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Comment from: William K. Wolfrum [Member] Email
While I admit it wounds me to see the QB that led my beloved Steelers to the Super Bowl be injured, this is a much bigger issue.

It's called freedom.

Sure, Chris, we could all live in your perfect world: A nanny state of endless rules and regulations where the government controls our every move. But people like Ben Roethlisberger and myself choose to make our own decisions, control our own destiny.

It's called freedom, something Ben Roethlisberger and I believe in. The freedom to live our lives, and make our own mistakes.

It's the American way. The old American way, mind you. The one where freedom was cherished and republicans believed in small government.

Ben and I believe in freedom. We believe in America. What do you believe in Chris?


2006-06-14 @ 09:13
Comment from: jaypee [Visitor]
Totally beside the point WKW. C. Baldwin never said Roethlisberger did not have the right to ride without a helmet (...however, a valid licence is kind of required for everybody...), he simply said it was a stupid decision. Which it is, specially with as much to loose in a simple accident.
2006-06-14 @ 10:47
Comment from: Ford [Visitor]
My sources tell me that post accident Ben also believes in the Easter Bunny, Santa Clause, the man on the moon and that Anna Nicole-Smith is the President of the United States.

Why is it that professional athletes have such a hard time giving up the, "it won't happen to me" and "I'm invincible" way of thinking? Most of us grew out of that line of thinking when were out of high school.
2006-06-14 @ 13:36
Comment from: bubbabooey [Visitor]
Hey Baldwin isn't this a golf site? Also I guess you didn't watch Ben have three great performances against the 1,2, and 3 seeds in the AFC playoffs. Hope you aren't lonely in the blogs' stupidity ward.
2006-06-14 @ 16:30
Comment from: Chris "going bald"win [Visitor]
First of all Chris, have a little class. The man is in the hospital and your making jokes about him "skidding" almost to his death. You aptly showed that you know nothing about football when comparing Ben to Joey Harrington. Wow John Daly is an idiot, lets try to bail him out by comparing him to Ben. This was so poorly written I would assume by the time that this post is finished you will be fired. Go back to talking about golf carts and caddys and leave the atheletes who actually participate in a sport with a bit of risk to the real writers.
2006-06-14 @ 18:07
Comment from: David Crawford [Visitor]
Your sir are an idiot! As the previous poster stated, Ben had three other oustanding performances in the playoffs. I guess those didn't count. Ben is foolish even selfish for his actions, but attacking his performance in the SB shows that you are classless and unbelievably mad that the Steelers beat what ever team you were a bandwagon member of. As for Steelers fans being bandwagon fans. You have not been to Pittburgh then, we love em year after year reguardless of how many Lombardi trophies they won. That's 5 by the way. And your team?
2006-06-14 @ 18:19
Comment from: Pragmatist [Visitor]
WKW's stirring and thoroughly ridiculous paean to rugged individualism and The Way Things Used To Be aside, this isn't remotely a freedom issue. It's an issue of legal responsibility. Roethlisberger was legally obligated to remove himself from physically risky situations as part of a legally binding contract of employment. That means that, despite his glorious American heritage and conservative values, he was not in fact free at all to 'control his own destiny'. If he was just any other young testosterone-crazed lunkhead, he would have that freedom, but the conditions of his employment remove that. His unlimited freedom is also limited by the entirely reasonable law that dictates that he must have a motorcycle license to ride a motorcycle on public roads.

William- get your head out of the hazy clouds of silly platitudes and retreaded ideological slogans. Your silly attempts to turn this event into an ideological battle over fundamental freedoms is asinine. Legally, he did not have the freedom to do what he was doing, and he entered into that contract freely and with total recognition of the terms. To violate them and harm himself was an act of stupidity and hubris.
2006-06-14 @ 18:27
Comment from: Eric [Visitor]
Are you kidding me? You are a douche.. a filthy douche that should be shot. Bandwagon fans?? seriously man... i hope our "bandwagon" runs you over
2006-06-14 @ 22:39
Comment from: Doug [Visitor]
Ben was not stupid. He KNOWS riding a motorcycle is risky. It's freedom of choice. It's such an important right that only true motorcyclists can understand it.

