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Paula Creamer now 5 times better than Michelle Wie, plus she doesn't cheat like NASCAR snakes
Monday February 19, 2007 | 00:20:22 291 words, 8714 views
In a weekend when NASCAR’s Skoal-smacking band of cheaters held their version of the Super Bowl - only shirts and showers are optional - it’s only fitting that Paula Creamer won for the fifth time in her young professional career. After all, Creamer is the anti-jet-fuel-sneaking racing lout. This noble athlete once turned herself in for having an extra club after she got home from a tournament. When Creamer found out, there was no way anyone else ever would without her saying something. That’s honor, something that’s obviously missing in the grease pit of American sports. You can’t help but be happy when this kind of athlete comes through with a win. Creamer won the LPGA’s season opening tournament with the help of a gutsy 40-foot birdie putt on the second to last hole. Now, Creamer has five more wins - three LPGA titles and two pro tournaments Ws in Japan - than Michelle Wie has in more than four years of playing pro events. You know, the star who’s revolutionizing golf when she’s not tripping over. This brings me back to a time when one lone brilliant mind declared: Paula Creamer better than Michelle Wie now, will always be better than Wie. This goes back a few years when TravelGolf.com’s Tim McDonald was still pimping the Winless Wonder as the great new force in golf with a gusto unlike anything even Wie author/dominatrix Jennifer Mario’s done since. It’s nice to be so right. But it’s nicer to root for an athlete with Creamer’s convictions. Not to mention one who can make a 40-foot putt under pressure rather than gag on 4-footers down the stretch. Then again, maybe Wie might want to call up a NASCAR cheating … er, crew … chief for some advice. Comments:
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Let's be honest Chris. You like Creamer for one reason and one reason alone, her body.
She has the best butt in womens sports and probably close to the best legs as well. Making up stories about admiring her integrity and that kind of thing is just trying to cover over the truth. She might not have the best looking face but her body, more than makes up for it. So Chris, if it makes you feel better, make up story about admiring her athletisism, but most people will know you just want to sleep with her and that's what it's about.
By the way Chris, there is nothing wrong with wanting to sleep with her, she is 20 years old, and if she lets you in the sack with her, good luck and fair play to you on that.
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Chris,
One slight correction. It would be more accurate to say that Paula is infinitely beter than Chubby Bubbles. It's basic math that fives times nothing is still nothing. I get a big charge out of reading the posts in answer to your blog of July 24, 2005. Most of Bubbles' defenders then seem to have given up on her. However, we still have June, who has retrogressed from his former incoherent posts to the one-letter nonsense that he posted here. On the blog that is censored, a new and daffier Wie Warrior with the handle of Vale came up with the answer for Bubbles' woes of late. According to this genius,all she needs to do is take five or six strokes per round off her score by improving her putting, and start hitting 300 yard drives down the middle of the fairway instead of the "ruff"(sic). Where else can a Wie skeptic get that sort of entertainment?
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Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Stanley,
You really should stop that self-abuse. An old wives' tale used to say it could make you go blind.
What idiots like Alex don't realise is that Paula Creamer is 20 years old. She got her first victory at 18 years and 9 months old.
If Michelle Wie gets a victory before the age of 18 years and 9 months, she will have proved better than Creamer by that age. In fact, Wie's far better performance than Creamer in the majors has gone a long way to proving that already. The majors are where the real golf is played. Just ask Tiger, Phil, Annika or Karrie. As of yet, Creamer has not performed in the majors.
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
More rationalizing of Bubbles' flops by another Brit genius, Johnny N.
To these Wie-wee's, Bubbles will be the greatest if she NEVER wins a professional tournament , or if she never plays another round due to her never-ending "injuries."
Alex,
Paula had a wrist injury for a large part of the 2006 season, Wie's injury is fairly recent and is unlikely to last as long as Paula's did.
RESULTS IN MAJORS:
Up to the end of 2006, Michelle played 10 majors, Paula played 9 majors. The results of those majors: Michelle Wie: 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 9th, 13th, 14th, 23rd, 26th, 39th. Paula Creamer: 3rd, 13th, 15th, 16th, 19th, 19th, 22nd, 24th, 45th, 49th, missed cut. Paula Creamer has not contended for a single major. In the major where she came 3rd, Michelle Wie was 2nd in that event, and Annika was an easy winner. Apart from that, Paula's results have been good, but far less good than those of Michelle Wie. Majors are what is important. While Paula has not learned how to compete on that stage, she will just be another good player, unlike Michelle Wie who is an outstanding major performer.
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Well, there you have it folks, more words of wisdom by that great somnambulist, Johnny N.
Paula Creamer, who just won another tournament a few days ago to go with her two other LPGA wins and two victories in Japan is nothing more than a fair-to-middling journeyman golfer. BUT, Bubbles , who has never won anything, is "an outstanding major performer." Keep it up, Johnny N, it doesn't get any better than this. The entertainment value of these threads is priceless.
Alex,
If that were true, you would be in trouble long ago. By the way, it is surprising that there was barely any gallery out to watch Paula Creamer. There was about 100 spectators there. There was about 300 marshals marshalling the 100 spectators which looked very funny. It goes to show that if Wie isn't in a tournament, the lpga are in trouble. They should let her play more tournaments, because the majority of spectators rather looking at Wie for some reason. Admit it, if Wie were there, there would have been thousands at it. Why don't the people recognise what a good body Paula Creamer has.
Alex,
Are you denying that Michelle is an outstanding major performer? Please clarify. Also, are you denying that Michelle is a far better major performer than Paula Creamer? Please clarity.
June, Stanley and Johnny N all belong together ZZZZZZZZZZZZ winning means nothing.....ha
Winning is the measure of a golfer not how close in any tournament, Major or otherwise. The LPGA is in great condition and does not to be waiting around for another failure by MW. Clearly Paula has been more successful. Let MW start winning then and then maybe there can be a competition.
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Johnny N,
You've got more nerve than the guy who ate the first oyster. You bend yourself into a pretzel with your convoluted and illogical conclusions to convince yourself and others of the correctness of your unsustainable positions, and then you have the gall to ask other to clarify what should be obvious to anybody with the brains that God gave a goose. Johnny N, I don't know why I am bothering to tell you this; I guess it's because hope springs eternal. In medal play, the golfers are competing against the course, NOT against any particular other player. The object is to WIN the tournament. I repeat, to WIN. Paula has WON several times as a pro,her latest WIN as a pro coming only two days ago. Bubbles HAS NOT WON as a pro, or as an amateur in a pro tournament. These are the facts and all the consulting of dreambooks and ouija boards won't change them. But keep on trying. We Wie skeptics can always use a few laughs.
