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Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email
At the State Farm Wie was DQed. She was second with a 67+65+67=199. She averaged 66.33 compared to a 67.50 average for the two players in the playoff. She hasn't won on the LPGA yet, but that does not mean she cannot win.

In her one try on the LET in German May 29-June 1 she finished sixth 7 back of Amy Yang on an unfamilar course--which is exactly what Annika did in her own event this past weekend. One event with a sixth place finish hardly seems enough evidence to conclude a player cannot win. After the German Open Wie averaged 78.0 in 2 rounds of the US Women's Open. She is just off averaging 76.5 on the PGA. I think she is better now than when she finished sixth in Germany.

If you are right, and we know that Wie cannnot win on the LPGA or even the much weaker LET, what would be the point of Wie trying to qualify for the LPGA?

08/11/08 @ 00:09
Comment from: Ron Mon [Member] Email
YET is the operative word that I left unwritten. She is the wayward talent that needs some direction. She was "so good" as a junior that her parents, Bo and BJ, let her step up to the next level before she had won enough at the previous one. Here is a great link:


for her complete tournament record. The Futures tour will provide her with an opportunity to win and win some more, giving her the "respond to victory pressure" that she needs. What's one season when you're 19 years old?

If she sticks to her plan of attending Stanford and playing pro golf part-time, she should schedule the first three Duramed events in March of 2009.
08/11/08 @ 08:59
Comment from: Kiel Christianson [Visitor] Email
I think you're right on with this, Ron. If she is so great, she should dominate at the FUTURES TOUR level. And if she doesn't, she'll see very soon where her game is lacking.
08/11/08 @ 10:13
Comment from: Ron Mon [Member] Email
Thanks for your opinions, Kiel. I think that she is lacking at a basic tournament level what Justin Rose and Sergio Garcia are lacking at a major championship level...the ability to focus and direct energy and commitment. The Futures Tour will essentially be her AJGA/FWCT experience that she SHOULD have received between ages 13-16.
08/11/08 @ 10:29
Comment from: smudge [Visitor]
Jim. Tell me what makes you think you can state, with a straight face, "She hasn't won on the LPGA yet, but that does not mean she cannot win." She has demonstrated no ability to win on any tour anywhere in the world, and has been given ample opportunity through undeserved exemptions. So really tell us how you feel she has it in her to win. Lots of guys out there that can shoot lights on in their weekend tournaments but don't have what it takes to make it on any professional tour. Why? because they like Wie have no ability to play under any sort of pressure. she has the talent somewhere in her, but given her path to stardom it may be many years before she comes anywhere close to realizing it.
08/11/08 @ 13:44
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email
Smudge---If you are going to ridicule me for suggesting that it may be true that Michelle Wie can win on the LPGA, are you willing to go on the record as predicting tha she will never win on the LPGA?
08/11/08 @ 15:09
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Ron Mon,

No sensible person could possibly disagree with your assessment and proposal.

I made essentially the same proposal in the past. After all, many of the present LPGA stars, including Lorena, made their bones on the Futures' tour.

But you'll notice that Wie Warrior Jim C immediately took umbrage at your suggestion.

To these folks, and also, I fear, to Bubbles, her parents, and her handlers, entering tournaments on the Futures' tour would be tantamount to going to the minor leagues.

What these folks don't know is that many of the best in all sports sometimes need a return to the minors.

Even Yankee great Mickey Mantle was sent down to the minors when he missed a sign in his rookie season.

Your suggestion makes nothing but good sense, but don't expect it to become reality.

Alex USMC 1969-73
08/11/08 @ 15:50
Comment from: Joe Cool [Visitor] Email
“I think if I played a couple (PGA events) in a row, it would be a different story. It’s just hard to play one and then one maybe a year later,” she said. “I think if I played eight in a row and I missed all eight, that would be a different story.”

