You made valid points and showed you are a lot more fair than you are normally given credit for. And I agree also. Michelle did herself some good by playing today.

She wanted a restart and I think she did that for herself today. It will be interesting to see if she can play decently at the Open.

"Wie played some of the worst golf of her career at Bulle Rock. And it still might have been the most important tournament of her life." Good point, Chris. Yes, she showed grit. It's always been a part of her, and it begins to surface when the chips are down. I disagree with your generalization about her being a quitter. She's a competitor, and, barring injuries, she'll always give it her best shot. As she heals and gets in more playing time her game will continue to improve. But we need to be patient.

MW deserves credit?? For what? For playing through some pain (either real or imaginary)? Giving MW credit for merely completing a tournament is like congratulating someone for not cheating. Lowering the bar are we???

Chris, it's nice to see you being so gracious regards to Michelle Wie. I like you a lot better when you're being objective about Wie. You're looking much more like a professional writer instead of someone just looking for attention.

Keep up the good work. It suits you better.

She also needs to realize that she needs to learn to play in The LPGA.
If she continues to tee it up against the men it's going to hurt her.

She also needs to realize that she needs to learn to play in The LPGA.
If she continues to tee it up against the men it's going to hurt her.

Chris, I think you must be loosing your mind. Now you think all wrist nonsense is real I guess. I do not think anyone desreves special credit for simply doing what he or she is supposed to do. In this case MW has become a head case and needs to stop complaing, show some respect for the LPGA and its players and just play golf. If she does well then I will give her credit.

Credit? Huh? 20 million dollars for finishing a tournament as a professional, and finishing more than dead last of those who made the cut. I want some of that.

How many tournaments does MW need to play to show that she simply does not have what takes to be the men, (or the ladies). Now we have to endure the pain of her in the OPEN?

jb

Michelle Wie won't be in the Open next week, she didn't even attempt to qualify this year. Whatever made you think that she would be playing in the Open?

Coming in last will definitely make it easier to improve. I hope Wie can win something before the time runs on her meter, tick tick tick....

Let me express the complaint of a Wie supporter. Look at Ken's comment after my last post.

Coming in last will definitely make it easier to improve. I hope Wie can win something before the time runs on her meter, tick, tick, tick...

First she only came in last among players who made the cut--she finished ahead of every player who missed the cut. Actually it will be much harder for her to improve on her performance this week than it was for her to improve on what she did last week. But OK it is a great sounding line, but let's not forget the underlying ttuth.

Next. I hope Wie can win something before the time runs on ther meter. Stop there, and it's really a fairly nice thing to say. Add in the tick, tick, tick... and it becomes a very nasty comment.

But OK, people have a right to make nasty comments, and that too is a fairly good line.

My complaint. I don't know what Ken will say for sure--but I am used to people making really nasty statements like that, and then pretending they are actually Wie supporters, because buried amid all the sarcasm he did say he lopes she can win something. ha ha ha.

That was some damn good reporting from Havre de Grace these last few days. I really enjoyed it.

Oh, what drivel. Hey, Baldwin, what are you trying to do? Rehabilitate your image among the Bubbles sycophants?

First, Bubbles does not usually quit; she usually chokes or plays horrid golf to begin with -- only sometimes does she quit. Second, even the Wies understand that, after the debacle last week and the damage done to the cash cow's image, she could not withdraw from this event as well.

Anyway, 21 over par . . . . Wow, I might be willing to play the Bubbles for money myself.

Jim C,

The best lines you have come up with to date concerning Bubbles is that she would definitely win the LPGA and that she was as good a bet as anyone in the field.

Those will be hard to top but keep on trying.

Hey, Alex, the Wiebots have lowered their sights to a point where they view just completing an event as an accomplishment. Their bar drops faster than the temperature in Caribou, Me., in December.

What's next? Perhaps soon just dragging herself to the first tee will be cause for accolades.

Tiger Woods made a believer out of me and I respect him. On the other hand, Michelle Wie may someday be a great golfer. If there hadn't been a cut she would have still been beaten by at least 90% of the field. It was a fluke that she made the cut anyway. For her sake I hope she can win soon but I won't hold my breath or be rooting for her.

You were closer to the mark with this post than you were with picking Lebron James to lead Cleveland anywhere.

Did you bet the family farm on Cleveland Chris?

