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  1. § Alex Email said on :
    Chris,

    Be very careful when referring to any man as a "punk."

    Do you have any idea of the etymology and the connotation of the word "punk?"

    Maybe you were raised in a very different envirnment from me. I was raised on the north side of Chicago in what most people would consider a tough neighborhood.

    I a guy would ever refer to another as a "punk", even in jest, that guy had better be prepared to engage in some serious fisticuffs.
  2. § BV said on :
    I would just like to say to "Alex" - wow, we have this thing called the "internet" now...it really makes it SIMPLE to look a word's etymology, and even their 'connotations'. Below is what the online Merriam-Webster dictionary has to say regaring the word "punk"....offered for your edification:

    Main Entry: punk
    Pronunciation: \ˈpə©¯k\
    Function: noun
    Etymology: origin unknown
    Date: 1596

    1archaic : prostitute
    2[probably partly from punk] : nonsense foolishness
    3 a: a young inexperienced person : beginner novice; especially : a young man b: a usually petty gangster, hoodlum, or ruffian (see slang) c: a young man used as a homosexual partner especially in a prison
    4 a: punk rock b: a punk rock musician c: one who affects punk styles

    I'm just guessing, but the 'connotation' availed of by the North Side Chicagoans was 3c. ;)

    Regardless, Rory is still a punk. Nice post Bald One!
  3. § Wendy (UK) said on :
    Alex - I assure you that 3c is not in my Chambers Dictionary - tweaking is one thing, that is quite another. Wendy
  4. § Alex Email said on :
    Sorry, Wendy, but BV's research nailed it.

    3c is it.

    That's why it was and is considered such a derogatory term.

    BV, one need not be brave at all to call Rory such an insulting name from the anonymity of a keyboard.

    I've never met the man personally, but several people have said he is quite a personable guy in private.
  5. § Wendy (UK) said on :
    OK - Stroppy AND crestfallen, but before you get on your high horse too much you know full well that Chris was not using the term as per 3c. Who is being combative for the sake of it? How about a nice (competitive) game of chess by the lake instead? I'll let you win (the chess game, that is) if you say you accept my apology?
  6. § Alex Email said on :
    All right, Wendy, for the sake of world peace I'll reluctantly accept your apology. (I'm not quite sure for what.)

    As for what Chris(and also BV) meant by the the term "punk", neither has made clear what is meant. I don't not know full well what was actually meant.

    If Chris thinks that Rory behaved in the manner of a spoiled child or a miffed teenage girl he could say as much. He didn't.
  7. § Wendy (UK) said on :
    "Average 3-year old in a sandbox".

    Now, don't sulk.
  8. § david benson Email said on :
    i want to hear your take on Kelly Tilghman.
  9. § Shanks® Email said on :
    Where I come from, also a rough neighborhood, punk was used as meaning "much less than a man" but without the homosexual connotation. You know, the kind of guy who would sucker-punch somebody, pick on the weak or bring a weapon to a fistfight. Now, however, that word is fully loaded like in 3c.

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