Alex,
You are really a piece of work; did the girls pick on you in the playground or something? It’s not nice to twist someone else’s comments around so you can take another one of your childish shots at Michelle. I was making reference to Michelle’s consistently high level of play and that “if” she could manage to learn how to use her putter and “if” she could learn how to put her drives into the fairway, she could end up winning instead of just finishing near the top. But not wanting sound as if I were another Wie bashing idiot, I simply stated in more of a manner of fact form, like: “Just imagine what she might be able to do on the LPGA even if her tee to green game never improves, but figures out how to knock off five or six strokes per round putting. Couple that with the potential of a 300 plus yard drive that actually lands in the fairway instead of the ruff.” Now everyone knows she is far from the best putter in golf and her drives landing anywhere but in the fairway is legendary. That only leaves her iron game, which must be spectacular to make up for the rest of her shortcomings. So why is it so hard to imagine that if Michelle can figure out how to fix these two areas of her game that she can’t start winning instead of just finishing near the top? Am I wrong about the putting problem or driving accuracy or is it that she is still making all the money that seems to drive you insane. Have you nothing better to do but hop from one web blog to another taking cheap shots at a teenage millionaire. I just stumbled across this blog and there you are again, how many sites do you spill your hatred at?
Comment by Joe R:
The LPGA is in great condition and does not to be waiting around for another failure by MW. ______________ If the lpga were in such great condition, then why were there only about 100 spectators watching Paula come down the stretch. Her and Morgan Pressel, two of the most hyped names in the lpga tour were in the last group along with the reigning British Womens Open champion, yet people didn't bother watching them. At the prize ceremony to Paula Creamer, the applause was like there were about 10 people clapping. Perhaps Paula's parents, her caddy and a few sponsors. The lpga tour is not in great shape by any means. If you watched Michelle Wie in any 2006 lpga event she played the crowds were huge, and not just for the majors. Michelle and to a lesser extent Annika are the ones who draw the crowds to lpga events. Even Natalie Gulbis micro-mini skirt wasn't enough to bring the fans to the event.
Alex said:
One slight correction. It would be more accurate to say that Paula is infinitely beter than Chubby Bubbles. It's basic math that fives times nothing is still nothing. ------------------------ Alex, that is a well thought out comment. Most uncharacteristic, but actually coming up with a point is good progress. Hopefully that clear thought won't have done any permanent damage to you, since you are not used to it. By the way, the Japanese titles are of very little significance. Ai Miyazato has won 11 japanese ladies titles, but still failed to win on the lpga tour yet.
Right now Wie doesn't play on any tour full-time. As a result she's able to focus on and prepare for the LPGA majors. The one exception last year was the British Open when she was playing the 2nd consecutive week. It was there she finished 26th. I recall Johnny Miller comment on how long she had been playing at the Newport Country Club in preparation for the US Open, "If she was here any longer, she would have to start paying taxes."
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Vale,
Are you wrong? Yes, you are. About virtually everything. Just a helpful hint, Vale. Try being a little more brief. Your long-winded rants make no sense. A shorter one might be easier to comprehend. Notice I said "might."
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Johnny N,
You've very conveniently changed the subject from winning tournaments to the sparse crowd at the trophy presentation at the SBS. I really can't blame you since your position on Bubbles' lack of wins is untenable.
Vale,
Bubbles doesn't hit 300-plus yard drives, unless you're talking about downhill and downwind. Alex, Speaking of Wiemen jumping ship like rats, what ever happened to Kimo? He used to write quasi-philosophical expositions in which he waxed romantic about the Bubbles and related nonsense. Perhaps he experienced a breakdown and is now receiving Kimo-therapy. Or maybe he is off writing children's books.
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Here's an honest question for all the Wie Warrior invaders here:
Exactly what is the nature of Lard's latest "injury?" In fact, what is the nature of her previous "injury?' What is the prognosis for these "injuries?" All you boys seem to have the inside track to all things Bubbles. How about some information and predictions?
Comment by Blazer:
Right now Wie doesn't play on any tour full-time. As a result she's able to focus on and prepare for the LPGA majors. The one exception last year was the British Open when she was playing the 2nd consecutive week. __________________________ Actually Blazer, for the lpga championship, Michelle spent the previous Monday at a 36 hole US Open qualifer, while the other lpga championship players were practicing at the course venue. Michelle took Tuesday completely off from golf to rest, so she only had the Wednesday to practice for that event. Yet Michelle still contended for the lpga championship title.
Alex,
Can you believe that Charles Howell was so foolish yesterday to actually win a tournament when he had a chance to add to his impressive total of 9 career second-place finishes...Doesn't he know that 2nd place finishes and top 5's are actually better than wins. According to MENSA members Johhny N. and Stanley a resume filled with near misses is far more impressive than one filled with actual wins. This dizzying logic explains how a golfer with 0 worldwide wins(Michelle Wie) can be considered a superior player to one with 5 worldwide wins(Paula Creamer). It's a wonder the entire golf world has not adopted this line of reasoning...I for one think they should and we can all start to discuss when/if Tiger will finally surpass Jack's Major total, no not 18 major victories, but his 19 runner-up finishes. Stanley--You are trying way to hard...ease up on the Paula Creamer is so hot comments, we get it already, you are so totally into chicks(wink,wink).
Comment from Alex:
Here's an honest question for all the Wie Warrior invaders here: Exactly what is the nature of Lard's latest "injury?" In fact, what is the nature of her previous "injury?' ___________________________ Very good Alex, you have conceeded on the issue of Michelle being better than Paula at performing on the elite stage of womens golf, which are the majors, and decided to change the subject. Your conceeding on that issue is accepted Alex. So how about the other issue. Michelle's injury is supposed to take about 4 to 6 weeks to heal. Like with all injuries of that nature, they assess it as it heals and then her doctors tell her when it will be okay to play golf with that wrist again. Making predictions about speed of healing would just be guessing.
Ford,
Nobody in the blog said a 2nd place is better than on win. The point that was made is that majors are where it is at. How many majors has Tiger won? 12. How many majors has Annika won? 10. How many majors has Phil won? 3. How many majors has Ernie won? 3. These questions are easy to answer because majors are so important. Ask how many titles has Ernie won, and how many people would be able to give a correct answer? Majors are the elite level of the sport. What you should ask yourself is, why has Paula Creamer not performed up to the level of contending at the elite level of the sport?
Wow Johnny, you're out there. I was hoping to get an intelligent description of MW's injuries and what I got was the term of the healing process. Did you not understand the question??
With regard to Creamer's performance in majors vs Wie--both players are 'O'fers. Creamer has proven she can win at the professional level. MW, we have no idea.
Comment from: Alex
“Vale, Are you wrong? Yes, you are. About virtually everything.” Alex, So you disagree that Michelle needs to improve her putting skills? You seem to think she doesn’t need to learn how to drive into the fairway instead of the ruff. I’m sorry to insinuate that you were a Wie bashing idiot; I should have left out the Wie bashing part. My sincerest apologies. How’s that for brevity
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Judge Smails,
Yes, it is true that most of the old elite guard of Wie-wee's have bailed out. Nothing lately from putt4par, Norman, Jim C, or even Ghet Rheel. And yet, I sort of miss them. As illogical as they were, at times they made a modicum of sense. Their hopes for Bubbles were far-fetched, true, but for the most part , those hopes were presented with at least some semblance of reality. Not so this latest group of Wie-wee interlopers. They make no sense whatsoever. And they are proud of their cluelessness. The older group of Wie-wee's also were far more literate and much more versed in the art of expression. This gang is more entertaining, though. The Alan Cup committee is going to have difficulty arriving at a clear-cut winner of this year's cup, what with Stanley, Johhny N, and Vale among the newbies. Vale, How many times do I have to tell you? The word is spelled "rough", not "ruff."
