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Comment from: Kiel Christianson [Visitor] Email
Potentially offensive--certainly.
Intentional--most probably not.
Unfortunate--no matter which view one takes.
Golf doesn't need this kind of distraction.
I hope it becomes a "non-issue" for everyone
soon.
2008-01-09 @ 15:30
Comment from: Brandon Tucker [Member] Email
I think any member of the media, especially those who spend hours on live broadcast - has accidentally offended someone during the course of their career.

It happens. Apologize. Move on.

The people I'm seeing on the internet who are making this a huge deal, demanding she be suspended/fired are the offensive ones.

2008-01-09 @ 15:39
You hit the nail on the head. She owes her career to Tiger Woods! If it was not for Tiger breaking barriers in Golf she would not even have a job considering she is the first female golf announcer. SHe owes the man an apology as well as her career. Then we can all move on.
2008-01-09 @ 16:03
Comment from: Karan Ilowite [Visitor] Email
How is Tilghman's comment any different than Don Imus' remark? Where's Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson when you need him. She's horrible on the Golf Channel and I hope she gets the boot!
2008-01-09 @ 16:36
Comment from: sean [Visitor] Email
Can she make the same mistake again? A word of advice for her: Calm down, and say what you can handle. I watch her all the time and I can see that she is trying to say more, trying to be more professional. The right thing to do is be honest and be yourself. What really attracts people is the professionism that comes from the natural you.
2008-01-09 @ 16:50
Comment from: Chris Baldwin [Member] Email
BTuck, the number of sports broadcasters who have brought up a black man and lynching on air as a joke all but certainly stands at one in the last 20 years. Maybe longer. It's not your average offense.

People have the right to think she should be fired, just like you, I or Tiger have the right to think she should get to keep her job.

It's hard to downplay this one. But Tiger's view is going to speak loudest. Whether that's how it should be or not is debatable.





2008-01-09 @ 19:40
Comment from: huh [Visitor] Email
Kiel-I dont understand the fear or outright refusal for some in actually acknowledging that there are some things that cross decency? Forget 'politically correct', just pure human sense should tell you that a lynching is something you dont refer to offhand.

IMO, There cant be such a backlash to perceived over-sensitivity that people cant say hey, this is truly dumb or offensive.
2008-01-09 @ 20:06
Comment from: Brandon Tucker [Visitor] Email
I think the fact that for the next several years, when people turn on the TV and see her they immediately think "idiot", it is punishment enough.

For the record I don't believe Imus should have been fired either. Now, I don't think his job should have even existed in the first place, but to be fired for simply fulfilling his contract was wrong - and it was fitting to see he got even richer as a result.
2008-01-09 @ 22:36
Comment from: Oliver Sudden [Visitor] Email
Kelly has been suspended for 2 weeks by the Golf Channel.
2008-01-09 @ 23:48
Comment from: Shanks [Member] Email
This could be a blessing in disguise for Golf channel viewers. Now, perhaps, we can get a better announcer in the booth with Faldo.
2008-01-10 @ 09:06
Comment from: Kiel Christianson [Visitor] Email
huh--That's what I said. I agree that was truly dumb, I said it was unfortunate, and offensive for some people (myself included).
Some insensitive types were not offended; hence the use of "potentially" in the previous comment.
2008-01-10 @ 09:26
Comment from: Joe R [Visitor] Email
I think the overreaction is a bit silly. Surely her choice of words was quite unfortunate but anyone with a brain knows what she meant. We have seen this before when someone is too dominant in a sport. She was actually paying Tiger the highest compliment but the words were a very poor choice. The point is if the younger guys want to win then find a way to keep Tiger out of the Tournament. It was a JOKE (a poorly worded one) and we should move on. Tiger knows Kelly and knows that the words were not meant to be racist or mean.

Once again Tiger has shown the true gentleman that he is and should be an example to others no matter which race. Tiger has moved on and so should we.
2008-01-10 @ 12:03
Comment from: BV [Visitor] Email
Why is EVERYTHING always about Black people?? The Golf Channel article mentions that some 2000+ Blacks had been lynched in the US. WHY didn't they count the number of Whites and Hispanics who were hung (lynched, most often, without benefit of law or trial) for horse theft and murder in the West and Southwest during the post-Civil War era?

What she said was in JEST. It was definitely in POOR TASTE, and a suspension (or a fine) the correct response. Al Sharpton needs to sit down, shut up, and move on. MOST Americans are simply TIRED of him and the divisiveness he engenders.
2008-01-10 @ 14:14
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor] Email
BV,

Everything is always about black people because we've been cowed by political correctness. It may not last forever, though. Ever hear of going to the well once too often?