Hasn't everybody here heard thunder and still finished out the hole, or just kept on playing. hmmm ... risky. maybe even stupid ???
2006-06-15 @ 08:06
Comment from: What's that smell? [Visitor]
Pittsburg Steeler fans smell really bad. I'm not sure it's the stink from their run down city, the abandoned steel mills or maybe the fact that they just don't bathe as much as the rest of us. Whatever it is please go back to the Rocky Bleir fan sites and stop stinking up our golf site.
2006-06-15 @ 09:08
Comment from: Pragmatist [Visitor]
Doug says: "Ben was not stupid. He KNOWS riding a motorcycle is risky. It's freedom of choice."

He did not have that freedom of choice, for the reasons I outlined. His contract limited him, legally, from making the choice to put himself at risk. You have that freedom of choice, because you (unlike Ben) still had that freedom. Ben voluntarily chose to accept employment that limited his freedom to do whatever he chose. If he simply can't live without that freedom, then he shouldn't have chosen to sign that contract and accept that job. (Though one wonders what else he'd be qualified to do, but I digress.) Regardless of whether he was a "true motorcyclist" or not, that's the reality. It's really not a difficult concept to understand.
2006-06-15 @ 12:04
Comment from: Pragmatist who has common sense [Visitor]
You are completely misinformed. He had a letter of warning from the Steelers that it "may" put his contract in jeopardy if he continued to ride without a helmet. The letter was intended to only put it on record that they had a problem with it. No place on his contract mentions that he is forbidden to ride without the helmet.
2006-06-15 @ 15:45
Comment from: Streetr [Visitor]
Hey jackass, there is NOTHING bandwagon about the SteelerNation. TRUE BLUE fans that support their team better than any fanbase on the planet. Read it and weep.
2006-06-15 @ 17:08
Comment from: David Crawford [Visitor]
BTW: He has the right to be cocky...to a point. Have you seen how many records he has broken and set?
No other QB in history has done what he has done. I think he can be given a little allowance for cockyness. I'm sure if you had back to back hole in ones in one round of golf you'd be a little proud of the accomplishment. Just go back to Seattle and cry in your Starbucks cup you Seahags fan.
2006-06-15 @ 17:37
Comment from: Pragmatist [Visitor]
"No place on his contract mentions that he is forbidden to ride without the helmet."

Reheaaally now. What about the standard clause in his contract prohibiting off-field activities that pose "a significant risk of personal injury."? Or are we living in a parallel universe in which an activity that could result in a head whacking a windshield at 40mph somehow does not constitute a serious personal injury risk?

2006-06-15 @ 17:47
Comment from: Richard Smith [Visitor]
It's the first time I have ever been to this blog..why would I EVER want to read ramblings about golf anyway? I like real sports, thank you.
But I just had to comment about this guy's comments: The rest of the world (read: anyone who is unlucky or stupid enough to NOT be a Steeler Fan)has always been jealous of the Steelers. It was that way when they were the first NFL team to win FOUR Super Bowls and now that they have won #5 the jealousy has returned in full force.
The best this guy can do is compare Big Ben to John Daly? That is hilarious!! ooohhh...HOW insulting!
Steeler Nation listen up: these chowderheads are jealous, narrow minded LOSERS! I wouldn't be surprised if this guy is a Bungals or Browns or Raiders fan. But more than likely, he doesn't like or understand football. He just likes...golf?
So forget about him. He'll come up with some stupid, juvenile comment. He,no doubt, has lots of time to ponder these things as he tries to hit the little ball past the windmills and giant plastic dinosaurs.
2006-06-15 @ 18:44
Comment from: Saskia [Visitor]
Hey Mr. "What's that smell?" - you haven't been to the 'Burgh lately, have you? This is one of the BEST cities in the world, and it is great we have a world class team to support. And even if you visited the steel town in its smoggy days, I bet you still wanted your steel products, didn't ya? Those who worked hard in this city and made all that 'dirty steel' for you deserve more than your sarcasm. Grow up.
And as far as Big Ben, which one of you has not made a stupid mistake in your young lives? While I agree, he had alot more at stake than most young people I know, he still is a young adult. It just happens that he is so talented in football that the whole world knows about his goof up.
I think the whole bunch of you should look back and think about your mistakes. They may not have been this grand, and yours may not have made front of all sports pages, but they were stupid. Disappointed, yes, we all are. You aren't a football fan if you didn't enjoy watching him. I bet he thinks alot about what happened in the next few weeks. The last thing he needs is all this crap from folks who haven't looked past the end of their own upturned noses.
2006-06-15 @ 19:42
Comment from: Hoyt Decker [Visitor]
Good lord, you Steelers fans are more wacked out than that Mike Webster loon!