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Chris, ***** I get a big charge out of reading the posts in answer to your blog of July 24, 2005. Most of Bubbles' defenders then seem to have given up on her. *************** Alex, I seriously doubt many of the "fans" of MW have given up on her as you say. Rather, they have stopped responding to the vintage idiocy of Alex, Chris, Judge Smails, et al.... Reading your usual comments is rather like listening to a group of 15 year old smart ass boys playing some game and throwing dumb remarks at each other.When you grow up and can respond to a post without the usual childish names and asinine remarks, mabe there will be some reasonable discussion on this Board. One really would have to wonder why you aren't a divorced man considering your opinion of women as espoused by your comments. I have to agree with Shanks remarks about you, from another blog on this site. Ciao !
Alex,
I think that this is because Bubbles' support has been whittled down to the members of the tin-foil-hat club by now.
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
putt4par,
Glad to hear that you haven't died or emigrated. However, I do think that if you haven't thrown in the towel as far as Bubbles goes, your enthusiasm has waned to a whimper. I was kind enough to your memory to say that you were fairly well versed and literate. It would have been nice if you had responded in kind. But, enough of that. p4p, what is your opinion of the future of Bubbles' career, considering the mystery surrounding her "injury?" Within six months, when do you think Bubbles will ring up that first win?
Alex,
You addressed the question to putt4parr, but to answer it, I predict Michelle Wie will win in 2007. Is that a good enough prediction?
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Johnny N,
I specifically asked "within six months." But if that is your prediction, it'll have to do. Thanks. Tell me, Johnny N, will Bubbles' win come in a "major" or one of those meaningless other events? After all, if Bubbles were to win one of those minor other LPGA tournaments, she would be no better than Paula Creamer. You wouldn't want that now, would you? BALDIE- you really would write anything just to get the attention away from yet ANOTHER CHOKE JOB BY YOUR BOY MICKELSON
Comment from: George [Visitor]
There is a subtle, but significant shift in the crazed response by the Wie Warriors to Paula's gutty victory to open the 2007 LPGA season.
Previously, the Wie Warriors would simply point out all the great things Michelle was going to do on the LPGA. We perhaps remember Jim C.'s prediction that Wie would win 2 out of 4 women's majors in 2006. Now, here's the subtle shift: We now hear about how Paula's wins in Japan don't count for anything, or how Paula has yet to win a major. The fact is, Paula is a very fine golfer, and a credit to the game. She came up through the ranks. Paula played her way onto the pro golf tour. She earned a spot on the 2005 Solheim Cup and was the sparkplug for the USA team's comeback victory. Paula did win what some folks consider the "5th major," the Evian event in France. So it's not as if Paula has not in fact beaten the world's best head to head. If you Wie Warriors want to put down Paula, feel free. But the facts are the facts: Considering that Paula took up golf relatively recently, and considering that she's quite young, winning five times, three times on the LPGA, including a big-time event such as Evian, what's best -- and classy -- is just to remember what a talented golfer Paula is. As for Michelle... If Wie does not win her first LPGA event at a younger age than Paula ... then nobody's going to care. Sony might not even care any more. -George
Alex,
You still haven’t answered the question, how can you be a dedicated Wie basher and think her putting and driving skills are just fine? Your starting to make me sound like a Wie basher for even suggesting she has a couple of major components of her game to improve. What a flip-flop. Would someone tell me why Michelle is called Bubbles? I can think of several reasons, but I honestly don’t know. If I’m a born again Wie basher, I’d really like to know why I might refer to her by that name. Seriously, good or bad, what does the Bubbles stand for? I have no idea how long it will take for MW (Bubbles) to get that first victory, but I predict her second victory will not be far behind. Being in that winners circle does a lot for your confidence. She is improving every year and you can’t improve much on her stats without being in the winner’s circle.
Johnny N.,
Actually Wie played practice rounds at the Bulle Rock Course the week prior to the US Open qualifier. ***************** Michelle Wie flew into Baltimore on Monday morning and immediately set in motion a study session of two courses that offer the most immediate challenges in her golf career. She played practice rounds Tuesday and Wednesday at Bulle Rock GC in Havre de Grace, Md., which is where the LPGA Championship will be staged next week. According to her father, B.J., Michelle was scheduled to drive yesterday from Havre de Grace to Summit for two days of play at Canoe Brook CC in Summit, N.J. -- site of the U.S. Open Sectional Qualifying -- under the watchful eye of her famed instructor, David Leadbetter. -- Boston Globe
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Vale,
Do you have a problem with reading comprehension? Perhaps you are mildly dyslexic. In any event, I do not think you are a Wie basher or anything of the sort. As for the handle of "Bubbles" that a few folks use, it is probably a reference to her "bubbly", ebullient faux exuberance that she expresses when gushing about her "sparklywatch", or how she just loves getting exemptions so she doesn't have to work for anything.
Comment from Alex:
Tell me, Johnny N, will Bubbles' win come in a "major" or one of those meaningless other events? -------------------------- Alex, The other events are not meaningless, they are just nothing when compared to majors. Each event should be judged on its merits. The Evian was a very significant victory. The other 2 lpga events were run of the mill events, and the 2 Japanese events were not very important considering Ai Miyazato has 11 japanese lpga tour victories. If you want to include Paula's Japanese victories, as you have, then she with 5 victories and Ai Miyazato with 11 victories, makes Ai over twice as good as Paula. That's the difficulty with you and your ilk, you have such difficulty understanding the relative importance of events. It is very obvious that you are new to golf and don't understand these things, but fair play for keeping up your comments on a blog, as you might learn something from more learned bloggers. --------------------------- Comment from Alex: After all, if Bubbles were to win one of those minor other LPGA tournaments, she would be no better than Paula Creamer. You wouldn't want that now, would you? ------------------------------- Any event win is nice, but great players are judged by majors. When Annika and Karrie are discussed, it is mentioned that Annika has 10 majors and Karrie has 7 majors. Also, Lorena has yet to win a major and it has rightfully been pointed out that she has to win a major to be considered great. In answer to your question, a run of the mill lpga tour win would be nice for Michelle, but a major win is where where the real business goes on.
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
George,
Yes, some of the predictions for Bubbles' miracles by the Wie Warriors were indeed glowing. Jim C's prognostications were particularly effusive. After Bubbles' swoon at the John Deere, Jimbo confidently predicted that she would come back from that debacle like gangbusters. She would definitely won the Evian and the Weetabix, and make the cut at the 84 Lumber. Since none of that came to fruition, it looks like Big Jim has gone into hiding. Of course the Wie Warriors see fit to denigrate the achievements of Paula. In their minds, victories in Japan have no significance. And even her wins on the LPGA tour don't count for much since they didn't come in "majors." But George, I'm sure you realize that all that will change if and when Bubbles finally wins anything, even if it's the Sheboygan pro-am.. I personally look forward to the day when Bubbles gets off the schneid. The craziness on these blogs will be priceless.
Bad news for the Wie Bashers, George is back on the blogs.