MW does not make one decision on her own, and would have quit if she had her way, she is talented but the constant pampering has ruin her, she may come back but it will take awhile, she is dead last in women's golf and deserves no respect from her peers if she has any, the women's tour is better off without her, it is sickening to see her aloofness toward pro ams and other players l love watching the womens tour but without bubbles would be great, and the other players would get the respect they work for and deserve

Jim C,

It is obvious that jb was referring to the Women's US Open. At least it was obvious to me.

Jim C,

What about it, Jimbo my man! Will Bubble sdefinitely smoke the field at the Women's US Open next week?

She said at the LPGA that she was hitting some good shots out there.Just where remains a mystery.

Come on, Jim, give us a prediction.

Stanley, feel free to jump in any time with your words of wisdom. What will Bubbles do next? Will the Women's US Open be her breakthrough win in 2007?

Chris,

I wouldn't be at all surprised it it was BJ's demand that Bubbles finish the tournament.

His greed knows no bounds and his disregard for the child labors laws is well known. Once she backed in under the cut line, he knew that she had a paycheck coming, even if it was only about $3300.

If she was hurting as bad as was indicated and BJ was obviously aware of it, only greed would motivate a father to allow his minor female child to continue in apparent pain and distress.

Alex: "What will Bubbles do next? Will the Women's US Open be her breakthrough win in 2007? "
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If you don't mind, I'll answer that Alex. No she won't win the US Womens Open in 2007. From the lpga championship it was very obvious that she was having difficulty releasing. She lost a lot of power and indeed control off the tee. She might improve a little for the US Open, but not enough to win it. Making a cut there will be even more difficult than the lpga championship as the usga rough will be worse and the course will be set up to test par for the best women golfer, on the tops of their games and with healthy bodies.

It isn't easy to come back from injuries of that nature Alex. She is probably doing the right thing from a long-term golf point of view, but not for her short-term image.
It would be far easier for her to have stayed away from the course and come back when her wrist were strengthened better. That way if she came back at the Evian for example she would have done much better, but she wouldn't have as much competitive experience.

She might well miss the cut at the US Womens Open but importantly she won't do any permanent damage to her wrist, so the experience of playing more competive golf could be helpful.

The Evian Masters starts on July 26th. This would probably me a more realistic timeframe for Michelle to have built up her strength and to be swinging a lot closer to full force and importantly with better grip pressure on the clubs.

At least from playing the lpga and possibly the us open, she will have got more used to the compeitive side of things and so if her wrists and upper body is stronger for the Evian, she has a good chance of contending there.

I think Wie finished the tournament because Annika publicly called her out for quitting the Ginn tourney. It had nothing to do with grit or pain tolerance or professionalism. It had to do with the respect of (or lack of respect) the other players.

It would be like Jack Nicklaus calling out a player for quitting the Memorial. You either sack up and play, or risk being branded for life.

Norman,

From the tenor of your post, I get the notion that you don't think that Bubbles is going to make the cut and finish top ten at the John Deere, either.

But you think that Bubbles is going to compete at the Evian? Just what is Norman's definition of "compete?"

The Wie-wee's must be getting desperate. Even Norman is lowering the bar to ground level.

I have noticed that the Wie Warriors to the man have swallowede the "severe injury" yarn completely.

MW needs to take time off to be 18,
to "go have fun" and heal.
Then come back and enter any/all
long drive competitions.
Only when she can play on a par with
the ladies and namely another 18 yr
old Na On Min, should she be allowed to
play against the men, period!

ToddCommish hit the nail on the head. Wie finished this tournament because of the grilling she got from that travesty at the Ginn. Annika wasn't the only one to speak out either. Legitimate injury or not, anyone who WDs while playing on a sponsors exemption owes the courtesy of an apology to the host and/or sponsor of the tournament. It is assumed that said player would "try as hard as they can".

I will say that Wie doesn't deserve all the blame. The lion's share should go to her "camp" as they are the ones advising and/or making the decisions.

ToddCommish said:
It would be like Jack Nicklaus calling out a player for quitting the Memorial. You either sack up and play, or risk being branded for life.
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Sorry Todd, but Annika is no Jack.
Jack is highly respected and also liked. Annika isn't liked by her fellow players or officials or many other people either.

