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22
Just how conservative is golf? Seventy percent of teaching pros favor McCain over Obama
It’s always amusing how many people still don’t grasp how conservative golf and most average every day golfers are. Here at TravelGolf.com where all types of voices are thankfully encouraged, you could actually think there are a ton of liberal loony golfers out there by reading the likes of William “Huffington Post” Wolfrum and the wacky college professor Kiel Christianson.
But a poll in this week’s Golf Plus section of Sports Illustrated displays the real truth yet again.
Seventy percent of the Top 100 Teachers Poll in SI declared that John McCain is the better presidential candidate for golf than Barack Obama.
Now, the Top 100 Teachers obviously rake in much more cash than your average run-of-the-mill pro running a modest golf shop. But here’s betting that the numbers would still be overwhelming tilted toward McCain if a much larger poll of head pros around the country was conducted. Still 60 to 65 percent easy.
The golf industry’s tenants of working hard to get where you’re at (becoming a head pro anywhere is no cake walk and there are no handout head spots), waking up early to get things down and concentrating on your family fits in with conservative thinking.
The one pro SI quoted was part of the 30 percent minority pulling for Obama. “The middle class golfer is being squeezed,” Kevin Walker of Fuzion Golf said, “and Obama will benefit that group.”
Truth is, I’m not sure that I don’t agree with Walker. At least somewhat. But most of you reading this don’t. Golf’s just so entrenched with conservative ideals that no one repeating “Change” over and over again is going to be able to convince anyone they’re right. Of course, most people in the golf media don’t realize this.
They think they’re writing for a bunch of Obama believers. When they’re just writing for themselves. And each other - if you have a Wolfrum and a Kiel on the same staff.
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22 comments
Good stuff Chris. And I'm sure I do mostly write for myself. Good point.
Oh yeah, I was wondering if you remembered that blog contest we had a while back? You know, the one I won? Thus cementing my position as the most-read blogger in the entire WorldGolf.com family. I think it was that Martha Burk post I did that put me over the top. Plus people like BV, Alex and Judge Smails who will read and respond to anything I write (except for things like "send golf balls to the troops" or "Become a bone marrow donor")
You did good, too, if I remember. You were right behind me. And BTuck.
Keep up the fine work.
Oh yeah, I was wondering if you remembered that blog contest we had a while back? You know, the one I won? Thus cementing my position as the most-read blogger in the entire WorldGolf.com family. I think it was that Martha Burk post I did that put me over the top. Plus people like BV, Alex and Judge Smails who will read and respond to anything I write (except for things like "send golf balls to the troops" or "Become a bone marrow donor")
You did good, too, if I remember. You were right behind me. And BTuck.
Keep up the fine work.
2008-10-22 @ 21:15
If you think that blog "contest" was at all legit or tabulated fairly, you're more delusional than Oliver Stone, K. And you think the 2000 Presidential election was a fraud? Please that had nothing on this. That was a gift to you.
But no need to get all riled up. I never said you weren't entertaining. You probably have the best pure writing talent of anyone on staff. Which I've written before.
Way to make it all about you though K. Here I am practically endorsing Obama in this blog and talking about the larger issue of golf being conservative and all you can fixate on is your own small mention.
Typical self obsessed liberal.
But no need to get all riled up. I never said you weren't entertaining. You probably have the best pure writing talent of anyone on staff. Which I've written before.
Way to make it all about you though K. Here I am practically endorsing Obama in this blog and talking about the larger issue of golf being conservative and all you can fixate on is your own small mention.
Typical self obsessed liberal.
2008-10-22 @ 22:53
Well, someone's gotta promote me. I can't be expected to make brilliant "Tiger Woods will go undefeated in 2008" predictions all the time to get you behind me.
By the way, you know what this blog post title is missing? Sarah Palin. And Joe the Plumber. And Kim Kardashian nude. And how they all relate to Sergio Garcia sucking.
You're welcome.
But really, being the best writer here is like being the best financial advisor for the Bush Administration. Ron Mon writes every third blog, so make of that what you will. (where is the Monster? His posts are like a herpes outbreak. Annoying and depressing yet impossible to ignore. And the type of thing you only tell people about when you really have to).
In conclusion, Wolfrum's a communist who must have herpes.
Just wanted to get that in there first. Smails and the gang will be here soon enough to pile on ;)
By the way, you know what this blog post title is missing? Sarah Palin. And Joe the Plumber. And Kim Kardashian nude. And how they all relate to Sergio Garcia sucking.
You're welcome.
But really, being the best writer here is like being the best financial advisor for the Bush Administration. Ron Mon writes every third blog, so make of that what you will. (where is the Monster? His posts are like a herpes outbreak. Annoying and depressing yet impossible to ignore. And the type of thing you only tell people about when you really have to).
In conclusion, Wolfrum's a communist who must have herpes.