As long as Michelle is mentality on a different planet, there is no hope for her career. So, when is the PGA going to give her exemptions to the four majors? Evidently she thinks it is long overdue!
08/11/08 @ 16:10
Comment from: Joe Cool [Visitor] Email
Ron Mon,
If you remember that Michelle NEVER reads "stuff" that is critical or suggestive about her or her associates. The term "phenom" has been burned into her brain and it will never go away. It is too bad that they do not take your advise and really create a champion. As long as Michelle's mindset is "I am going to do what I want to do when I want to do it" you can forget progress
08/11/08 @ 16:16
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email
It would be idiotic of Michelle Wie to take Ron Mon's advice and start planning to play on the LPGA Future's Tour. Wie has an LPGA Tournament this week. She needs to focus and direct her energy at what she will do this week and not allow herself to be distracted by thinking about her LPGA future or the LPGA Futures.
08/11/08 @ 17:59
Comment from: ToddCommish [Visitor] Email
At this point, I'm wondering if the character is Jim C (the Wie Warrior to end all Wie Warriors) is just a poke.

I can't believe that someone (other than BJ) could think that Michelle Wie is on the right path for ANYTHING.

Seriously, what would be the HARM of playing on the Futures Tour? If she wins, she learns something about winning. If she loses, she learns something about herself.

08/11/08 @ 18:47
Comment from: Ron Mon [Member] Email
Jim, it WOULD be idiotic of MW to take my advice. I'm not paying her enough to have purchased the right to give her advice that she would then ignore. Jim, she is attractive, talented and probably more than a bit intelligent (she's plurilingual, I believe, in US, Korean, and Japanese.) She, in a word, is ENTITLED to good things without having to work for them. You MUST know that from reading about her. She doesn't like to practice all that much, a necessity to be a success on tour. Remember, to be a successful touring pro, you need to focus solely on you and do what is best for you. She has the self-centered thing down, but doesn't know what's best for her. Can you imagine if Earl had let Tiger do what Tiger wanted to do? We'd have a case of "Manny being Manny" in pro golf. Sorry, ANOTHER case of "MBM." When Michelle figures out that "Michelle Being Michelle" is getting her nowhere, THEN we'll see the promise bear fruit.
08/11/08 @ 20:30
Comment from: Joe Cool [Visitor] Email
Q. Besides going to Stanford for your second year in the fall, what do you see in the future? Do you see yourself getting established on the women's tour, or do you want to try to continue to play both tours, the men's and the women's?
MICHELLE WIE: I haven't really decided anything yet. I think I'm just going to right now I'm too involved with me playing in the summer to think about the future. I think planning what's going to happen next year or this fall is going to happen after this week.

Right now all I'm thinking about is how am I going to play good this week? How am I maybe going to, you know, possibly win this? I think the planning and whatnot will happen after this week in the offseason.

Q. Would you be willing to go to qualifying school if that's what it took?
MICHELLE WIE: I think, like I said, I'm not going to think about the future right now.

Politics is the only career Michelle should consider, she is a master of "flim flam."
08/12/08 @ 19:01
Comment from: Joe Cool [Visitor] Email
Michelle played her practice round alone and had mommy and daddy, two security guards, her agents and a volunteer carrying a neon sign that read "prima donna."
08/12/08 @ 22:34
Comment from: The Constructivist [Visitor] Email
You need to play 6 FT events to be eligible for an LPGA card, so the FT is out for Stacy and Michelle in 2008. Probably will be Q-School for both, barring a surprise win from either in their last (Wie) and few (Lewis) remaining sponsors' exemptions.
08/13/08 @ 03:30
Comment from: Dave [Visitor] Email
We've witnessed so many young female players who have grown up in the shadows of Michelle Wie. The press, Jim Coulthard, and others will declare them as, "promising talent but obviously not as good as Michelle Wie." Many of these (e.g. Paula Creamer, Morgan Pressel, and numerous Asians) have kept developing and eventually overtaken Michelle Wie: they are now better players than Wie (although Jim would never admit this). Indeed, we've seen no actual golf improvement from Michelle in years.

