junior events, no sponsor would be interested and thus she would not be able to afford all the travel.
2005-09-27 @ 15:31
Comment from: Arnie [Visitor]
Yawwwwwnnn... Hasn't this discussion run it's course. She's turning pro; she will win on the LPGA tour, a lot; so will Creamer, Pressell and other young talent coming up. She will never win a PGA tour event, nor will she ever really compete for one. She will someday scrape by and make a cut in a PGA tour event, probably the B.C. Open or some garbage field like that. The media will jump on it and make it out to be more than it really is, of course. But most importantly, to her and her Dad, she is going to become fabulously wealthy from all her endorsement contracts. That's what this is all about.

What is very cool, and is often overlooked in all of this, is that there is a very real possibility that the LPGA will be dominated, collectively, by three young US women. It's been a while since you could say that. I don't see this a one versus another, but simply all of them being really talented. What Paula Creamer is doing as an 18/19 year old is pretty amazing stuff. She's a lot better than people give her credit for. Wie is faced with providing she is as good as people give her credit for. I'm curious how she will handle it if the winning doesn't come quickly. It will all be an interesting ride in a sport that is often about as interesting as lawn bowling with your elderly great aunt.
2005-09-27 @ 19:57
Comment from: Joe [Visitor]
Arnie

Well said and it certainly is exciting that 3 young US Women will be the stars of the LPGA. It will be great to see it all unfold.

IT will be very good for the world of golf!!!




2005-09-27 @ 21:57
Comment from: Norman [Visitor]
3 young US golfers dominating. Now that would be a YAWN.

It won't happen, the US never dominate a sport for long.

Other countries will overtake (that's if the US ever actually reach the forefront).
2005-09-28 @ 18:35
Comment from: Norman [Visitor]
Arnie said
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She will never win a PGA tour event, nor will she ever really compete for one. She will someday scrape by and make a cut in a PGA tour event, probably the B.C. Open or some garbage field like that.
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Whether she will compete for a PGA tour event, I don't know, I wouldn't be so sure that she won't like you.
As regards spraping a cut in a "garbage event". She nearly made the cut (one shot) in the Sony Open which is certainly not a garbage event.

In the same event, Ernie Els won it (heard of him). Davis Love finished high up as did Vijay Singh (perhaps you've heard of him).
So I think she'll make the cut in decent events. Winning is another matter but the not knowing, makes it anything but a YAWN!!!!
2005-09-28 @ 18:40
Comment from: Jim Nugent [Visitor]
Chris, here's a wager. I bet you $1000 Michelle Wie wins on the LPGA tour at an earlier age than Paula Creamer did.

If you take me up, then at least you put your money where your mouth is. If you don't, that tells us what your true beliefs really are.

2005-09-29 @ 09:35
Comment from: arnie [Visitor]
Norman said:

"It won't happen, the US never dominates a sport for long."

Yeah, the US hasn't dominated any sports for the past century, have they? Norman, do you live on Mars?

Regarding golf, domination is always fleeting, and I was referring to the next few years/decade. I would be willing to bet that once Wie, Pressel and Creamer are all pro, they will each win repeatedly each year. When you add that up, it will be domination for the U.S. Much like the Koreans enjoyed a few years back when many of their golfers were in their young prime.

By the way, you better watch out, the US will soon be one of the world's top teams in *gasp* soccer. I for one hate the sport, but I think it is going to be really funny when the U.S. finally reaches the upper echelon. It's going to really rub a lot of people the wrong way. Just look at Mexico's response to the recent loss to the U.S.
2005-09-29 @ 12:47
Comment from: Norman [Visitor]
Arnie said:
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Yeah, the US hasn't dominated any sports for the past century, have they? Norman, do you live on Mars?
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Well you haven't actually mentioned a sport in which they have dominated have you????
Maybe you refer to American football. Great achievement that.
The only other one I can think of is basketball which is primarily an American sport anyway.
As regards soccer, most Europeans are really hoping the US do get better at soccer because it will be good for the game. But they won't be winning the world cup anytime soon, that's for sure.