Keep pushing, left-wing scum, keep pushing.
2008-01-10 @ 17:19
Comment from: Oliver Sudden [Visitor] Email
There is what is right and there is reality. Reality is Kelly has had it. The Golf Channel and their sponsors just don't want this kind of controversy and the quickest way to end it is fire her. From a business point of view it just isn't worth the threatened boycotts and media attention which are sure to follow. Too bad Kelly.
2008-01-10 @ 18:24
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Those Black folks demanding Kelly's demise as a commentator for her ill-conceived remark remind me of a recent dissertation by a Black woman that I saw on television.

This woman was decrying all the racism that still existed in White-dominated America.

She then waxed ecstatic about how ALL her ancestors had either perished in the mythical "middle passage" or had been systematically lynched or otherwise murdered by their White masters on the plantations.

She then went on to say that she was a third generation native of the city of Chicago and that her great-grandmother was still living at age ninety-six. Also that her family had a yearly reunion wher often upwards of one hundred people attended.
2008-01-10 @ 18:29
Comment from: Oui Oui Oui [Visitor] Email
If I were Kelly, I'd blame the momentary lapse of judgment on the Canadians or the French.

2008-01-11 @ 06:40
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor] Email
"I've done television and radio (and kept my day job) and am well aware of how difficult it is to maintain complete control of my idiolect when the lights go on."

I'll bet, Ron Mon; you have trouble maintaining it here on the board.
2008-01-11 @ 13:12
Comment from: Sid [Visitor] Email
Tiger said this is no big deal...case
closed!

Al Sharpton [an FBI informer with overly-
processed hair] should be ignored
2008-01-11 @ 15:05
Comment from: Ann [Visitor]
I agree with Chris Baldwin's views regarding the Tillghman’s utterly racist comment however non-ill intent it was.

It is more troubling that Tilghman’s apology, which is a non-apology given her phraseology, “…if I had offended anyone…” Tilghman has worked on television long enough, old enough and educated enough to know that parsing an apology is simply avoiding to take responsibility for her choice of words. She is supposedly a friend of TW therefore makes the supposedly “funny moment” doubly insensitive and disrespectful because if that is how she treats her famous friend, imagine how she truly regards other people of color who are mere mortals. She got off easy with TW because he said it was a :non-issue”, but the fact is golf is a sport that has always had a stigma of a bunch of rich white men or women whose country clubs exclude just about everyone who is not them.

To this day, golf remains remarkably white within and without the PGA and related tours, with the sole exception of Tiger Woods is the dominant golfer who is also a dominant American person of color. When Tiger Woods won his first Masters, we all knew that he didn’t just win his first Major, he also won in all-white enclave, golf, PGA, and the Augusta Golf Club.

Shame on Golf Channel’s Kelly Tilghman for even parsing her feeble apology …

By the way, it is not about political correctness, but to respect the diversity within our society.

2008-01-11 @ 21:09
Comment from: Trevor Stevens [Visitor] Email
This is a collosal waste of time.

The people with differed opinions are not going to be able to convince the other camp to change their mind.

This is bonker!
2008-01-12 @ 08:08
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Ann,

In your opinion, what would be the proper penalty for Kelly to pay for her deliberate and scurrilous insult to all "people of color?"

Should she be imprisoned indefinitely for committing an intentional "hate crime?"

Or would a sentence of house arrest and lifetime supervised probation be sufficient?

Her accuser, Al Sharpton, was sued and found liable for falsely and repeatedly accusing a Duchess county prosecutor of raping a teenage girl. He has never paid a cent of that judgment. What should be his punishment?
2008-01-12 @ 09:37
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor] Email
Well done, Alex. Having Sharpton be the inquisitor here is like the pot calling the kettle black . . . er, or something like that.
2008-01-12 @ 16:10
Comment from: Krumhorn [Visitor] Email
This is so overblown. All this hyperventilating is over the top in ultra-sensitivity.

I'm sure she regrets it. In retrospect, another word would have been better given the blowing hard and the PC world we live in.

Look at like this. I imagine that Kelly isn't even conscious of Tiger's race. I"m not. I look at him and see a fabulous golfer. I doubt it ever occurred to her...until it was too late....that there were racial issues in talking about his dominance of the sport.

It seems to me that it's all these looselugnut libs out there that look at Tiger and see black.

......................
2008-01-13 @ 20:22
Comment from: J Low [Visitor] Email
You're kidding, right?
Kelly's comments more inflammatory than Fuzzy's? References to "little boy" and "fried chicken" and "collard greens or whatever the hell they serve" are so much more blatant in referring to Tiger's background than a single word like lynch. Zoeller's comments were not a response to Faldo's descriptions of how competitors can top Tiger; Fuzzy's comments were unadulterated bigotry based on the stereotypes he knows, otherwise it would not have come out so freely.
Let's not reference the meaning of lynching as the offending point because it's interpretation is a point of contention. If you truly want to know that racism exists, Fuzzy's statements are without question the image of what's in his heart. He was political correctness turned off. There was no doubt.
2008-01-15 @ 14:52

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