Alex: "From the tenor of your post, I get the notion that you don't think that Bubbles is going to make the cut and finish top ten at the John Deere, either."
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Alex, if Michelle plays the John Deere that would be a very stupid decision.



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Alex:
"But you think that Bubbles is going to compete at the Evian? Just what is Norman's definition of "compete?""
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Read it again. It says contend, not compete. I think she will contend at the Evian. She could win the Evian or the British Open or maybe even both. Wouldn't you like that!

In spite of what you might assume if you check first round tee times on the LPGA site for the Ginn Tribute, Janice Moodie and Alena Sharp were not the only players with a 7:26 tee time on the 10th hole. There was a third player who has been edited out. Michelle Wie. Nearly two hours later at 9:16 Annika teed off--so Annika was in the middle of her round when the Rule of 88 issues arose regarding Michelle.

Obviously she was kept out of the loop because no one, not Michelle Wie and not the LPGA officials wanted to interupt her round. Next time if Annika wants to be kept abreast of everything that happens in a tournament she sponsors then she should not play in that tournament. Perhaps if Annika had been involved, she would have seen to it that th 88 Rule was waived for Michelle, but she wasn't involved and the Rule wasn't waived. At least Michelle was not told that it would be waived--so if she finished the round at 88 or over she had no guarantees that it would not be invoked. Indeed, some have argued that even is she parred the last two holes, she would be given a two stroke penalty because her people consulted with her about the possibility of her runnning afoul of the rule.

Here is my problem. Should Michelle have been treated like a star, or like any other sponsor's exemption? If the former particularly since she was just coming back from an injury and playing at less than 100 per cent, the 88 Rule should have been waived. If the latter, she should have been thanked for withdrawing so she could no longer slow down play for the LPGA pros in her group and in the later groups. That after all was the purpose of the rule--to get poorly performing exemptions to withdraw. If you refuse to waive the rule for her, don't complain when she does what she is expected to do according to the rule.

Actually I think Annika should have had it arranged so she playd with the two sponsor's exemptions. Wie's struggles may have been unexpected, but Kline's 86-89 certainly was no surprise. With that group, no LPGA member except Annika would be inconvienced.

hold on hold on...did anyone catch the post round interview yesterday? with Wie stating that she is taking two days off before going to grind with her swing coach for the next two weeks, get "lots of rounds in". I thought she was injured. so injuried that she used it as the excuse for her poor play and her contemplation of withdrawing for a second straight week. There is no injury. She continues to be a disgrace.

Jim C,

In your world does Michelle bare responsibility for anything? Or,is it the responsibility of everyone else to attend to her needs--treat her like a star, accommodate her special rules needs because she's returning from injury!! Are you serious or trying to tweak some people?

Sometimes a humbling experience such as this is exactly what a player needs to ignite the fire in their belly.

This experience might be the catalyst that puts Miss Wie on the right track.

We will just have to wait and see.

What I am saying is either treat her like a star or treat her like everyone else. If the LPGA did not want her to withdraw they had the responsibility of waiving the possible one year penalty in her case. Otherwise they had the responsibility of explaining to the public that sponsor's exemptioms who find themselves in Michelle Wie's position are expected to show their playing partners the courtesy of withdrawing rather than continuing to slow down play. That is the purpose of the 88 Rule, which is why there is no penalty for a player who shows such courtesy by willingly withdrawing.

The LPGA acted like a theater company which expected a star to perform when she obviously was not up to it--because the show must go on--but if she did perform made it clear that she would be bannned for a year if she messed up.

Comment from: Jim C [Visitor]
In spite of what you might assume if you check first round tee times on the LPGA site for the Ginn Tribute, Janice Moodie .....since she was just coming back from an injury and playing at less than 100 per cent, the 88 Rule should have been waived.
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THIS IS the LPGA - Ladies PROFESSIONAL Golf Assn. Rules are not WAIVED at this level of play. If you want to waive rules, then there may as well not be a PROFESIONAL league. We had "Time Outs" and bent the rules in kindergarten. See what this behavior training has taught the new generation!.... "It's O.K. to cheat", that is what the younger generations are being taught!

Norman is back! And he's as balmy as ever!

You read his post correctly, guys.

He actually said that Bubbles will not only compete at the Evian, she will CONTEND.

Furthermore, Bubbles will possibly win both the Evian and the British .

