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Comment from: Visitor [Visitor]
Ron, was that "classless statement" you mentioned the part where Sue Witters said "she was like looking at a little kid after you tell them there's no Santa Claus?" I did think that was kind of an odd comment...
07/20/08 @ 18:15
Comment from: Ron Mon [Member] Email
That was precisely the one. It was so condescending and demeaning, in a backhanded-compliment, sort of way. I'm wondering if the LPGA is colluding against Wie in the same way that MLB is treating Barry Bonds. Don't F' with us seems to be the message.
07/20/08 @ 18:29
Comment from: MaiTaiSoo [Visitor] Email
Sorry, you both need to read the transcript of the entire presser before you accuse SW of being insensitive. She handled the situation professionally... too bad though as it cost a lot of organizations quite a bit of moola. SW should have waited and DQed her after the final round and maybe after she beat Oh Tseng. That would have been worth millions in publicity for next year's SFC.
07/21/08 @ 03:49
Comment from: MaiTaiSoo [Visitor] Email
BREAKING NEWS: MW scheduled for the Legends Reno-Tahoe Open with the men (PGA) next week. Yippeeeee, the saga continues and now scrambling to find out who will provide the TV coverage. Gotta get the popcorn ready.
07/21/08 @ 15:44
Comment from: Visitor [Visitor]
Several other bloggers with similar sentiment: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/39353-michelle-wie-no-claus-lpgas-sue-witters-no-class
07/21/08 @ 17:32
Comment from: MaiTaiSoo [Visitor] Email
Hey Ron, what about this? I have read a few detailed explanations of what happened and how the DQ is valid and all make perfect sense and I agree BUT... What most have not noticed in these explanations is that there are 2 rule books at play here: USGA The Rules of Golf & LPGA Rules of Play. The "LPGA Rules of Play" book Item 3 defined the scoring area and what happens when one leaves the scoring area which placed her in violation of the "USGA The Rules of Golf" 6-6b of an unsigned score card. 1 rule shoving MW into a violation of another rule. A perfect gotcha.

She's not an LPGA member so is it reasonable to assume that she does not need to know all of the intricacies of the "Rules of Play" like she would with the "USGA The Rules of Golf", which I agree that she should have memorized. After all, she did physically sign her score card ASAP and only another rule from another rule book made it into a technically unsigned card. So, what you think?
07/21/08 @ 21:42
Comment from: Ron Mon [Member] Email
USGA rules officials will sing eternal songs about "that's a tour rule, not a USGA one." We run into it all the time in high school matches. I don't think she has an argument other than this one:
33-7. Disqualification Penalty; Committee Discretion

A penalty of disqualification may in exceptional individual cases be waived, modified or imposed if the Committee considers such action warranted.

Any penalty less than disqualification must not be waived or modified.

If a Committee considers that a player is guilty of a serious breach of etiquette, it may impose a penalty of disqualification under this Rule.
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Wouldn't you call this an exceptional individual case? I would certainly consider it before the DQ.
07/21/08 @ 22:11
Comment from: MaiTaiSoo [Visitor] Email
Ron, thanks for the explanation.

Agree with you on the "exceptional individual case" and thought the DQ was harsh considering that she did sign the card ASAP and she already completed the 3rd round.

Maybe some day I'll have a little extra time to research the other tours, Euro & Asian, Rules of Play books and see how they define the scoring area. Makes me wonder about golfers like Tiger who play all over the world and whether they have all the different tours Rules of Play memorized like they do with the USGA The Rules of Golf?
07/21/08 @ 22:23
Comment from: Ron Mon [Member] Email
There are two sets of rules and they align very closely. The R and A and the USGA have worked together a great deal to eliminate major discrepancies. It is when the tours get involved that things change, usually to the benefit of the contestant. In this case, the contestant got screwed. It is common-sense, no doubt, and is a great example of why a kid should not be pushed into adult activities too soon...certain taken-for-granted growth steps are lost along the way. Would Wie have done this at junior tourneys? No. They would have reminded her and she would have ingrained it in her psyche. That said, since it is the only time she has done it as a pro, it was probably an oversight.
07/22/08 @ 06:36
Comment from: MaiTaiSoo [Visitor] Email
My question is if the USGA sees fit to describe the return of a signed score card within an "ASAP" timeframe, why does the LPGA feel a need to further muck the rule up with things like ropes, lines, trailers, tents, boxes, etc.? Why not just leave it alone?

By creating their own LPGA Rules of Play Item #3, they push the golfer into a "gotcha" dilemma.
07/22/08 @ 23:44

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