George, nobody said that Paula wasn't a fantastic golfer. What was said, is that those Japanese Tour victories are put into context by the large numbers of ladies who win multiple events on the Japanese tour and then fail miserably on the lpga tour. That suggests that there is quite a gap between the tours, and that does mean that Paula's 2 Japanese Tour victories are just not near a level with lpga victories. Paula's Evian victory was her best by a good way and her other 2 lpga victories were also important. However the question has been asked, why has she not performed in the majors. Why has she not truely contended down the stretch. Why is it that when she was in contention with a round and a half, or just a round to go, that she faded badly and tumbled down the leaderboard. That happened in 2006 at the Kraft when she was in contention after 2 rounds and shot 79 in round 3. It happened again at the US Open when she was in contention after 2 rounds and shot 76 in round 3. These are important questions and there is nothing wrong with asking them.
Comment from: George [Visitor]
Agreed,Alex.
My main point is the Wie Warriors have transitioned from being childish cheerleaders for Michelle to wussy whiners about Paula's championships. Again, the bottom line is the Wie Warriors now realize that if Michelle doesn't win this year or by July 2008, she would then be older than when Paula got her first win. Just think how insane the Wie Warriors would be THIS year if Birdie King hadn't holed that bunker shot at the U.S. Open and Morgan Pressel had found a way to win that tourney! But more importantly, I'm going to focus on the fact that someone as talented, resourceful, tough -- and let's say it, guys, cute -- as Paula Creamer showed that at least one of the young guns of the LPGA is back in the hunt. If Paula has managed to put those injuries in the rear view mirror, it's pretty clear that -- unlike Wie at this point -- Paula knows how to win. Only time will tell if Michelle joins Paula in the winner's circle. -George
Alex wrote:
Vale, Do you have a problem with reading comprehension? Perhaps you are mildly dyslexic. In any event, I do not think you are a Wie basher or anything of the sort. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Alex, I absolutely must be all of the above, because I still have not read one thing where you responded to the question with anything other than more attacks against me. So why don’t you come down off your hate stool and explain why my assessments were wrong about everything. So here goes one more time: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Vale, Are you wrong? Yes, you are. About virtually everything. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Alex, One more time, please answer the question as to why I am wrong about virtually everything. (I believe Michelle Wie can definitely improve her game by becoming a better putter and knocking several strokes off her game. I also stated that she would improve her scores by learning how to drive the ball into the fairway and not the “rough”.) Yes, I also believe she will start winning a “lot” of events “if” she can accomplish the above.) Alex, Thanks for the explanation of Bubbles
George,
Admitedly you aren't in Alex's league, but you do say some silly things. Of course Paula Creamer's achievements have been recognised, but the simple question has been asked. Why hasn't she done it in the majors? Is anyone actually going to attempt to answer that question. As for your talk about Pressel winning the US Open, she is a player who has shown on numerous occasions since then how to lose tournament. She has been in contention a whole host of times and faded badly down the stretch. In Wie's case, she was in it for a few tournaments in 2006 right down to the last putt. With a bit of luck one could have gone in. Paula Creamer certainly had a lot of luck when her putt on 17 went in. As Dottie Pepper, a well know Creamer fan said, Paula could only hit that putt and pray after that. There were so many breaks in that putt that even Tiger Woods couldn't have read it for sure. But although Paula got a huge slice of luck, she still did well to get herself in contention. It is slightly worrying for her that she made a dogs dinner of a 5 shot lead and then had to rely on a lucky putt to win her the tournament, but the case remains, at least she was in there with a chance, and if a player can get in contention, they have a chance of a bit of luck coming their way in golf.
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
George,
From the tenor of their replies, it would seem that Vale and Johnny N have become unglued. Maybe Johnny N will be satisfied if I say that the reason Paula hasn't won a major is that at the time of last year's majors she was only 19 years old. And Vale, I truly believe that if Bubbles knocks a half-dozen strokes of each round with improved putting, and hits those 300 yard drives down the middle, her game will improve. I honestly do. And everyone will live happily ever after.
You know, if I start to hit my drives 300 yards up the middle and improve my putting, I may join the PGA Tour.
Comment from: bad joke [Visitor]
The nickname "Wie Warriors" should be changed to "Wie Spinsters".
There's nothing a little PR can't fix. :)
Comment from: george hoke [Visitor]
You all need to focus on what being a pro is all about. It's not winning a major-it's about making money. Paula set another record last year by earning the most money without winning a tournament.
Good point George Hoke. Paula did break Natalie Gulbis record of most money without a win.
Comment from Judge:
You know, if I start to hit my drives 300 yards up the middle and improve my putting, I may join the PGA Tour. ----------------- Very doubtful Judge. It's highly unlikely that you have the distance control on your irons, the variety of chip shots, the control out of the rough or many of the other things that pga tour players have.
"Paula did break Natalie Gulbis record of most money without a win."
A record Michelle would surely own could she play in more tournaments. So let me get this straight Michelle Wie fans are taking shots at a player who doesn't win yet earns a lot of money??? Pot meet Kettle. Michelle Wie is the poster child for earning huge paychecks both on and off the course without having yet won anything. As I am sure you are aware Paula has 5 worldwide victories, while Michelle's trophy room remains barren, save for her 2003 Publinks title(boy does that seem like a lifetime ago) and her Jennie K. Wilson local Hawaiian title she picked up when she was 11. Face it, Michelle is all sizzle no steak as we like to say here in Texas. You can spin Michelle's career anyway you like, but the fact remains that the girl who was to revolutionize the game of golf 3 years ago, has yet to win against the women and she has shown that she is light years away from ever competing against the top men on any tour. She wants to master the LPGA before she turns pro.” —Michelle’s father B.J. If I ever get bored with golf, I'm going to start over and play lefthanded." — Michelle Wie "I like challenges, and I think that I get really bored easily,” says Michelle. “So if I just play in the women's tournaments and I guess play them over and over again, I think I'll get bored of golf.” "I think my ultimate goal is to play in the Masters" Would she like to win it? “Yeah, I’d love to,” says Michelle. “But I think the green jacket’s a little bit out of fashion, you know?” These quotes seem assinine and arrogant looking at them today, but when they were said at the height of Wie mania many believed that the LPGA was merely a speed bump on the way to her real challenge, the PGA tour. Wie fans three long years later and O wins and 0 cuts made(on a major men's tour)later are running out of excuses and just hoping for that first elusive win on the LPGA.
Jerry,
You have encapsulated why I have long disliked Bubbles. The only thing I would add is that her assinine quotations not only seem arrogant today, they also seemed so back then, and I said as much at the time.
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Double ditto,
I will add that even if Bubbles NEVER gets that first elusive win, her diehard brown-nosers will never lose faith. They will always have her numerous "injuries" as an excuse.
Judge Smails,
You are an honourable man. You admit what your real opinions are. I have read many discussions on many different discussion boards and there are so many people who claim that they actually like Michelle really, but are just against the hype. In your own post you have admitted that you do not like her. This is to be commended for its honesty. Well done.