Might be the Steel City, but your Roethlisberger numbskull is going to be living in Iron Lung City for a while. So get used to being scraped out of the Raiders' cleats like so much stepped in dog crap. Ha ha!
2006-06-16 @ 05:31
Comment from: TonyD [Visitor]
Brilliant comparison moron. Ben made 1 mistake and learned from it while Daly continues to embarrass himself on a daily basis.
Steelers fans... band wagon? Do you even undertand that saying?
Ben has played in 31 NFL games and won 24... that is better than any QB ever? Did he play great in the SB, no? How about the playoff games leading up to it?
At the end of the day, broken face and all Ben will come out a winner because he learned from his mistake. You will be a 2-bit blog hack who never made it as a journalist.
2006-06-16 @ 15:02
Comment from: LT [Visitor]
What the heck are you talking about? You clearly don't know anything about football...or the real world.

Stick to golf moron...not that you're any good at writing about that either.
2006-06-16 @ 16:21
Comment from: Steve [Visitor]
Bandwagon? You are utterly clueless.

Who do you like? (Besides little boys that is)

You show me a more dedicated and loyal group of fans than Steelers fans. Maybe Packers fans...but no one else.
2006-06-16 @ 16:26
Comment from: Richard Smith [Visitor]
I know that this is a golf blog but I just have to say something to "Hoyt Decker"...
The Raiders???? The Oakland Raiders? I didn't know they were still in the NFL?! Think they'll break even and actually go 8-8 this year?
The Raiders! Woo hoo!That's even funnier than the whole John Daly comment!
Thanks for brightening my day!
2006-06-16 @ 17:55
Comment from: King of All Indians [Visitor]
You are all bitter because the Steelers have just STARTED winning Super Bowls, and all you can do is issue cheap shots that do not change the simple fact that the WORLD CHAMPS will run all over your sorry teams.

Jealous bitches...
2006-06-16 @ 18:13
Comment from: Boo-hoo-nobody-cares-about-me Baldman [Visitor]
You're just jealous. When a man like Ben playing in big sport, winning the admiration of millions far and near, stupid little silly man like you writing these short bitter words in the world's most boring sport's site. Shame on you, and shame on your parents for raising a shithead like you. Of course, Ben made mistake. And so do we. He is young and was careless. But he said he learned from it. Read the news, you moron.
2006-06-17 @ 10:40
Comment from: dscull [Visitor]
Mr. Baldwin,

Thank you for your insightful article, which must have taken an extraordinary amount of time and effort to research. I commend your willingness to put forth a set of opinions so far from the socially accepted norms of deceny, and without resorting to those standards of logic or restraint by which so many trained journalists find themselves fettered.

I look forward to your future work, which will no doubt include articles mocking cancer victims, extolling the virtues of drug addiction, and slandering the members of various cities, nations, and ethnic groups which present themselves as easy targets of the moment.

