http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/chris.baldwin?disp=comments en-US-utf8 http://backend.userland.com/rss 60 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 20:05:51 +0000 Judge Smails [Visitor] c54349@http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/ I had written a long response to Kiel, but the system wouldn't let me post it. I sent it to TravelGolf, but I no longer have it. They ought to get the bugs out of the system. http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/chris.baldwin/2007/08/09/barry_bonds_756_home_runs_is_no_more_off#c54349 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:39:51 +0000 2under [Visitor] c54332@http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/ Kiel,<br /> <br /> Steroids are legal with a prescription as well. <br /> <br /> Using any prescription beyond its intended medical use IS illegal, whether it is steroids, HGH, etc. <br /> <br /> I don't think the Judge is making a rules-based commentary. I think he is also making a broader commentary that it is against the moral intent as well, which is cheating.<br />
Steroids are legal with a prescription as well.

Using any prescription beyond its intended medical use IS illegal, whether it is steroids, HGH, etc.

I don't think the Judge is making a rules-based commentary. I think he is also making a broader commentary that it is against the moral intent as well, which is cheating.
]]> http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/chris.baldwin/2007/08/09/barry_bonds_756_home_runs_is_no_more_off#c54332 Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:19:41 +0000 Kiel Christianson [Visitor] c54269@http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/ Steroids have been illegal for some time. <br /> HGH, growth hormones, Andro, etc. are not<br /> (with a doctor's perscription), and they<br /> were banned by baseball only relatively<br /> recently. So if they took these things<br /> prior to the rule change, it was OK? I think<br /> many here would contend that they were not.<br /> <br /> Seems to me that a purely rules-based view is is more relativistic (actually, pragmatistic) than some of the previous comments. HGH, growth hormones, Andro, etc. are not
(with a doctor's perscription), and they
were banned by baseball only relatively
recently. So if they took these things
prior to the rule change, it was OK? I think
many here would contend that they were not.

Seems to me that a purely rules-based view is is more relativistic (actually, pragmatistic) than some of the previous comments.]]> http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/chris.baldwin/2007/08/09/barry_bonds_756_home_runs_is_no_more_off#c54269 Fri, 10 Aug 2007 03:05:29 +0000 Judge Smails [Visitor] c54261@http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/ All you relativists are missing the most salient point: Taking steroids is contrary to the rules and, therefore, constitutes cheating. Doesn't ethics mean anything anymore? <br /> <br /> What amoral slugs so many of you are.
What amoral slugs so many of you are.]]> http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/chris.baldwin/2007/08/09/barry_bonds_756_home_runs_is_no_more_off#c54261 Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:42:37 +0000 Booger [Visitor] c54258@http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/ "Now no one thinks that Woods and Nicklaus took steroids themselves."<br /> <br /> Why would NO ONE think that Woods hasn't<br /> taken steroids? If Bonds looks the part<br /> physically, how can one dismiss the changes<br /> in Tiger?
Why would NO ONE think that Woods hasn't
taken steroids? If Bonds looks the part
physically, how can one dismiss the changes
in Tiger?]]> http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/chris.baldwin/2007/08/09/barry_bonds_756_home_runs_is_no_more_off#c54258 Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:01:31 +0000 ToddCommish [Visitor] c54251@http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/ Kenny, you pretty clearly know NOTHING about baseball. PacBell is one of the top three or four PITCHER'S parks in baseball. It is statistically harder to hit a home run there than say, Fulton County Stadium (aka, "the launching pad").<br /> <br /> And Mark, the elbow guard is legal. Helmets are legal. Don't blame Bonds. Other players are wearing helmets and elbow guards. They haven't hit 757 homers.<br /> <br /> And Aaron used performance-enhancing drugs. And admitted it in his own book. Greenies, if anything, are worse. Amphetamines pump you up for a game, steroids will pump you up for a workout.<br /> <br />
And Mark, the elbow guard is legal. Helmets are legal. Don't blame Bonds. Other players are wearing helmets and elbow guards. They haven't hit 757 homers.

And Aaron used performance-enhancing drugs. And admitted it in his own book. Greenies, if anything, are worse. Amphetamines pump you up for a game, steroids will pump you up for a workout.

]]> http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/chris.baldwin/2007/08/09/barry_bonds_756_home_runs_is_no_more_off#c54251 Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:24:05 +0000 2under [Visitor] c54234@http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/ Chris,<br /> <br /> I agree with some of what you say. Comparing generations, and the accomplishments between generations, is an exercise in futility. How can I compare Hogan to Woods? I can't. Different equipment, different courses, etc., etc., etc. It's a fun exercise, but we can't draw definitive conclusions from such a comparison.<br /> <br /> I do disagree with the slippery slope you present with regard to PED's. I can make a conclusion that PED's are bad, and they present an unfair advantage. So if it is proven that Bonds did take steroids, knowingly or unknowingly, baseball will have to qualify the accomplishment somehow.
I agree with some of what you say. Comparing generations, and the accomplishments between generations, is an exercise in futility. How can I compare Hogan to Woods? I can't. Different equipment, different courses, etc., etc., etc. It's a fun exercise, but we can't draw definitive conclusions from such a comparison.

I do disagree with the slippery slope you present with regard to PED's. I can make a conclusion that PED's are bad, and they present an unfair advantage. So if it is proven that Bonds did take steroids, knowingly or unknowingly, baseball will have to qualify the accomplishment somehow. ]]> http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/chris.baldwin/2007/08/09/barry_bonds_756_home_runs_is_no_more_off#c54234 Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:21:12 +0000 Kenny Morrison [Visitor] c54229@http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/ Ron Mon - Can you direct me to anything that backs up your repeated assertions about the Braves moving in the fences at Fulton County Stadium so Hank could hit more homers? Did this happen? If so, when? And how many did Hank hit in Fulton County Stadium after the alleged shift?<br /> <br /> Also, do you really not think the Giants' park was designed with Barry's stroke in mind?
Also, do you really not think the Giants' park was designed with Barry's stroke in mind?]]> http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/chris.baldwin/2007/08/09/barry_bonds_756_home_runs_is_no_more_off#c54229