Comment by Jerry Jones:
Paula did break Natalie Gulbis record of most money without a win." A record Michelle would surely own could she play in more tournaments. ------------------------ Incorrect Jerry. If Michelle played more tournaments, she would be far more likely to have won on the lpga tour. In fact it is a practical certainty that had Michelle played a full season like Creamer in 2006 on the lpga tour, she would have multiple titles.
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Just when one thinks that Johnny N can't become more ridiculous, he comes up with his latest post. Incredible.
Johnny,
Yes, I treasure honesty, and I'm not phony. Remember, though, there's a difference between disliking a person and hating him. I realize that we have to strive to love our fellow man in a Christian sense; however, liking him is a different matter altogether.
Comment from: george [Visitor]
Alex, first of all I agree that the Wie Warriors have begun to unravel again, faster than a ball of yarn placed before my cats.
Johnny: ***** If Michelle played more tournaments, she would be far more likely to have won on the lpga tour. ***** G- And your evidence is... Oh. You don't have any. ***** In fact it is a practical certainty that had Michelle played a full season like Creamer in 2006 on the lpga tour, she would have multiple titles. ***** G- Well, I don't think Paula played a full season in 2005 -- yet Paula won multiple titles, four in all, two on the LPGA. Now, how about sticking to the facts. When Michelle played, she did not win. When Michelle had a chance to win, she choked. In reality, there's no way to know what Michelle would have done, or should have done -- because she didn't do it. She wasn't eligible to play more. All we can do is judge her on how she actually performed. You can spin stats, you can use all the pretzel logic you want. Yet all of that still leads to the inescapable conclusion: Michelle failed to win. Those questions will continue to circle Michelle until she wins an LPGA tournament. It's also an open question whether she will ever be a full-time LPGA golfer -- by her own choice and inclination. The fact is, Paula has won five pro tournaments now, three on the LPGA tour, including the very prestigious semi-major, Evian. Paula also was the spark plug for the Solheim Cup victory. And all by 20 years of age. Face it. Paula has the skill, toughness, cleverness, charisma, and the looks that are among the key ingredients to be an LPGA star. She also spends time with first tee and other charity events. And part of her star quality is Paula can actually win tourneys. -George
Michelle has it made, she is good looking, fabulously wealthy, accepted into the college of her choice and gets paid for hanging out with NBA stars while watching them play from the best seats in the house.
This is the stuff little girls dream of.
Face it. Paula has the skill, toughness, cleverness, charisma, and the looks that are among the key ingredients to be an LPGA star.
--------------------- If Paula was a real star, there would have been more than 100 fans cheering her on her final hole at the SBS Open. If Paula was a real star, there would have been more than 50 people who stayed for the prize ceremony. Watch the lpga event of Wie's first victory and you might like to note how many people watch a real star winning a title, and how many people stay for the prize ceremony.
Comment from George:
Well, I don't think Paula played a full season in 2005 -- yet Paula won multiple titles, four in all, two on the LPGA. --------------------------- You shouldn't write such long posts, because you show your lack of knowledge. Paula did play a full season in 2005. She played 25 lpga tour events, as a full member, as well as some other foreign events.
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Johnny N,
Where can I "watch the LPGA event of Bubbles' first victory?" The fans really liked her, did they? How many thousand were there, fawning in adulation to a real star? Did she sign a lot of autographs after her first LPGA victory? I must have missed it when she won her first LPGA victory. Was Bubbles' first LPGA victory in a "major" or in just a regular event like Paula's three LPGA wins?
Comment from: Jerry Jones [Visitor]
Michelle has it made, she is good looking, fabulously wealthy, accepted into the college of her choice and gets paid for hanging out with NBA stars while watching them play from the best seats in the house.
This is the stuff little girls dream of One-Putt, I think you perefctly encapsulated the problem that many Wie critics have with Michelle and her fans. Surely you remember the atmosphere surrounding Michelle circa 2003, after she became the youngest player to win a USGA sanctioned event. It was a media feeding frenzy, she was the can't miss kid. She hit the ball farther than any woman who had ever lived, she simply had too much game for the LPGA, she would dominate that pathetic tour within the year and then set her sights on the PGA tour, where she had the game to not only make cuts, but actually compete for titles. The few people, like myself that had reservations about her future, were shouted down and labled as sexist, backward thinking rubes who were scared of the future of golf. When Michelle was contending for LPGA titles at 14, the world told us that her total domination was imminent, look they said proudly, "if she is finishing in the top 5 at 14 think what she will do next year." Remember her memorable run at the 2004 Sony Open; where she missed the cut by a single stroke. "See how close she is, Wie Warriors screamed, next year she will finish top 20." Some of us had questions about her game, her maturity, her exponential growth as a golfer, but again we were in the minority and shouted down again--The facts they would say were right in front of us, it's common sense really. If a 14 year old girl could almost make the cut in a men's event and could almost win a woman's tour event then by 15, with increased strength, mental toughness and maturity, surely she would achieve both with ease. Fast forward a couple of years and Michelle Wie is no closer to attaining these "modest" goals of a win on the LPGA tour and a cut made on the men's tour than she was nearly four years ago. Her win total on the LPGA after 40 or so events still stands at 0 and her performances against the men have been disasters, her performance at the 2004 Sony Open at the age of 14 still stands as her high water mark. The voices of the critics and doubters has become deafening and arguments from the Wie warriors no longer center on facts or results they have been reduced to what you saw above from One-Putt, which summarized says this, "Screw you guys. So ehat if Michelle hasn't won yet or comes in last in every men's event she plays, she's rich and famous and that's all that matters." So thank you One-Putt and all the other Wie fans who have finally conceeded that Michelle is no longer about results or even golf, she is about whoring around with NBA players and reaping the benefits of achieving fame without accomplishment. Ladies and gentleman say hello to Michelle Wie, the new Paris Hilton. I apologize for the length of this post--I suppose a good old fashioned, "I told you so!" would have sufficed. Sorry.
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
One-Putt,
Do you really want to go there? I mean, your new buddies are Johnny N, Vale, and Stanley. I give you more credit than that. Talk about strange bedfellows!
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
I have two questions to ask of the Wie Warriors. Feel free to answer at your leisure.
Stanley, Exactly where did you read that Bubbles' most recent :injury' was in fact a fracture? One-Putt, Since it didn't happen last week at the SBS, will Bubbles be in the publicity tent with Carol Bivens at the Fields for that joint press conference that you predicted? You know, the one where she will graciously accept her year-long 2007 exemption for the LPGA tour, AFTER she announces her acceptance of a waiver of the 18 years old rule allowing her on the LPGA tour.