Norman, if you're joking let us know. Otherwise we'll have to send the men in the white coats to capture you.

Well, anyone can say anything, as long an they use the disclaimer word "POSSIBLY".

Such as.....

WIE-WEE will POSSIBLY withdraw from EVIAN and Bitish Open.

One putt.

Michelle Wie has had plenty of competitive fire. If anything, this could lessen her competitive fire, so that she focusses more of her energy on the weaker competition that she faces against women, rther than the tougher competition against men. If anything this could convice she needs to use clubs tailored for the LPGA rather than the PGA.

But there is one thing it has done. It has changed the way talks about those who criticize her.

The Michelle Wie of the past would have responded to Annika something like "Annika and the rest of the LPGA have done so much to make me feel wecome whenever I play on tour, that I would love to give Annika her apology just to thank her and the other members of the LPGA for the warm welcome they have given me, but I really don't understand why it was wrong of me to follow LPGA rules in this matter, and I have too much respect for Annika and the LPGA to offer an apolgy that is only words. Perhaps if Annika would care to explain things to me, I might understsnd, but as things are I really do not understand what the problem is.

John D

In fact this particular rule was waived last year for Dakota Dowd. Other rules regarding tournmanment appearances are waived for Annika on a routine basis. The idea that the LPGA does not waive rules is absurd.

And I still contend it is wrong to waive rules. That makes it UN-FAIR for the rest of the playing field. If one person gets tan exemption, then the rule should be abandond, since it is obviously a no longer needed rule.

Oh and how could I forget. The LPGA waived its minimum age requirement for Aree Song and Morgan Pressel. And guess what, a lot of people have criticized Michelle Wie for not asking the LPGA to waive their minimum age requirement so she could join the LPGA early. Their idea was that the LPGA has such little regard for their own rules that a waiver of the minimum age in Michelle Wie's case would be just a formality.

John D now maintains that the 88 Rule should not have been applied to Michelle Wie since a year earlier it had been waived for Dakota Dowd which now means it should have been abandoned after that.

Jim C,

Annika is an adult woman, a Hall of Famer in her chosen profession.

She graciously invited Bubbles to a tournament at which she was the hostess.

Bubbles is a snot-nosed, spoiled-brat teenybopper.

Bubbles unceremoniously and in a very phony manner, abruptly withdrew from that event, offering not even a piss poor explanation to her hostess.

Jim C, if you don't see anything wrong with such conduct, and you think that Annika's behavior was somehow misdirected, you have real problem, pal.

ALEX

Michelle Wie acted in a manner that was totslly within the rules, and she avoided a year's ban in a manner that would have been available to any other sponsor's exemption. In fact she acted in the manner in which the rule was intended to get players to act.

Actually I think you are mmistaken about Annika. It is Annika who is the snot-nosed spoiled brat. Just ask Vijay Singh. Annika and her PC crowd rssponded to the gracious invitstion to the 2003 Colonisl by forcing defending champion Vijay Singh to witdraw from that event for the PC crime of expressing an off the record hope that she would miss the cut, which she did.

I have 4 questions for you?

1. Does Annika owe Vijay an apology?

2. To your knowledge, has Annika given Vijay an apology?

3. In the light of the answers to 1 ans 2, does Annika deserve to receive an apolgy from Michelle?

4. Who has the better claim to being an injured party. Vijay or Annika?

The thing that bothers me most about the Ginn withdrawal is not that Michelle withdrew, but it's the fact that LPGA definitely caused the withdrawal by alerting them of the rule (I believe that she truly wasn't aware of it until then) and then afterwards pretended that they had nothing to do with it, leaving Michelle to take all the heat for it. Did you hear Carolyn Biven's bogus explanation for why the LPGA official contacted the Wie family right before the withdrawal? Supposedly it was to clarify the previous rule situation when Michelle's father gave unsolicited advice. I find that explanation bogus, and that's 100% the fault of the LPGA. Michelle didn't ask to be protected from the rule, she was clearly ignorant of it. When the LPGA alerted her of that rule she of course did the only thing she could do, what they wanted her to do. But then she was left to explain herself to the media, and the LPGA just abandoned her. Very nice, Ms. Bivens. Then Ms. Bivens had the nerve to try and protect the image of the LPGA by hypocritically joining in the criticism by Annika and lying about why the LPGA official went up to the Wies, pretending they had nothing to do with it.

