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Comment from: AJ [Visitor] Email
Hey Sergio probably just won the Vardon trophy by making sure he had a one shot lead over Mickelson at the end of the day.

So Sergio did win something. Something Mickelson has never won, and will never get another chance to win in all likelihood because of Tiger and the new kid on the block (Villegas).

So who is the player of the year? Woods or Harrington?
2008-09-28 @ 23:22
Comment from: Justin [Visitor] Email
The 18th, the first playoff hole, was "very birdieable"? That would be the 223-yard par 3 that yielded only one birdie all day? That hole is absolutely brutal. What tournament were you watching?

You're claiming that losing to Anthony Kim in the Ryder Cup is a choke? Kim made, what was it, 8 birdies? Dude, really...
2008-09-28 @ 23:56
Comment from: Chris Baldwin [Member] Email
Justin, Sergio didn't even him give himself a putt to extend the playoff on 18. His third shot was a chip. His tee shot was so lame it ended up 35 yards short of the green. That's blowing a playoff any way you look at it.

Though granted, very birdieable might have been overstating it a little.

2008-09-29 @ 00:28
Comment from: Brandon Tucker [Member] Email

If you saw Baldwin's game, you would concede that to him, every hole is "birdie-able".

2008-09-29 @ 00:50
Comment from: Kiel Christianson [Member] Email
I feel like the Sergio of Fantasy Golf: I led my league all season, then frittered away a lead over the past month, and finally--balmo!--completely blew up and lost by 20 or so points on the last day of the last tourney.

Sigh. I'm snake-bit, I guess. Pass the paella & sangria.
2008-09-29 @ 10:51
Comment from: Trent [Visitor] Email
I agree with Brandon. Sergio Garcia is a certified choke artist.I watched him blow it it on the 16th hole at Oakland Hills, he IS is the only player on the face of the
earth that would go for the pin there. He'll be lucky if he ever wins a major and i hope he does some major soul searching.
2008-09-29 @ 13:57
Comment from: Justin [Visitor] Email
I'm not buying it. This 'evidence' of Sergio choking is all extremely selective, and happens to virtually every player. Is Tiger Woods a choker? Does anyone remember he handed the PGA to Rich Beem by making back-to-back bogeys on 13 and 14, before reeling off (too late) 4 birdies?
2008-09-29 @ 17:22
Comment from: Kiel Christianson [Visitor] Email
Just to play Devil's Advocate, let us recall who holds the record for 2nd place finishes at a major?

(Hint: Nicklaus, 19 (I think)).

So, this raises the question: Nicklaus = choker?

Now, some of those, he got beat. But some he let go.

Then there's Palmer, several times, most notably Cherry Hills...


2008-09-29 @ 21:24
Comment from: Chris Baldwin [Member] Email
Kiel, Nicklaus also won 18 majors. How certain are you that a 29-year-old Sergio will even get one?

And Justin, as I said, it's the doing it four times this summer that cements Garcia as choker. Once, twice, that's just golf. Four times in big events in one summer, that's speaks to something else.

2008-09-29 @ 22:49
Comment from: Brandon Tucker [Member] Email

I never said Garcia was a choke artist, that's all C-Bald. Besides, I was playing in a match last week that was all square on 18 and I doubled it from the middle of the fairway (luckily my partner bailed me out), so I'm not calling anyone a "choker" until I get better at closing out myself!!!

Besides...Garcia will win a major before he's 30.
2008-09-29 @ 22:54
Comment from: Justin [Visitor] Email
Yeah, but you're inventing some of these "chokes." Anthony Kim dropping a basket of birdies on him is a choke? The PGA, one shot into the water (on yet another brutally hard hole), that's a choke? It's just the odds - playing great golf puts you into contention week in, week out, but the odds are you aren't going to win very often. Tiger is the exception.

I, for one, am 100% sure Sergio will win at least one major. Time will tell.
2008-09-29 @ 23:02
Comment from: Kiel Christianson [Visitor] Email
Fair enough, Chris--I'm not saying I disagree with you. I'm just trying to narrow in on a robust definition of "choke." Based on your reply, one facet of that definition should be something like "losing close big ones without winning any." Right? That's fine by me.

Now, how many "big ones" does Sergio need to win to erase that deficit? One? An equal ratio of wins to close losses? Again, I'm not disagreeing with you; it's just that it seems to me people argue about stuff all the time (golf and otherwise) based simply on their own varying definitions of the words their using, rather than on the substantive underlying issues.
2008-09-30 @ 08:51
Comment from: Shanks [Member] Email
Justin, I believe that Sergio will win at least one major also. But that doesn't mean he didn't choke at some of these others. Choking is not just a physical thing. Bad decision-making under pressure in another way to gag. Sergio did it on the 1st playoff hole at Carnoustie too, shooting at a tucked pin on the right side of the green from the right rough. That shot HAD to go at the middle of the green. Nope. Bunker. Bogey. Aggregate playoff loss by one.
2008-09-30 @ 09:37
Comment from: Mark Nessmith [Visitor]
"Choke Garcia"? Come on, Chris, you can come up with something a little stronger than that, can't you? Something with some style. Like: Señor Saturday. Yeah, I like that. Wonder where I read it first?
2008-09-30 @ 11:20
Comment from: enigma [Visitor] Email
The usual anti-Sergio stuff from Baldwin. Let's have something positive when he wins the Vardon Trophy
2008-10-01 @ 08:15
Comment from: You Suck! [Visitor]
Your writing is really bad. Did you even finish high school?
2008-10-01 @ 12:59
Comment from: Shanks [Member] Email
I've seen it all now. What kind of parents would name a child 'You' when their last name is Suck?
2008-10-01 @ 15:57
Comment from: Kiel Christianson [Member] Email
My dad used to buy tractor parts from a guy named Harry Bahls. (You can guess how it's pronounced.)
2008-10-02 @ 18:12
Comment from: BV [Visitor]
Shanks - his parents are probably Asian....and it just means something different in their country. TRY to be a little more 'culturally sensitive' will ya!?!?! Like our resident Dr Feelgood Kiel..... :)

2008-10-10 @ 13:19

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