I agree that it looks like those 3 girls can win a few each year on the LPGA, but it doesn't always work out as it appears. And don't forget Annika is still the best!!!!
.... and in my opinion, Michelle may be better than Annika's best in about 5-8 years time, but Creamer and Pressel may never reach that level.
.... the good thing for those girls is that Annika won't be at her best anymore in 7-8 years time.
2005-09-29 @ 14:04
Comment from: Jeff [Visitor]
Yah, the US only dominate sports that they play by themselves.
2005-09-29 @ 15:47
Comment from: Jeff [Visitor]
Paula Creamer is the best.
All the others are rubbish.

Paula has the looks and she is the only one who can play golf.

Annika is finished.
Michelle is over-rated.
Pressel probably won't even become a pro.

Paula will dominate the LPGA for many years to come. Then when she's on top she will probably enter some men's events and she will do better than Michelle and probably win one in her 2nd year on the PGA tour. She'll definetely qualify for the Masters and she might even win a major someday.
2005-09-29 @ 15:58
Comment from: Mark Nessmith [Visitor]
>" Yah, the US only dominate sports that they play by themselves."

So, can someone name me a country that has "dominated" any one sport? Now, please don't get too esoteric - sumo wrestling, bass fishing, curling and the like don't count. (Sorry, fat Japanese guys, rednecks and Norway, they just don't!) So: Let's hear it? Can someone give me any example?

USA in baseball - perhaps, but the bigs have long been peppered with latin players, and the Little League World Series has been won by teams from around the globe.

USA in American football - well, duh. But as Jeff alluded to, the U.S. is pretty much the only team to play it.

USA in basketball - Definitely, end of story. But again, this is a uniquely American creation, for what that's worth.

Any country in soccer - So who has "dominated" this sport over the last 50 years? Germany? England? Brazil? Italy? And how the hell would you even judge? Only by World Cup victories? Or by pro team domination (Real Madrid and Manchester United come to mind)? But remember, pro teams around the world are all filled with many foreign players.

Any country in tennis - So who has "dominated" this sport over the last 50 years? The U.S.? Stefi Graf and the other Germans? Martina Navratilova and the other Czechoslovaks? Bjorn Borg and the other .... where's he from again? Aww, who'm I trying to fool, I hate tennis.

The US in boxing - certainly you could make an argument that Americans have dominated at the heavyweight level, but the lower weightclasses have always been filled with scrappy bastards from all over the world.

Canada in hockey - What about the Russians or Swedes? What about the Czechs who won the world championship in 1996, 99, 00 and 01, not to mention the Olypic gold in 98?

What about the US in auto racing - Sorry NASCAR fans, there are a lot of F1 stars from all over the world who could claim dominance as well.

So, what is it, arnie? Norman? Jeff? Someone give me an example of one country "dominating" a sport.
2005-09-29 @ 16:17
Comment from: Jeff [Visitor]
Norway have dominated fly fishing.

Britain has dominated snooker.

Korea has dominated table tennis.

Ireland has dominated Gaelic Football.

Australia has dominated Aussie Rules Football.

Scotland have dominated haggis hammering.

Britain has dominated bowels.

2005-09-29 @ 18:18
Comment from: The stupid 14 year old :) [Visitor]
Jeff, you have to be kidding. I'm a big supporter of women's golf and women's sports in general, but Annika winning a men's major? It will be a long time before any female will win a men's event, let alone a major.
2005-09-29 @ 20:51
Comment from: Jeff [Visitor]
Who ever said anything about Annika winning a mens major?
If you read my post you'll see I said that Paula would win a mens event some day and MAY even win a major.
2005-09-30 @ 16:16
Comment from: cw [Visitor]
She will never be another Annika..
2005-09-30 @ 16:25
Comment from: Jeff [Visitor]
No of course not.
Paula will far exceed Annika's achievements. She'll win more tournaments than Annika next season and from then on Paula will start to break all the records.
2005-09-30 @ 17:22
Comment from: Patrick [Visitor]
Jeff said:
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Paula Creamer is the best.
All the others are rubbish.

Paula has the looks and she is the only one who can play golf.

Annika is finished.
Michelle is over-rated.
Pressel probably won't even become a pro.