Comment from: George [Visitor]
**One-Putt [Visitor] Email
Michelle has it made, she is good looking, fabulously wealthy, accepted into the college of her choice and gets paid for hanging out with NBA stars while watching them play from the best seats in the house. ** So Michelle is Paris Hilton with less money? -George
Comment from: George [Visitor]
Comment from: Johnny N [Visitor] Email
Comment from George: Well, I don't think Paula played a full season in 2005 -- yet Paula won multiple titles, four in all, two on the LPGA. --------------------------- **Paula did play a full season in 2005. ** Unlike Johnny and the other Wie Warriors, I'll 'fess up to a mistake. Paula did play throughout 2005. However, Paula did have a fantastic 2005, full season or otherwise. And it changes nothing about Paula being talented, tough, tenacious and a winner, with charisma, good looks, and a respect for the game mixed in. Paula has won, and is winning, at a very young age. That makes her a star. You talked about the size of the gallery at the SBS. So what? All that means is some people missed a thrilling tournament won by a true champion. Am I supposed to think that Paris Hilton or Britney Spears have more talent than Helen Mirren based on their relative Internet hits? Maybe that's your yardstick. The fact is, you've been reduced to saying Michelle is better because she might attract more gawkers or has more money. Not sure if you want to go there as a general rule. -George
George,
Nobody denied Creamers immense talent. Creamer has immense talent and is actually an underachiever so far. To deal with her 5 titles: - Her 2 japanese titles are simply nice achievements, but are not in the same league as lpga events. For example Ai Miyazato didn't get an lpga tour win all season, yet she went back to Japan, played 2 events and won them both, one of which was the Japanese Tour Championships. That shows the difference in quality, so please stop trying to make Creamer's Japanese titles into more than they are. Creamer's 3 lpga tour titles: - Title number 1 was won when the leaders had a competition of who could stumble the least. Creamer backed her way into the title. - Evian Masters, she had sure a lead that there was no pressure. - In 2005 she also had about 4 other title chances where she completely choked down the stretch including the one where she lost a 6 stroke lead with 8 holes to Lorena Ochoa. - In 2006, she played really bad any time she got into contention throughout her 27 lpga event. It should also be noted that she played 3 times on the much weaker Japanese Tour and didn't win there either. - At the SBS, she build a 5 shot lead, and made a mess of it, losing it over a few holes. She then got a very lucky putt which gave her the title. Throughout her play, Creamer has proven to be very dodgy when the going gets tough. She has won titles though. A player with that talent will win titles, when they play a season of 25+ events, even if they are dodgy down the stretch. The surprising thing for Creamer is that she managed to go winless in 2006 through 27 lpga events, and 3 japanese tour events. Creamer is at a place where Ochoa was a couple of years ago. She has lots of talent, and wins some titles but is still very dodgy in pressure situations. Maybe she will learn to perform better under pressure, like Lorena has. Lorena is probably ready to win a major, Creamer is far from it.
WIE BASHERS
Let's have a bet! I bet that Michelle Wie will win a major before Paula Creamer does. PS: This is just for bragging rights, which are more important than monetary gain in that particular case. So is anyone willing to bet on that, or do they actually recognise that Creamer just isn't a good major performer yet.
Jerry Jones,
There is little point responding to your points. You have the dates wrong and your piece is littered with inaccurate information.
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Johnny N,
I hope for your sake that your recent posts are attempts at wry humor. Because if they're not, you're headed for a room with no windows, a steel door, and rubber wallpaper. It would probably be good therapy for you to try to learn something. In your case, ANYTHING would be a big improvement. Try studying Geography, Zoology, or even Literature. But remember, if you do choose Literature, "Moby Dick" is not a venereal disease.
Alex,
Obviously you were upset with the comments pointing out that you were just Judge Smails lapdog. Sometimes the truth hurts, as is obvious from your reaction to it.
George said:
You talked about the size of the gallery at the SBS. So what? All that means is some people missed a thrilling tournament won by a true champion. ----------------------- George, Winning is no fun, without people to share it with. Wie will have plenty of people to share in the celebrations. The bottom line is that people like Wie. That irks you, Alex, Judge Smails, Ford and some others. Some people are upset that she has so many fans. Get over it.
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Johnny N,
Not even close. As usual, you don't have a clue. Stanley, If you and Johnny N are trying to win prizes for the most inane posts, you can stop right now. You win!
Stanley,
Would you rather win with nobody watching or...lose with the whole world watching? Just wondering.
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Judge Smails,
With Johnny N and Stanley in such good form, the Alan Cup committee may have to split the prize between the veterans like Ghet Rheel and the newbies. Considering some of the nonsense these clowns are coming up with, maybe a "dreadnaught class" would be appropriate in future Alan Cup competition.
Alex,
You have savaged the Wiemen as you always do, and your rapier wit made me laugh. Wiemen, you poor sots, Alex toys with you like a cat does with a mouse, and you don't even realize it. The only thing he can be accused of is having a battle of wits with unarmed men. Jerry, You have summarized the situation very well. The Wiebots are now reduced to saying, "Well, she's rich and famous, okay? So just SHUT-UP!" Again, virtually every one of my predictions has been inerrant.
Comment from: George [Visitor]
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Stanley: Winning is no fun, without people to share it with. ***** G You're joking, right? You couldn't possibly be so dense as to actually post that and mean it. What did you really mean? ***** Wie will have plenty of people to share in the celebrations. ***** Michelle already has plenty of people to celebrate her wealth! Her agent, her publicist, her assistant agent, her assistant publicist, Stanford University, the managers of her local shopping mall. Michelle already has a lot of close friends to celebrate with! ***** The bottom line is that people like Wie. That irks you, Alex, Judge Smails, Ford and some others. Some people are upset that she has so many fans. ***** Are you kidding? I rejoice every day that Michelle can name as her fans people like you who define their very existence by her fame and the attention she gets. Look, I've said this before, but it bears repeating. This isn't about Michelle. I couldn't care less about how she does or how she chokes. It's about YOU, i.e., you and the other Wie Warriors. It's about how you collectively have become lunatics in your zeal over Michelle. It's about how you collectively have unraveled, call people names, and become spitting mad should anyone dare be skeptical about just how wonderful Michelle is. It's not about Michelle. It's about you. It's about the entertainment you provide because you act like such nitwits. Really, I thought you would have figured that out by now. -George
Lunatics who act like nitwits. It seems to me that Wie supporters are the objects of name calling, not the name callers.
I propose something for 2007 that I also proposed for last year. Head to head comparison of Wie and Creamer. We cam look at wins in common events. Who finished ahead more times in common events. Most money in common events. Creamer supporters feel free to gloat--but only if Creamer can do better than Wie in an event where both compete.
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Jim C
In any stroke play event, the golfers play against the course, not against any particular other golfer Therefore, no matter how Bubbles would fare in respect to Paula or anyone else, it would not matter. You must understand this before all other.
Jim C,
Your proposal of Wie versus Creamer is very unfair. As you probably know, Michelle will probably play 8 events and 4 of them will be majors. If you know about golf, you will know that Creamer is not a major performer, and has wilted under the pressure in each major she has performed in. Therefore, Alex, Judge Smails and the other imbociles will not take you up on the offer, because they know full well that Creamer just dosen't perform at the majors.
Some people mocked and jeered when I made predictions before.
I laid out a timescale for Creamer to dominate golf. It included her starting to dominate the womens game in 2008 and doing the grand slam in 2010. Then she would head over to the pga tour, and be winning within 2 years there. She would have her first pga tour title by 26 years of age and go on to take her first major by 28 years of age. She would then start to dominate the game and win the mens grand slam by the age of 32. Many people laughed at those claims, but they are laughing on the other side of their faces, after Creamers devastating win at the SBS Open. What some people don't understand is that Creamer knocked in that putt on 17 because she needed it to win. That sort of thing can't be thought. That's why she will go on to dominate the mens tour. She has already stated that she intends to dominate the lpga, and then at that stage she will head off to the pga tour to dominate that.