There's no point in Michelle going on the Future's Tour. She'd only screw that up as well. She's a bit useless really, she can't do anything right at all.
08/13/08 @ 16:31
Comment from: Ron Mon [Member] Email
Now Dave, that's an asinine comment. She hasn't "screwed" anything up. She has made mistakes and more importantly, the adults who were supposed to look out for her made mistakes. If I were a right winger, I'd say "look at the marine and how well he did with his son, Tiger. contrast that with the liberal educator and how little he did with his daughter, Michelle." The fact of the matter is, Wie has no idea how to respond properly to the press because her guidance has been shoddy. She needs the humility and elementary lessons of the Futures Tour to salvage her career. A bit useless, really? I'm convinced my game and yours would be more than a bit useless compared with hers.
08/13/08 @ 16:45
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email

Paula Creamer and Morgan Pressel? Paula is doing vey well, but Morgan is struggling. Mogan's ranking of 19 is lower than the 17 she had just before her Kraft Nabisco win. She just missed the Ricoh cut. While I cannot realistically expect Michelle to outperform either Lorena or Paula this week--I do expect her to finish ahead of Morgan. And os course I do have hopes for a win.
08/14/08 @ 01:36
Comment from: Ron Mon [Member] Email
Some golfers respond well to the pressures of a big contract. In Morgan's case, Callaway. It's also noted that she is going through major swing recreation in the hope of gaining needed distance. She's clearly strong enough but needs to make the swing work better. Of all the young ones, she's the last one I would have thought would be lacking in distance.
08/14/08 @ 06:16
Comment from: Dave [Visitor] Email
Yes, Jim, Paula is doing very well. And yes, I know Morgan is struggling, but her career hasn't been a total disaster so far (she has won a major).

> She hasn't "screwed" anything up. She has made mistakes and more importantly, the adults who were supposed to look out for her made mistakes.

Sorry Ron Mon, I take that back. I thought that she got disqualified from her last tournament. Silly me.

Oh wait, SHE DID. That's a screw up. She's learnt a lesson from this, HOPEFULLY. But fu**ng hell, why are the decisions made by "the adults" more important than the ones made by her? Are you on crack? I know she's young, I know she's probably used to people running around after her and taking care of everything, but she's an adult now, she has to learn to make decisions from now on.

> ..the adults who were supposed to look out for her made mistakes..her guidance has been shoddy.

Yes, maybe, but you do not know this for sure. For all you know, all the decisions that are made are made by HER. In reality, of course there are people in the background advising her and such, but at the end of the day, she is an adult who has the right to make decisions regarding her life and career. It would be unfair to blame "the adults" for even half the mistakes she has made - that's a remark I'd expect from Jim, but not from you. She's a big girl now, Ron, and Michelle, being an exceedingly big spoilt brat, is unlikely to do something she truly does not want to do.

> A bit useless, really? I'm convinced my game and yours would be more than a bit useless compared with hers.

Just a tongue-in-cheek remark, Ron; no need to take it seriously. Michelle is obviously a far better player than I'll ever be :-)
08/14/08 @ 14:24
Comment from: Joe Cool [Visitor] Email
Michelle continues to shoot herself in the foot with two birdies and a double bogey for a 36 in the CWO. Annika had 8 birdies and 3 bogeys for a 67. Michelle will be lucky to shoot even par and will be 5 strokes back after the first round. Has Michelle ever had 8 birdies in a round of golf since she turned pro? I think her ranking of 309 in the world is just about right the way she is playing. I think even Birdie Kim could beat her now.
08/14/08 @ 16:09
Comment from: Ron Mon [Member] Email
You're right, Dave, she is 19, so she should be able to handle these things herself. My point is the dysfunctional family defense...if you haven't been properly prepared by your trainer, you need that much more time to go back and do it right the second time.