Just wanted to get that in there first. Smails and the gang will be here soon enough to pile on ;)
2008-10-23 @ 06:56
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor] 
Actually, Alex's writing puts Wolfie's to shame. Regardless, the Boy from Brazil is completely lacking in depth. He's like a fairly nice package with nothing inside but bile. In fact, if he were actually successful, I'd call his story a study in the victory of style over substance.
Hey, Wolfie, why don't move just a little ways across the continent to Venezuela? I hear Chavez has a place for you.
Hey, Wolfie, why don't move just a little ways across the continent to Venezuela? I hear Chavez has a place for you.
2008-10-23 @ 13:51
"Best writer here?"
Because you attract lunatics on your blogs?
Is blogging really writing?
Jesus Christ, what is the world coming to?
Because you attract lunatics on your blogs?
Is blogging really writing?
Jesus Christ, what is the world coming to?
2008-10-23 @ 18:24
I said K. probably had the best pure writing talent on staff. Obviously, no one can match your reporting experience Old Mac. Or your experience of having enjoyed the silent movie area first hand.
But what a bunch of egomaniacs you guys both are. I'm trying to broach serious topics and you hijack the thread with your need to be fawned over.
You two are more sensitive than Terrell Owens.
But what a bunch of egomaniacs you guys both are. I'm trying to broach serious topics and you hijack the thread with your need to be fawned over.
You two are more sensitive than Terrell Owens.
2008-10-23 @ 19:50
You know, occasionally I do other stuff around these parts when the mood strikes.
I do give you credit for having more Alaska Press Club Awards than I.
And I could see where your "Aging stoned golfer from the sticks" schtick would have its fans.
I do give you credit for having more Alaska Press Club Awards than I.
And I could see where your "Aging stoned golfer from the sticks" schtick would have its fans.
2008-10-23 @ 19:55
Chris,
The world economy is in free-fall, we are possibly three months from a Sarah Palin Presidency, the Bush Administration allowed Bill Ayers to escape to the hills of the University of Chicago and Judge Smails prays at the ater of an herb salesman. We're a step away from having zombies roam the streets.
All I'm saying is that it's time to get mine.
The world economy is in free-fall, we are possibly three months from a Sarah Palin Presidency, the Bush Administration allowed Bill Ayers to escape to the hills of the University of Chicago and Judge Smails prays at the ater of an herb salesman. We're a step away from having zombies roam the streets.
All I'm saying is that it's time to get mine.
2008-10-23 @ 20:20
"Aging stoned golfer from the sticks"
Oh MAN, that's funny! What a way with words!
You should win some kind of small-time blog award with that sort of genius.
I wish I had the time to come up with that sort of gold. I spend too much of my time, you know, actually "writing."
How about "Fat, pompous F#### from Brazil?"
Jesus, and I AGREE with this guy, politically anyway. If he pisses me off, I can imagine how he gets under the skin of Judge, et al.
Oh MAN, that's funny! What a way with words!
You should win some kind of small-time blog award with that sort of genius.
I wish I had the time to come up with that sort of gold. I spend too much of my time, you know, actually "writing."
How about "Fat, pompous F#### from Brazil?"
Jesus, and I AGREE with this guy, politically anyway. If he pisses me off, I can imagine how he gets under the skin of Judge, et al.
2008-10-24 @ 06:29
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor]
Nah, Tim, Wolfie isn't really important enough to get upset over. He is just a nice little punching bag, that's all.
By the way, how does the Boy from Brazil make his money? Is he a trust-fund brat?
By the way, how does the Boy from Brazil make his money? Is he a trust-fund brat?
2008-10-24 @ 10:14
He gets paid by us for winning in-house blog contests, which he will spend quite a bit of time telling you about if he gets the chance.
2008-10-24 @ 13:48
Comment from: Adam [Visitor]
Yeah, golf isn't really known for it's criminals and uneducated loudmouths either. I wonder if it's a coincidence.
2008-10-24 @ 15:53
Who knew that Wacky Wolf and Old Mac Tonight had such a little feud going? Guess they won't be snuggling up together at the office Christmas party.
Thanks for trying to keep us on topic though, Adam.
Thanks for trying to keep us on topic though, Adam.
2008-10-24 @ 16:46
Also Chris, the Jonas Brothers. They're huge I hear. Work them into a blog headline some day. Maybe get "shirtless photos" and "Colin Montgomerie in there as well. Hits will come like a pinball machine.
Anyway, sorry for going off topic. Tim, tell us about the conservatives you met on your last golf road trip to West Virginia. That'll be a scintillating series. I hear they have road kill as hazards. Maybe I'll go rescue Cheap Bastard and see if he'll write about how you can save 25% on a round in Moundsville and play a full 18 for $.75.
Anyway, sorry for going off topic. Tim, tell us about the conservatives you met on your last golf road trip to West Virginia. That'll be a scintillating series. I hear they have road kill as hazards. Maybe I'll go rescue Cheap Bastard and see if he'll write about how you can save 25% on a round in Moundsville and play a full 18 for $.75.