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Jim C,
Since you're still talking up Bubbles as the greatest thing since sliced bread, maybe you can tell us what fabulous predictions you have for your idol for this season. Last year, you flatly predicted that Bubbles would WIN the Evian and the Weetabix, and make the cut at the 84 Lumber. And that was before her recent rash of "injuries." I shouldn't need to tell you how wrong your predictions were. NONE of your predictions came anywhere to fruition. So, my friend Jimbo, what glowing performances do you see for Bubbles this year?
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Ronnie,
You're not going to get anybody with a lick of sense to bite on your amateurish attempt at playing devil's advocate. The secret to stirring up some debate is the insertion of a little bit of hyperbole, a small amount of picturesque exaggeration, and even a tad of good-natured prevarication.. You way overdid it in your post about Paula. Not even the Wie Warriors believe that Bubbles can accomplish miracles like those. And you don't believe it either.
Comment from: George [Visitor]
Michelle, BTW, has graced Yahoo Sports with her presence and wisdom.
Michelle made sure to be photo'd in front of Playstation 3 logos to keep her sponsors happy. These are the headlines: ***** Wie to critics: 'I don't care' In an interview with Yahoo! Sports, a defiant Michelle Wie dismisses her detractors. 'No regrets' ***** You have to go to yahoo.com and then click on the link to activate Michelle's wisdom for today. You might also have to listen to a Radio Shack commercial. Maybe that's one of Michelle's new sponsors. -George
Comment from: George [Visitor]
And for the Wie Warriors -- or anyone -- here's a simple question:
Will Michelle Wie win an LPGA event in 2007? Yes or No? -George
Comment from: George [Visitor]
**Coulthard: Creamer supporters feel free to gloat--but only if Creamer can do better than Wie in an event where both compete.** G Umm, weak effort, Jim, aka James Coulthard. The questions about Michelle will continue until she wins an LPGA event. Although her interview with Yahoo suggests Michelle may rival the Wie Warriors in self-delusion. Oh, and James Coulthard, as for you whining about people calling names, please read on. James Coulthard's hypocrisy can be documented at this link. Once you paste the Web link into a browser, it will take you to a Travel Golf page. Just search for "Coulthard" or "racist" once you get to that page, and you'll see what I mean. (sorry about the formatting, but it should work) http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/tim.mcdonald/2005/09/12/critics_of_u_s_solheim_cup_captain_nancy http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/tim.mcdonald/2005/09/12/critics_of_u_s_solheim_cup_captain_nancy
Comment from: George [Visitor]
The link might not have pasted correctly due to the formatting.
Here's what Jim C., aka James Coulthard, said in Sept. 2005 first Jim C said this: ***** OK guys. Ever hear of the word RACISM or the word RACIST. I am white and I am from the Bay Area. I am far more impressed by what Michelle Wie HAS ACCOMPLISHED than by what Paula Creamer has accomplished, although Paula Creamer's accomplishments are impressive. If George's views are anything more than just RACISM, it should be possible to find a Korean American from Hawaii who shares them. Good luck with your search. ***** Then when his tired old racism allegations -- a typical counterattack by the Wie Warriors -- were refuted, this was Jim C.'s (aka Coulthard) comeback: ***** I take back my RACIST comment. What you are is an extreme JINGOIST. ***** Glad to see you are back Jim C., BTW. Now all we're missing are Norman and June and we will have the return of the best (or worst, depending on how you look at it) of the Wie Warriors. One more question to the Wie Warriors: Will Michelle Wie win an LPGA event by July 31, 2008? Just wondering. -George
I know that the title of this piece juxtaposes Bubbles and Creamer, but I wouldn't get drawn into such a debate. I say this for the simple reason that besting Creamer was NEVER even remotely close to the benchmark the Wiebots set for Bubbles. Rather, she was supposed to be a golfer for the ages, etc., etc., etc. -- you know the rest. It was this characterization and the predictions attending it that prompted our ridicule, NOT any idea we had that it was silly to imply Bubbles would be better than another LPGA player.
Creamer was never even in the equation; that is, not until it became obvious that the good ship Bubbles was listing badly, and all the Wiebots had to fall back on was the idea that the object of their perverse worship was better than another woman. Stick a fork in these Wiebots, they're done.
Judge Smails,
Wake up. Michelle and Paula have been compared for years, it is not a new thing as you have suggested.
Comment from George:
One more question to the Wie Warriors: Will Michelle Wie win an LPGA event by July 31, 2008? Just wondering. ----------------------- YES.
Great point you honor. Even comparisons to Annika were thought to be inappropriate, because not only was Michelle going to be the greatest female golfer of all-time, she would also with her long game and talent accomplish what Annika never could, namely make cuts and compete against the men. Michelle was after all going to be the next Tiger Woods, she was after all a better golfer than Tiger at the same age, according to many Wie nuts. Nobody in their right mind thinks that Michelle will be better or do more in the game of golf than Tiger, only the diehards think Michelle will eclipse the record of Annika and there is great debate about whether or not Michelle is better now or will ever be better than the 9th ranked woman in the world. The answer, of course is that she is not and probably never will be. As Judge said the fact that Wie fans are arguing that Michelle is better than a player with 5 worldwide wins to her credit is laughable, but what's truly funny is that they have no idea how pathetic they sound and how far they have fallen. I am awaiting the arguments revolving around who had the better career Michelle or Ty Tryon. I say Michelle due to her record in the majors, though Ty actually earned his tour card...
Alex: You way overdid it in your post about Paula. Not even the Wie Warriors believe that Bubbles can accomplish miracles like those. And you don't believe it either.
------------------------------------ Why are you talking about Wie. She hasn't even won a title. Why don't you wait until Wie has won 5 times and then maybe you can say something else. Creamer is a proven winner. She has won at every level. She was set back a little by a serious injury in 2006, but she is over that. Get used to the pink panther logo and get used to pink, and get used to Paula Creamer. How many titles will Paula win in 2007? How many?
J Jones. For the record, Michelle has earned an lpga tour card, she just hasn't taken it.
George,
Do you keep a database record of every comment that anyone ever made on the travelgolf blogs?
Excuse me if I have to laugh at your bravado Johnny. Wie fans have been prediciting victories for years now and still have nothing to show for it. I admire your optimism and I guess you have the law of averages working for you, but it really is quite sad to see the "future of golf" struggle so mightily to win one against the girls. I guess her plans to start over and play left handed will have to wait.
She has NOT earned her LPGA tour card.
Wie cannot officially become a member of the LPGA Tour until her 18th birthday, unless she petitions for an exception to this rule. She has not chosen to file such a petition. Since she is not an LPGA member, she is limited to playing in no more than six LPGA events per year and only when granted entry by sponsor exemption. Her earnings also do not appear on the official ADT money list and she is not eligible for Rolex Rookie of the Year honors. Nor do her statistics appear on the LPGA's web site. However, as a professional, she is allowed to collect prize money. Michelle based on her results would have met the qualifications, but she does not have her card as you suggested. Let me say that Michelle has shown that she can compete very well on the LPGA level, she has not shown that she can win and that is suprising for the "chosen one", but my post was not meant to imply that she could not earn her way onto tour, simplt that she ahd not yet, for exampe through the route of Q-School like Ty Tryon did. I think we can all agree at this point ythat Michelle's place is on the LPGA tour, talent wise. She should be a solid top tewn player there for years to come. She may even a few tournaments here and there.