After all that, no wonder that Michelle didn't feel like she owed Annika an apology. It should've been the LPGA apologizing, or at least sharing half of the blame.

Back to the original post...I do think this tournament was important for Michelle's development even though it will be one of the worst results ever for her. She didn't give up. She didn't give up on making the cut, she didn't give up on the final round when she knew it was possible she might shoot an even worse score. Deep down she's got some steel. The pressure was on and she learned how to survive. And that's something good to build on.

Did Vijay host Colonial?

Jim C,

The more I read your ridiculous rantings, the more I'm convinced...you need a good slapping!

Alex

We have disagreed in the past. But I would hope you would clarify an issue for me. Is it appropriate for one poster to advocate physical violence against another poster? I think it proves a lot of what I have been saying about Annika, that my views about her have led an Annika supporter to advocate physical violence against me. At this point my disagreement with Alex takes second place. As Alex said, I have a real problem. At this point my problem is people like the previous poster who is supporting physicsl violence against me. I happen to think this view supporting violence sgsinst me comes from a PC supporter of Annika, not an opponent of PC. Any thoughts Alex?

Jim C,

As I said, you have a problem, my friend, a serious problem.

I disagree with InTheBunker. You should not be slapped. It would not solve your problem.

A good, old northside Chicago a**-kicking might have more lasting effect.

Not that I'm advocating violence. Just musing.

So In the Bunker is more convinced that I need a good slapping, while lawyer Alex muses about me getting a good old fashioned northside Chicago a** kicking. As a lawyer, however, he is not advocating violence. Annika has some violence prone supporters. No wonder Annika is so popular in the LPGA. Those ladies don't want to get beat up.

Jim C,

Quite frankly, you do have a problem, and I'll tell you what it is. You are an immoral man. You either have no sense of right and wrong, or you are willing justify anything of which an object of your affection may be guilty. Either way, you have a poor sense of right and wrong. I guess your mother failed in that regard. You remind me much of the Clinton apologists.

By the way, when was it ever alleged that Sorenstam forced Singh to withdraw from the Colonial? That was never the story.

Amazing all the PC defenders that Annika has who care nothing for Vijay's rights. His off the record quotes were made public, and all the PC crowd attacked him so viscously that his life would have been miserable if he had stayed on at the tournament where he was the defending champion, but which had been hijacked by Annika.

Hudge Samails you are such a PC nit pickerm you could very easily have been a Clinton apologist. How many people really believe that Vijay would have withdrawn if an unqualified woman had not been given an invitation to the Colonial, and then had people harass anyone who would dare express an off the record wish for her not to make the cut. At lesst with Michelle anyone who wants to express a desire to see her fail can freely do so without being given the Vijay treatment.

Jim,

Actually, during the Colonial fiasco I criticized Sorenstam harshly, even going so far as to call her Mannika Sorenscam. I also defended Singh, who is my favorite player, and scored the PC thought police six ways to Friday.

Having said that, Sorenstam did not "force" Singh to exit the event; if you mean her entrance into it was the catalyst that created a situation in which he felt compelled to withdraw, that is a different matter altogether.

However, there is something you forget. Singh had just won the previous week's event, and it's not uncommon for a player to skip a week after a win; in fact, this was the stated reason for Singh's actions. Of course, this doesn't mean it's true, as he just might have been trying to avoid further controversy, diffuse the situation and bow out with grace. And it is logical to assume this was at least a secondary if not the primary factor, but this is a far cry from Sorenstam forcing Singh to depart the scene.

Now, can we get back to your complete lack of a sense of morality?

Jim,

By the way, you've betrayed yourself. You said,

". . . if an unqualified woman had not been given an invitation to the Colonial, and then had people harass anyone who would dare express an off the record wish for her not to make the cut. At lesst with Michelle anyone who wants to express a desire to see her fail can freely do so without being given the Vijay treatment."

Jimbo,

If Sorenstam, who was the best female player in the world and at the top of her game, was not qualified to receive a PGA Tour exemption, Bubbles certainly cannot be. Moreover, you say that Bubbles' detractors can express their disfavor with the brat with impunity, yet you and the other Wiebots castigate us constantly for doing so.

Not only are you immoral, but you lack logic as well.

