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Milton Tye [Visitor] in response to: NCAA ban on Native American mascots goes too far

Milton Tye [Visitor] — Wed, 07 Dec 2005 22:36:32 +0000

Do Native American like when NCAA use they name as mascots?

William Belcher [Visitor] in response to: NCAA ban on Native American mascots goes too far

William Belcher [Visitor] — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:15:30 +0000

Blogs are nice and the attention is good, but what are we all going to do to really push the flakes at the NCAA to abandon this complete abortion of an idea?

Someone start linking and someone host a site and lets get some sponsorship behind telling the NCAA what to do with this calamity of an idea.

Arthur Medicine Eagle [Visitor] in response to: NCAA ban on Native American mascots goes too far

Arthur Medicine Eagle [Visitor] — Wed, 26 Oct 2005 07:15:38 +0000

Many schools,Civic groups,Sports teams, automotive manufacturers, alcohol makers never contact us American Indian people to RESPECTFULLY inquire if they can use a name. Instead the groups ASSUME it is ok and then make up LAME EXCUSES WHY IT IS COOL TO EXPLOIT US. I want to see Indian names off all sports teams,off all line dancing groups,off all public schools and anywhere else I have not mentioned.

Tricia [Visitor] in response to: NCAA ban on Native American mascots goes too far

Tricia [Visitor] — Mon, 24 Oct 2005 00:32:25 +0000

I totally agree with you Kiel. The names of these schools are not at all offensive.However, some of the portrayals of Native Americans are. They need to be changed but I see no reason for banning the names!

Kiel Christianson [Member] in response to: NCAA ban on Native American mascots goes too far

Kiel Christianson [Member] — Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:52:20 +0000

Chriss-

Excellent points. (And you're right, my choice of wording was "lumpish.") Did you get to see the link I included previously, from the American Psychological Association?

http://www.apa.org/pi/oema/resolution_american_indian_mascots.pdf

It concurs with what you've said. Nevertheless, I have been on reservations and in Native communities where a great many of the people (not just a few) do actually take pride in their culture being associated with sports--e.g., the Saginaw-Chippewa Band's support of the Central Michigan University's Chippewa mascot. I certainly cannot speak to the issue other than with my own admittedly second-hand impressions (not being a Native), but I don't think that being a mascot/name automatically makes people equate the mascot with "animals." It may well do so--and if so, should be eliminated (although in the long run what is really needed is a profound shift in education reagarding Native history and culture).

I still maintain at present, however, that the only true, final judge of whether a team should keep or change its mascot is the group that is being portrayed (perhaps by public vote rather than by decree of a few leaders). Taking away this right of choice across the board seems to me to smack of paternalism.

Chris [Visitor] in response to: NCAA ban on Native American mascots goes too far

Chris [Visitor] — Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:17:54 +0000

Kiel,
Of course I read your examples. You missed the point when you say that Seminoles support the use of a Native mascot- THAT is "lumping 'native people' all together". The truth is, by "Seminoles" FSU means James Billie and a handful of aboriginal leaders, NOT a survey of the Seminole population. FSU takes great pains- as does your University of Illinois- to find "representatives" of Native populations who support their viewpoint, and tons of Native mascot supporters are pouring out of the woodwork claiming Indian heritage, proof not-with-standing. These sports-fans who claim Indianness have more often than not never set foot on a reservation, never reflected on the comparisons between more-recent civil rights issues (remember Sambo's Restaurants? There were black folks who thought these were okay, despite the overtly racist imagery). And it makes sense that animals as mascots are brought into the issue: one student, when asked about Indians as mascots, said they were "just another uncivilized animal".
My point is that it doesn't really matter if you can get permission from Billie or any other particular supporter- even without rhetorical "lumping" the surveys speak for themselves. The majority of Natives don't like it. With good reason.