Sorry, I left out the word "win" in that last sentence. It's like my computer wouldn't let me use the words "win" and "Michelle Wie" in the same sentence.
Comment from: george [Visitor]
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Comment from: Johnny N [Visitor] Email George, Do you keep a database record of every comment that anyone ever made on the travelgolf blogs? ***** no -George
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Ronnie,
What I was referring to were your bizarre claims that Paula is going to play and win on the PGA tour. She's never going to play one hole on the PGA tour unless somehow she gets a sponsor's exemption. I think that Paula, like Annika, has better sense than to think she can go with the big boys. If you were actually serious about your bizarre claims, you should sit back and think more rationally.
A litle background. In Sept 2005 George compared Michelle Wie to much ballyhooed NFL flop Ryan Leaf. He later declared that comparison to be an insult to Ryan Leaf. At the time Wie was still 15 with a record that was strong enough that with the addition of a Samsung DQ in October she was able to debut at number 3 in the initial women's worlkd rankings.
And by the way this does illustrate the hypocrisy of George's claim that he only directs his venom at Wie.s supporters ans not Wie herself.
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Jim C,
How about those predictions I asked for? What will Chubby do next?
Alex
Michelle Wie is injured. In addition, I do not know what her focus will be. In the near term I expect her to compete in the Kraft, but be rusty. Maybe something like 12th place eight shots back. Assuming she scales back her competition against the men and doesn't try US Open Qualifying the same week as the LPGA I will predict a win in a Major, quite likely the LPGA.
The following is for information purposes only. This is not hype, this is not a kick in the teeth, this is just information that some may find interesting.
I don’t know how long this information has been on LPGA.com, but under the PLAYERS option is a picture of Michelle Wie, with all of her stats and records. I noticed one were she qualified for some event at the age of ten. Of course none of this means anything on this blog because she is still winless. However, it is interesting information and especially the fact that the LPGA is actually recognizing her at all. Adds to the speculation that she may actually be joining the tour.
Alex,
It is hard to imagine that Ronnie is serious. If you remember, though, he did post on these boards some months ago and make the same predictions. At the time he said that he watched Creamer practice at an event, and he was gushing about her perfect ball-striking, making the claim that no one -- not child, woman or man -- could equal her stellar performance at that range. I'm really not sure exactly what to make of him. However, if he actually believes what he is saying, he is seriously unbalanced mentally.
Judge Smalls
If Ronnie believes what he says, he is seriously mistaken--but there is no reason to assume he is mentally unbalanced.
Jim C,
How about those predictions I asked for? What will Chubby do next? -------------------------- Alex, Who could you possibly be referring to? Who is chubby? Let it be known that the new official term for dickhead has changed to Alexhead. On the golf channel boards, if anyone says anything particularly stupid, they should be referred to as an Alexhead. Ford is an Alexhead for example.
Vale,
That information has been on lpga.com for quite some time, so it doesn't make it any more likely when or if she would join. The information was put up in response to massive public interest about that player and the mass of questions the lpga were receiving about her on their site.
Okay, the grand slam winning in the mens side is very optimistic for Paula to achieve.
However, she has been questioned many times, and she has said that she intends to dominate the womens game and that she does intend at that stage to move onto the pga tour. If you had watched her strike the ball, taken with her excellent putting, you would know what talent she has. She knocked in a 40 foot putt at the SBS, but that would give her the win. Tiger does the same, some people say those are lucky putts, but Paula and Tiger hit them when they are to win.
Comment from Ford:
Excuse me if I have to laugh at your bravado Johnny. Wie fans have been prediciting victories for years now and still have nothing to show for it. I admire your optimism and I guess you have the law of averages working for you, but it really is quite sad to see the "future of golf" struggle so mightily to win one against the girls. I guess her plans to start over and play left handed will have to wait. ------------------------- Ford, Those particular comments weren't enough to warrent you being called an Alexhead so apologies for that. However, you are missing an important point. You are saying that she hasn't even won against the girls yet. What you are forgetting is that no girl has won an lpga title under 18 years and 9 months age. So why do you speak of it as some sort of failure. The reality is that if she won before her 18th birthday, she would be breaking the record by a significant margin. Wie's fans have often been asked for predictions. Jim C had made some previous predictions which were overoptimistic in my opinion. At the start of the 2006 season, I had been asked would she win in the 2006 season. I said she would win before the end of the 2007 season. That gave her two seasons making 16 lpga events, which is less than a typical player would have in just one season. That's the timeframe I predicted she would win in. Michelle will win in 2007, and that will be huge success, to add to all the previous success that she has had so far. Did you know that Michelle holds the record score for amateurs at each of the 4 womens majors?
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Stanley,
The name is not dickhead, it's Richard Cranium. Chubby is a term of endearment for Bubbles. She has put on more than a few pounds Jim C knew who I was referring to. You'll have to get with it, Stan baby.
Alex,
If you think Michelle Wie is chubby, then the term Alexhead is a very good one and should be used very often on the blogs. In case you hadn't noticed, she went from a very skinny girl to a normal girl who is still pretty slim. If her previous skinny state is something you liked, then that is very worrying indeed. Are you really attracted to skinny 15 year old girls? Normal men would actually like women with curves, like Paula Creamer for instance, or the improved Michelle Wie, or even Morgan Pressel who looked quite well at the Fields Open.
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Stanley,
If you don't want to be accused of being a pedophile, you must stop expressing you opinion of the relative attractiveness of young women. Those young ladies are considerably younger than my three daughters.
I do not consider Michelle Woe to be be chubby--but I assumed from context that Alex was asking about Michelle Wie. I was not aware that she had put on any weight, and if she has I would assume that it is muscle. I do wonder, however, why anyone would think "chubby" is a term of endearment?
Jim,
When you were wondering how anyone would think chubby was a term of endearment, please remember you are dealing with a nutcase like Alex. This guy has a history of delusions, as shown on travelgolf boards for quite some time. Maybe Alex would believe that calling someone an Alexhead is a term of endearment.
Alex said:
If you don't want to be accused of being a pedophile, you must stop expressing you opinion of the relative attractiveness of young women. Those young ladies are considerably younger than my three daughters. ______________________________ Alex, they may be younger than your 3 daughters, but they aren't that much younger than I am. There is nothing wrong with expressing an attraction for women. It is plainly obvious that Chris Baldwin fancies Paula Creamer. He even discussed her great legs in one of his other blogs. Chris is quite a bit older, but there is nothing wrong with him expressing his opinion that she is a fine looking young woman. She is 20 years old also, so she is not that young. The question I was asking yourself was why did you have a preference for Miss Wie to be skinnier. She was obviously just a child them. Although she is still only 17 years old, she has matured into a more femine womanly figure, and you expressed your disappointment at that.
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
No, Stanley, my disappoinment is not in Bubbles.
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