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Norman [Visitor] in response to: The Michelle Wie hype disappears even before Sony meltdown? Aloha, Hawaii

Norman [Visitor] — Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:47:18 +0000

George,
Nobody said her score was better than the previous time.
We simply said her 2nd round of this year was better than her 2nd round of 2 years earlier.

We have come to this conclusion, because of the manner in which it was achieved. Obviously you know very little about golf, if you don't recognise that this 68 was a better round, than the last one.

I don't think anyone on this board has said that not winning is better than winning. However we also recognise that placing 2nd is not the same as placing 22nd, but you probably don't understand that do you?

george [Visitor] in response to: The Michelle Wie hype disappears even before Sony meltdown? Aloha, Hawaii

george [Visitor] — Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:07:55 +0000

Norman:
** EXACTLY.
I detest when people try to call it a grand slam. It simply is not. **

Sort of like when you Wie Warriors try to say it's a better performance when one misses the cut with a worse performance than previous attempts. Or when you twist yourself into knots when you try to say that not winning is better than winning.

"It simply is not" winning when one doesn't win.
"It simply is not" making the cut when one doesn't make the cut.

I know you and your fellow Wie High Priest Coulthard detest such convultion.

-George

Under Par [Visitor] in response to: The Michelle Wie hype disappears even before Sony meltdown? Aloha, Hawaii

Under Par [Visitor] — Mon, 16 Jan 2006 04:49:41 +0000

Norman,

Graf won the Slam once. However, she won the four majors in a row on one other occasion, just not within the same calendar year.

Jim COULTHARD [Visitor] in response to: The Michelle Wie hype disappears even before Sony meltdown? Aloha, Hawaii

Jim COULTHARD [Visitor] — Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:12:23 +0000

Norman

I would say her 68 this year was much different from her 68 two years ago--her 68 then was spectacular, but this one gives indications that she is a better player who might well be able to shoot such rounds on a routine basis.

Give Serena Williams this much. The traditional tennis grand slam always did begin with the French and end with the Australian. If we accept the change we need to accept the idea that there was a year with only 3 Majors.

Jim COULTHARD [Visitor] in response to: The Michelle Wie hype disappears even before Sony meltdown? Aloha, Hawaii

Jim COULTHARD [Visitor] — Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:59:22 +0000

I'm glad Alex has seen the light. Hall of Fame for Michelle Wie--and that suggestion comes from a former Wie critic.

Norman [Visitor] in response to: The Michelle Wie hype disappears even before Sony meltdown? Aloha, Hawaii

Norman [Visitor] — Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:40:32 +0000

Alex,
I have tried my best to explain how Michelle's 68 this time was much better than her 68 of 2 years ago.

Since you cannot understand, I'm guessing you don't know much about golf. It is the way this score was achieved that makes it so good, but maybe you can't understand that.

Norman [Visitor] in response to: The Michelle Wie hype disappears even before Sony meltdown? Aloha, Hawaii

Norman [Visitor] — Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:38:27 +0000

Under Par said:
No, Navratilova never did, but she was fairly petulant (my perception) in her insistence that her accomplishment be labeled a "Grand Slam."
**************************

Let Navratilova call her's a career grand slam, which is all it is.
She must be really jealous of Steffi. I am right in saying that Steffi won the slam twice, amn't I?

Alex [Visitor] in response to: The Michelle Wie hype disappears even before Sony meltdown? Aloha, Hawaii

Alex [Visitor] — Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:41:44 +0000

Under Par, Since it looks like these Wie threads are thankfully dying a natural death, I'll give you my final comments on the phenomenon of Michelle mania. I usually get my internet jollies from the kook, left-wing political sites, what with their tin-foil hat conspiracy theories. But some of the posts on this board rival any I've seen on the Daily Kos. To the Wie-nuts, nothing but total agreement with their adulation of Michelle is tolerable. Wie is their Messiah, their religion. And the prophet of this religion is Norman. In Norman's world, the fundamental physiological differences between men and women do not apply where Michelle is concerned. To Norman, Michelle's 7-over par missed cut in the 2006 Sony is a sign of vast improvement over her 1-under par missed cut in the 2004 Sony. Jim C is not far behind Norman in his adoration of Michelle. He firmly believes that her missed cut at the 2004 Sony was far more significant than any accomplishment of the pros who made it through the "Q" school. Now that she has a three-peat of missed cuts at the Sony it should be Hall of Fame time for Wie. Under Par, as we both have said, Michelle has tremendous natural ability and the potential to be outstanding on the LPGA tour. But that is not enough for the Wie-nuts. Well, I'm sorry guys, but that is as far as I'm willing to go. To close, Norman, in your customary condescending fashion you often chide other posters when disagreeing with their positions by stating that you have offered "proof" and "facts" to support your bizarre claims. Norman, the only thing you prove with your convoluted, crackpot assumptions is that too much bangers and mash can cause permanent brain damage. Adios, Alex