Yours in appreciation,


2006-06-17 @ 14:29
Comment from: Doc [Visitor]
Just the title of this article shows your maturity level. Dumb butt. Do you go and giggle with your 2nd grade friends after writing it?
2006-06-17 @ 21:40
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2006-06-18 @ 07:40
Comment from: kendall [Visitor]
people. c'mon. you're all giving this man what he wants. he is a golf writer. He is bored. He has no one to read and comment on his articles. So he thinks that by bashing Ben everyone will see him and he will be noticed. We all see what happens when this country gives an idiot an opinion. We get writers like Chris Baldwin, and presidents like the Bush family.
2006-06-18 @ 10:00
Comment from: Mary [Visitor]
Ok, Ben, John Daly, Micky Mantle? Why don't you throw in Anna Nichole & Shaq & talk about how disgusting their orgy would be....that's about the maturity level this article was written on & would make just as much sense considering you're not even comparing people within the same sport! Stick to golf man, you're way out of your apropos genre.
2006-06-18 @ 10:11
Comment from: Neal [Visitor]
I want to congratulate you for the intelligence and foresight to get in your two cents on such an obvious target. I applaud you for your courage to go out of the restrictions of simply writing on topics pertaining to golf to take an easy dig at the face of a team you obviously hate.

Nevermind the irony of you calling out Steelers fans for hopping on the bandwagon while you joyously join the rest of the media in attacking someone who is seriously injured. I guess the term bandwagon jumping only applies to situations where you deem fit.

I found it especially brilliant the way you were able to compare a serious gambling issue to someone riding a motorcycle. And on top of that, you compare Daly's ability to hit a ball standing still to the same attributes required to hit a 91 MPH slider like Mickey Mantle. You have taken ridiculous comparisons and make it your own art form.

Your inside wisdom and understanding of professional athletes is amazing, even considering you cover participants of a sport which holds no danger, no economic disparity and no seriously negative media attention. It's obvious your background in such a difficult reporting job makes you overqualified to give us your opinion on issues of other sports. We appreciate you taking time out of your schedule to make sure pompous, rich, white men everywhere have another reason to think golf is an athletic endeavor, and not just a competition for other rich, white men everywhere.

On behalf of SteelerNation, once again, congratulations on your inappropriate, callous, shallow and extreme arrogant take on this whole situation. I knew reading your thoughts on it was going to be infinitely more satisfying than reading the same thing two days earlier from an actual journalist. I don't know where we would be without you.
2006-06-18 @ 12:52
Comment from: Patrick Gallagher [Visitor]
2006-06-21 @ 20:37
Comment from: Dave Doty [Visitor]
So beating the 1,2 and 3 seeds in the AFC and #1 seed of the NFC in the Super Bowl with 122 Playoff passer rating just wasn't good enough for you. We are sorry. By teh way how did Peyton do with a "better team"?

Yes, it is hard to be humble when your team has the best winning percentage of all NFL teams in Cowher era.

Yes we love our team - SO WHAT!

Yes, Ben has made better decisions in his life but I think a closer analogy is to driving car down the road at 80 miles. Did you ever do that? Of course you have - you idiot.

Your comments where unprofessional, sophomoric and cheap.
2006-06-22 @ 14:15
Comment from: Keith Akers [Visitor]
Why do we as Steelers fans even reply to such ridiculous articles written by this big teeth, receeding hairline
fairy. He's nothing more than a lazy A S S- golfing F A G.
2006-06-23 @ 06:07
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Was Big Ben at the OVAC game in wheelin?
2006-07-23 @ 23:16
Comment from: Hoyt Decker [Visitor]
Ha! Hey, Steeler dorks, you gotta be walking around in a Webster-esque daze after that whuppin' at the hands of the Raiders yesterday! LOL. A Raider win, I might add, that I Hoyt Decker predicted back in mid June (see http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/chris.baldwin/2006/06/14/ben_roethlisberger_gives_john_daly_compa#c22918). I have a tube of Chap Stick ready whenever you want to plant that kiss on my rear, Richard Smith.
2006-10-30 @ 03:46

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