Joe Tepid, Wie had four birdies and an eagle in her first round at State Farm. The LPGA site does not record her second and third rounds, which is a shame, since they were played under tournament pressure. She had 67 or 68 in both of those, I believe, so it would certainly indicate 6 or so birdies (unless she was bogey-free.) She can make the birdies, no question. She has the game, as she showed during her lightning run a few years back. Is she a closer? Not yet. She's not even a signer. Goals for this week:

1...play all four rounds with a signed score card;

2...play all four rounds without a rules infraction;

3...play all four rounds without an etiquette infraction;

4...attend media room sessions without using quotes like "I'm playing well" and "I'm going to do what I want to do."

08/14/08 @ 16:26
Comment from: Joe Cool [Visitor] Email
Ron Mon,
Michelle shot a 75 and is 9 strokes back of Ochoa and is being pressed to make the cut. I do not think she will make the cut and I believe that she really doesn't care if she makes the cut or not. Her decision to go or not to go to Q school in September has already been decided, in my opinion. She will skip Q school and use Stanford as an excuse like she did last year. I am surprised that Nike, Sony and Omega haven't put pressure on the Wie Team to put up or shut up. Maybe they have behind the scenes. The Wie saga continues.
08/14/08 @ 18:41
Comment from: Joe Cool [Visitor] Email
Michelle will be 19 on October 11th, FYI. Now, since I bought $5,000 worth of Michelle memorabilia, is anyone going to buy it from me? Did I just say that?
08/14/08 @ 18:43
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email
Ron Mon--You don't have to mock Michelle Wie fo her scorecard mishap. It seems to me that her forgetting to sign a scorecard is more understandable than you getting her age wrong. She is 18.

Pro golf should try to market golfers as something other than automotons. Putting the scorecard responsibility on the player and mocking a player for a late signing does nothing to help promote the sport.

The scorecards should be checked, signed by a tournament rep--and then the player given a receipt. To anyone but a hardcore golfer it was the LPGA that looked ridiculous in this matter. It actually enhances the image of golf that a player could be so excited about a couple of good rounds that she would forget to sign her card.

Except for stealing Juli Inkster's caddy, it seems to me that all the ettiquette infractions have been the other way, directed at Wie not from her. All those nasty comments directed at Wie often disquised as supposedly helpful advice. You don't hear Wie making a lot of comments about what other golfers should do. That is my idea of ettiquette.

Her media appearances are fine. Most golfers don't have to face media questioning at 18 after a poor round. Nothing she has done in a media session is nearly as outrageous as your lying about her age so you can claim she should have the responsibility of a 19 year old when she is only 18. Or was that just an honest mistake on your part.

08/14/08 @ 19:01
Comment from: Dave [Visitor] Email
Ron Mon, Michelle was 2 under after 3 holes; she finished with a 3 over 75. This is another example of a SCREW UP.

By the way, I like the five-step method you have set forth. It seems like a sound winning technique, if of course she can pull it off.

Joe, maybe Nike, Sony et. al. have been putting pressure on Wie to do well. But don't forget that:

1) She has contracts with them lasting a set amount of time; and

2) Even though she's doing crap and sometimes the thought of dropping her might cross the sponsors' minds, they daren't, since she does show promise as a player.

You're probably right, Joe. She doesn't give a sh*t about qualifying for next year. Her family probably want her to get her degree. She's an intelligent girl, so I understand this. But, in continuing at Stanford next year, Michelle continues to half-ass both her academic and golf career.

08/14/08 @ 19:02
Comment from: Ron Mon [Member] Email
Jim, merely listing a series of goals does not fall under the category of mockery. She needs to take care of bricks and mortar before she handles the facade and light bulbs. And really, do I care how old she is? I missed by two months...there's no USGA rule transgressed there.

Joe and Dave, it occurs to me that I'm done writing about her for a while because her contracts and her agents will always get her spots in tournaments. The family is financially set, so they don't care if and when she gets her LPGA card. So unless she knocks over a bank or makes some amazing decisions in winning this week or some other week, I'm done with Wie for 2008. She'll be back when Tiger returns.
08/14/08 @ 19:31
Comment from: Dave [Visitor] Email
Another thing, Joe. Although Birdie Kim is probably rubbish now, she has won arguably the most prestigious prize in women's golf. So, let's have some respect for her. She has achieved more in golf than Bubbles has.