2008-10-24 @ 18:05
Comment from: Wendy (UK) [Visitor]
Well, at least you have the grace to dedicate the JB blog to WKW. Brilliant in that you left no button unpressed. Some of those young ladies sound really scary though.
Thought the fan club might have brought out a voodoo doll in your image, but that wouldn't be a very Christian thing to do, would it?
Thought the fan club might have brought out a voodoo doll in your image, but that wouldn't be a very Christian thing to do, would it?
2008-10-26 @ 15:16
Comment from: BV [Visitor]
*smiles at Wendy* Not being a Christian, I wouldn't know how that works.
What I do know is simply this: golf is a 'conservative' sport because it's a SOLO sport. It takes time, work, and dedication to be good.
OH WAIT - time, work, and dedication....isn't that everything Hussein Obama LACKS????? *grin*
What I do know is simply this: golf is a 'conservative' sport because it's a SOLO sport. It takes time, work, and dedication to be good.
OH WAIT - time, work, and dedication....isn't that everything Hussein Obama LACKS????? *grin*
2008-10-27 @ 15:38
Comment from: BV [Visitor]
Hey Wolfie.......that was a GREAT idea! Why don't you go rescue the Cheap Bastard from whatever Asian hell he's landed in? At least it'll keep you from posting for a while! ;)
2008-10-28 @ 12:22
Comment from: Wendy (UK) [Visitor]
Well, BV, not being a Christian means you should feel to make little voodoo dolls of all the people you so dislike ..... that would keep you out of mischief for a considerable amount of time.
Apart from the atrocious spelling, what most struck me about the JB fan posts was the swearing and the hatred expressed. Somewhat incongruous bearing in mind the role models, isn't it? That was what I was getting at with the comment about voodoo dolls/Christian behaviour - not meant as a dig at Chris in any way. I usually do that overtly.
Will someone put me out of my misery and tell me how many posts will win this competition? I mean, how does it stack up against the Taylor Hicks & old Martha blogs?
I'm not accidentally cross-posting - I just can't be bothered to scroll down on the JB one.
Apart from the atrocious spelling, what most struck me about the JB fan posts was the swearing and the hatred expressed. Somewhat incongruous bearing in mind the role models, isn't it? That was what I was getting at with the comment about voodoo dolls/Christian behaviour - not meant as a dig at Chris in any way. I usually do that overtly.
Will someone put me out of my misery and tell me how many posts will win this competition? I mean, how does it stack up against the Taylor Hicks & old Martha blogs?
I'm not accidentally cross-posting - I just can't be bothered to scroll down on the JB one.
2008-10-28 @ 14:34
It's funny how so many Americans (the "average run-of-the-mill pros running modest golf shops and Joe the Plumber types) vote against their own interests.
2008-10-30 @ 01:14
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor]
I know, golfgirl, voting for Obama is insane.
2008-10-31 @ 01:03
Comment from: Alex [Visitor]
Judge Smails,
You really shouldn't be so flippant with Golfgirl.
You see, conservative dinosaurs like us don't have the ability to know what is in the best interests of average run-of-the-mill golf pros running modest golf shops.
And what could either of us know about what's best for the millions of Joe the Plumber types?
Now, I just know what you're thinking, Judge. And that is what could Golfgirl know about the best interests of anyone besides herself and her immediate family?
But you are mistaken if you think she doesn't have that same remarkable talent for advising the masses of the great unwashed as to what's good for them as do the pundits of the Washington Post and the New York Times.
You see, Golfgirl went to a liberal college where she had the benefit of brainwashing by liberal professors. And she congratulated and received a diplomat, so that PROVES it.
Golfgirl KNOWS what is in our best interest better than we do. Just ask her.
Alex USMC 1969-73
You really shouldn't be so flippant with Golfgirl.
You see, conservative dinosaurs like us don't have the ability to know what is in the best interests of average run-of-the-mill golf pros running modest golf shops.
And what could either of us know about what's best for the millions of Joe the Plumber types?
Now, I just know what you're thinking, Judge. And that is what could Golfgirl know about the best interests of anyone besides herself and her immediate family?
But you are mistaken if you think she doesn't have that same remarkable talent for advising the masses of the great unwashed as to what's good for them as do the pundits of the Washington Post and the New York Times.
You see, Golfgirl went to a liberal college where she had the benefit of brainwashing by liberal professors. And she congratulated and received a diplomat, so that PROVES it.
Golfgirl KNOWS what is in our best interest better than we do. Just ask her.
Alex USMC 1969-73
2008-11-03 @ 10:00
Comment from: Pink Lady [Visitor]
My family is friends with Pat Perez and it sounds like the PGA West is easy, that is why Pat won. He has been playing golf two decades and has come in decent finishes and makes over a million a year I would guess. So you call these types of gofers slouchers? What is your your handicap, I know, your attitude.
2009-01-26 @ 17:15
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