Vijay Singh doesn't seem to have a problem with an "unqualified woman" playing in the Sony Open.

Judge

I welcome your reasonable response, unlike Alex who muses about having me beaten up. In any case, Vijay was harshly criticized for exercising his free speech in an off the record comment. I accept your account, except that I am willing to say the PC pressure put upon Singh forced him out of the event, even if he voluntarily withdrew in response to that pressure.

Now let us go on to your charge that I have a complete lack of a sense of morality, and let us not forget that you are a judge. While I recognize that you are far more judicious than In the Bunker or Alex, I would challenge you to point to anything I have said that is as injudicious as your claim that I have a complete lack of morality.

Just based upon what I have said in these blogs a judge has declared that I have a complete lack of a sense of morality. Presumeably the judge feels he has seen enough to declare that in no area of my like do I exhibit any morality at all, and the man who is so quick to make this judgement is presumeably a judge in one of our courts of law.

Judge Smails,

Also, Annika had the good sense to realize that she didn't have the game for the PGA tour.
She said so publicly and has never tried it again.

Not so Bubbles. She and her Wiebots still think she belongs with the big boys.

As for Jimbo, he contradicts himself so often I have quit noticing it.

Jim C,

You have about as much business attempting to debate with Judge as a one-legged man has in an a**-kicking contest.

Alex,

We have to give Jim credit, though, as he is so astute that he inferred that I am a judge in a court of law.

Jim,

If you don't know why I accuse you of lacking a sense of morality, it only vindicates my assessment.

A judge accuses someone of having a complete lack of a sense of morality based soley on a person's written words, and then justifies his claim by saying the fact that anyone would question him is proof that the person has no sense of morality. I am sorely troubled by the state of justice in this country if that is typical behavior for our nation's judges.

I believe Judge Smaills is a good argument against the arrogance of judges in this country. He has been called Your Honor so much that he has started to believe it. He is used to a system where even dishonorable judges can imprison people for not addreessing them as your Honor. Judges should dress as normal people and be addressed as Mr., Ms., or whatever just like the President of the United States.

Alex and Smails,

Too bad you guys can't take your act to Vegas. You guys are hilarious.

Heinie,

Glad you appreciate our lighter touch.

Jim,

I've got news for you, the president isn't referred to as Mr. Bush but as President Bush or Mr. President.

Heisenburg,

What's really amusing is that some on these blogs provide comic relief without really trying. Oh, by the way, do you have any desire to win the Alan Cup?

Alex,

What is a pleasure is that the US Open will, mercifully, be free of the sideshow known as Bubbles. And the only elements missing from Bubbles' entourage are a barker and a shill. Although, it's quite obvious that we do have Bubbles sideshow barkers on this board -- there may even be some shills, too.

Anyway, it's nice when an event is limited to only the real pros and isn't tarnished by pitty-pat golf.

Alkex: Also, Annika had the good sense to realize that she didn't have the game for the PGA tour.
She said so publicly and has never tried it again.
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Alex, you obviously missed Annika's revised statements. She said that she thought she could easily retain a pga tour card, but that she would only be an average pga player and she would rather be the best on the lpga tour than just somewhere around mid table on the pga money list.

Stanley,

Whatever.

The point is that she never has tried the PGA tour again. Period.

Nor has any other female player with the exception of Bubbles attempted this quixotic venture.

Bubbles alone continues to embarrass herself in her futile quest. And virtually all of her legion of Wie-wee's see nothing wrong with her getting her brains beat out.

it will be the height--or the depth-- of folly if she doesn't gracefully decline the premature invitation she was given to the John Deere. She doesn't deserve any freebies the way she has been playing.

But I wouldn't be at all surprised if she goes to Silvis. Good sense and propriety never were the hallmarks of the Wie machine.

STANLEY

I missed that quote from Annika. If that is true, it is terribly insulting to the men on the PGA. Annika carefully picked the Colonial as an event where she would have the best chance to winm and she missed the cut by 4 shots. It would be quite arrogant of Annika to think
she could easily retain a pga tour card.

Suppose Michelle Wie had made only the one try at the PGA in the 2003 SONY as a 14 year old. Then suppose she claimed that she could easily retain a pga tour card, but would rather become the best player in the women's game than a mid rank pga player, and then never played against the men again. Would the Wie critics have preferred that she did that?