> The scorecards should be checked, signed by a tournament rep--and then the player given a receipt. To anyone but a hardcore golfer it was the LPGA that looked ridiculous in this matter. It actually enhances the image of golf that a player could be so excited about a couple of good rounds that she would forget to sign her card.

This is absolutely PRICELESS. I've heard it all now. After first reading this paragraph, I was doubled up in laughter. Players should be given a receipt? What, a piece of paper saying that their scorecard has been checked and signed by an LPGA official? It's as if you think the LPGA players are retards or something. Such a system is unnecessary at both my home course and at an LPGA event. Dear god. What have you been smoking, Jim?

In your defense, Jim, I must agree with you on one point. Michelle's image has indeed been enhanced by her not signing her scorecard. Oh, wait. No it hasn't. Stop talking sh*t, Jim.

> Except for stealing Juli Inkster's caddy, it seems to me that all the ettiquette infractions have been the other way, directed at Wie not from her. All those nasty comments directed at Wie often disquised as supposedly helpful advice. You don't hear Wie making a lot of comments about what other golfers should do. That is my idea of ettiquette.

What a player says to the media has nothing to do with "golf etiquette." It is in fact called "giving your opinion on a matter when asked for it."

> Her media appearances are fine. Most golfers don't have to face media questioning at 18 after a poor round. Nothing she has done in a media session is nearly as outrageous as your lying about her age so you can claim she should have the responsibility of a 19 year old when she is only 18. Or was that just an honest mistake on your part.

I HOPE this is a joke, Jim. But knowing you, you're probably being deadly serious.

08/14/08 @ 19:33
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Ron Mon,

Concerning your obvious reference to Earl Woods, he was not in fact a US Marine.

He was assigned in various capacities to the Special Forces of the US Army, commonly called the "Green Berets."

Alex USMC 1969-73
08/14/08 @ 19:55
Comment from: Joe Cool [Visitor] Email
Yeah, you are correct that the Birdie did in fact win the U.S.Open with a miracle sand shot that even the Tiger couldn't have pulled off. Like they say...a win is a win.
08/14/08 @ 21:53
Comment from: Joe Cool [Visitor] Email
Tomorrow Ochoa will shoot a 65 which will put her at 13 under par. The cut line will be minus 2 which means that Wie will have to shoot a 67 to make the cut. My guess is she will shoot a 69 and miss the cut by two strokes. She will then ride off into the sunset to attend Stanford in September.
08/14/08 @ 21:59
Comment from: Ron Mon [Member] Email
Thanks, Alex. Mixing up ages is something I can live with, but military service snafus are a no-no. Hope the branches can forgive me.
08/14/08 @ 22:38
Comment from: michelle_wins [Visitor] Email
Are we watching history?

Today, while following our girl play, I indeed got so excited that I peed myself a little. Quite embarrassing, obviously, but little did my coworkers know that it was for our Michelle, which makes it somewhat OK, I guess.

That double bogey on hole 6 was just bad luck. We will just have to shoot a lot of birdies tomorrow and everything will be just fine fine!!

You know, I am now even more confident that Michelle will have her first win this Sunday! For some of us, bad luck and unfair treatments in the memory bank can be great learning experiences, motivators, and confidence builders. That's why we all shout: Go Wiesy go!!

Wie will cherish and remember this historic moment forever!

Well, on to round two! Like I said, I can hardly contain myself! This is it, this is finally it! What was predicted many years ago, is finally happening! Michelle Wie is dominating women's professional golf.