Paula will dominate the LPGA for many years to come. Then when she's on top she will probably enter some men's events and she will do better than Michelle and probably win one in her 2nd year on the PGA tour. She'll definetely qualify for the Masters and she might even win a major someday.
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Jeff..you cant be serious...you think that everyone besides Paula is rubbish? You must be related to Paula, because no one in their right mind would rank Paula above Annika, and go out of their way saying anyone other than Paula is rubbish.

Paula will not win a PGA tour event; I doubt she will be able to contend. She is VERY short (yardage), and she is not powerful enough (i.e. shredding the rough of a PGA event) to play a PGA event.

Jeff...please tell me you're kidding. What about Christie Kerr, Natalie Gulbis, Pressel, Wie?????? TELL ME YOU'RE JOKING!
2005-10-01 @ 01:01
Comment from: Jim Coulthard [Visitor]
Anything Michelle can do Paula can do better. No she can't. Yes she can. No she can't. Yes she can. I think Jeff is just taking this argument a few steps further than Chris. I have talked in a similar fashion t Jeff about Wie--but Paula playing on the PGA is an interesting touch. Paula seems to be average in yardage and she was somewhat longer today. I could see Paula playing on the PGA before Morgan Pressel--but, yes..I suspect that Jeff was doing something resembling kidding. I don't think he'd be willing to put any of these predictions to the bet. She might win more tournaments next year than Annika--but I seriously doubt it.
2005-10-01 @ 01:30
Comment from: Jeff [Visitor]
Okay. I was joking!!!!
I do like Paula Creamer a lot but I am trying to show how stupid Chris, and some other posters such as Shanks are, in thinking that Paula is walking on water and Michelle is useless.

I'm just taking there silly argument to the next level to show how stupid they actually sound.

I believe Paula will win at least a couple next year, but not surpass Annika. I think Michelle will break through sooner or later. She'll probably win next year but I wouldn't bet on it, due to the fact that she will be playing so few LPGA tournaments.

I think Michelle is very sensible in her career path. She is choosing all kinds of tournaments, against all kinds of players, on all kinds of different courses. This will probably delay her first victory and future early victories, but at the end of the day it will help her game, and help her win more in the long term.
2005-10-01 @ 14:40
Comment from: Jeff [Visitor]
Paula Creamer will win the Samsung.

Paula Creamer will win nearly every every on the LPGA next season.

Paula Creamer will win lots of PGA tournaments.

Then Paula Creamer will win the mens grand slam.

And oh yah, Paula Creamer has great legs.
2005-10-01 @ 16:19
Comment from: Patrick [Visitor]
now that's more like it! =D
2005-10-02 @ 04:55
Comment from: Jim Nugent [Visitor]
"Yah, the US only dominate sports that they play by themselves." That's why the U.S. nearly always wins the most medals at the Olympics, hunh?

Actually, the U.S. dominates practically every sport it takes seriously.

Chris Baldwin: I'm still waiting to hear from you on the bet I proposed. If you really believe Wie is over-hyped, this is your chance to prove it. So far, looks like a case of more mouth than substance.
2005-10-04 @ 04:36
Comment from: bruce erikson [Visitor]
Gee and I guess losing the basketball gold in the Olympics was just a dream huh?
2005-10-04 @ 09:33
Comment from: Cathy [Visitor]
10//5/05 Michelle Wie Turns Pro!
Let the girl go and enjoy her life! So what if she has talent, so what if she beats Creamer, so what if she loses to Creamer, so what if she signed for $10 million with Nike and Sony. The girl can play, she's only 16, don't be a hater.
2005-10-05 @ 20:51
Comment from: Jim Nugent [Visitor]
Bruce, the U.S. has won every single Olympic hoops gold but two, I think. If that is not domination, nothing is. In fact, name me a sport any nation has had more success in on the international stage.
2005-10-08 @ 09:58
Comment from: Norman [Visitor]
WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.
but basketball is pretty much an American sport anyway.
USA has a head start. Other nations are trying to catch up now, but it had been a main US sport for years.
2005-10-09 @ 19:08
Comment from: Jim Nugent [Visitor]
The U.S. has dominated international sports more than any other nation in history. Again look at the Olympics. The U.S. almost aways wins the most medals. When it doesn't, it is second. Are you going to claim the Olympics are just sports the U.S. plays itself?





2005-10-12 @ 06:10

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