Wiehoo! Michelle wins! Wiehoo! First win! Wiehoo! Michelle dominates!
08/15/08 @ 01:22
Comment from: Ron Mon [Member] Email
Nice. Now Jim has a running mate. Go Wiesy, Go!
08/15/08 @ 13:21
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email
Ron--It is mocking Wie if you think you know enough to advice her and you don't even get your facts right about something as simple an relevant as how old she is.
08/15/08 @ 14:27
Comment from: Joe Cool [Visitor] Email
"I'm proud of myself for shooting under par today and it sets me up for Saturday and Sunday."

Michelle after shooting a 70 in the CWO second round. She is only 11 shots back of Ochoa and is probably dreaming of shooting 62, 62 over the weekend. Australian unknown Hull shot a course record 65 with one bogey.

The Wie saga continues. I think she will finish around the 40 mark. Goodbye Stanford and hello Q School?
08/15/08 @ 15:24
Comment from: Joe Cool [Visitor] Email
After her opening round at the Ottawa Hunt and Golf Club, Wie said a couple of better shots during the round would have led to a better score. "I hit some pretty good iron shots out there," she said. "It's just like I said, a couple shots, just really should have had a lot more going, but it's still the first round. There's three more rounds to go, and tomorrow I feel like I can go low."

Michelle in Wonderland.
08/15/08 @ 17:36
Comment from: Coolio [Visitor] Email
Jim C -- I am so sorry that somebody dares to mock the precious Queen of Arrogance, MCs, and DQs! How can we make it up? Oh, like I said, I obviously feel so guilty, you know.
Go Wiesy, Go!

08/15/08 @ 17:45
Comment from: Kevin H. [Visitor] Email
Dave wrote: "We've witnessed so many young female players who have grown up in the shadows of Michelle Wie."

How can this be so? Heck, MICHELLE WIE hasn't even had time to grow up yet.
08/15/08 @ 17:46
Comment from: Dave [Visitor] Email
Kevin, it is very much the case.

I'm not sure what you meant by "grow up"; this phrase could be used for various different meanings. But anyway, Michelle played her first LPGA event, Takefuji Classic, in 2002. She was 12 years old; she is now ALMOST 19 (happy now, Jim?).

Paula Creamer is now 22 (just over three years older than Michelle). She was finding success on the national junior and amateur circuits at about the time Michelle started fannying around on the PGA Tour, missing cuts left, right and centre. Paula did get a mention on The Golf Channel occasionally, but was definitely seen as an inferior player to Michelle.

So, although I agree with you that neither of these women have really "grown up" yet, they both have been around for a while now, and what I said isn't a particuarly strange thing to say.

I haven't been too impressed with Wie so far this week. Creamer is four shots ahead of her, but still quite a way behind Ochoa.
08/15/08 @ 20:13
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email

You'll have to cut our friend, Jim C, a little slack.

You see, he believed, and apparently still believes, that Bubbles could and would revolutionize the sport of golf.

According to Jim C and his band of merry men, Bubbles by this time would have won many LPGA events as well as competing and possibly even winning on the PGA tour. His predictions are all contained in the archives of these blogs. They make for some hilarious reading.

Now, most of those who formerly were staunch allies of Jim C in their worship of Bubbles have seen the light, albeit begrudgingly, and have abandoned the good ship Wie.

Not so Jim C. He is determined to remain at the helm of that foundering vessel until it sinks beneath the waves.

Alex USMC 1969-73
08/16/08 @ 09:22
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Todd Commish,

At one time, I too thought that nobody could possibly be as gullible as Jim C was pretending to be. But now, I think he is dead serious.

My theory is this: The mystique surrounding Bubbles was based almost wholely on her innate ability as a very young teenager to drive the golf ball a long way.

That ability was due to her unusually tall, willowy physique.

Guys like those on the the Golf Channel---Chamblee and Rolfing come readily to mind-- actively perpetuated the theory that her game couldn't help but improve exponentially, and would lead to her domination of the women's game by now.

But that hasn't happened.

In fact, since her formerly willowy frame has morphed into one more resembling a spreading chestnut tree, her golf game now is something like that of the village blacksmith of whom Longfellow wrote.

Alex 1969-73
08/16/08 @ 09:45
Comment from: Ron Mon [Member] Email
Daily enema late in arriving, Alex? That seems a bit harsh, even in the world of anonymity. Your fixation with chests and nuts asisde, Wie pretty much looks the same, ableit a bit older. Reality is (and where your theory becomes swiss cheese) she has the long game, the iron game and the short game to succeed on the LPGA Tour. You simply do not shoot what she shoots with one club in your bag. If you don't understand this complex point, then you don't get golf. What she lacks is not competitive experience but victories. Experience winning (missing from age 13 on) and nearly winning would allow her to challenge for victories on the LPGA tour and for cut-making in men's events. Ironically, your theory best holds water in men's events, where a disproportionate edge is gained via drives over 290 yards.
08/16/08 @ 09:58
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor] Email
I've explained before what ails Bubbles, and it's not hard to understand.

She is a choker.

She feels extreme anxiety in competition, and, the greater her chances, the more burdensome the weight becomes. Thus, her whole career has centered around avoidance of situations wherein she's the favorite, ones without built-in excuses. When she was a junior playing in women's events, well, she was only a kid playing with adults. In the PGA, she is only a girl. Now she is only a student, a part-time player who has to worry about studies and can't play numerous events "in a row." Thus, how can you expect her to do well?

The problem is that as she ages and matures, the excuses become less credible and effective.

I firmly believe that this, and not some high regard for academics, explains her devotion to the pursuit of higher education. I suspect that she is deathly afraid of complete commitment to the game. Were she to go that road, she might be too paralyzed to perform at all.

Don't be surprised if, in 20 years, Bubbles is working on her fourth Ph.D. It may be in sports psychology, and her thesis may focus on coping methods and self-delusion.
08/16/08 @ 14:50
Comment from: Ron Mon [Member] Email
Now that's a plausible hypothesis. I agree that she does not fully commit. She abhors practicing and is simply a naturally gifted golfer.
08/16/08 @ 15:49
Comment from: Joe Cool [Visitor] Email
In the CWO Yani Tseng is -9 for the par fives while Michelle (long ball) Wie is at even par. All of the par fives are reachable in two and it seems that Michelle has once again not taken advantage of her length off the tee. She is 10 strokes back of Tseng and the par fives have been the problem.
08/16/08 @ 17:06
Comment from: Ron Mon [Member] Email
I have to say, for a part-time pro, part-time student and full-time fender-off of nutty parents, Wie is not scoring half bad. If we go back to State Farm, where she had three sub-70 rounds (including the two that didn't count) and add in her 70 and today's 69, she's playing like a top-ten player on the LPGA tour. If she can get today's card signed and start tomorrow in the top 15, we'll see if she can move up the ranks and prove something to herself and us.
08/16/08 @ 18:33
Comment from: Ron Mon [Member] Email
...And today's -3 is a good start. She went 3 birdies, no bogeys, no birdies on par fives. She birdied one par five yesterday. She birdied no par fives on Thursday. If (and it is a big if, but we big if everyone else, so why not Wie) she goes bogey-free, makes 3-4 birdies on the other 14 holes and goes -3 on the 5s, we have a mid sixties round, a top ten, and a lot to debate in the Fall.
08/16/08 @ 18:41
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email
Annika quote after she shot 76, in two parts.

1. I feel fine. I just didn't play well today.

2. I actually hit a lot of good shots. I just never connected. Obviously I'm very disappointed.

In part 2, Annika sounded a lot like Michelle Wie after a round like her openning 75. She also sounded like she was telling people her comment in part 1 only referred to her score--she wasn't really playing badly. She just had bad luck.

Players need to look at poor rounds in ways that will not undermine their confidence.

There is also a gender issue here. Men are not allowed to whine or cry, while women are not allowed to use profanity. How should you respond to a bad round if you are not allowed to say "My play s**ked"? You let it out of your system by whining a litle since you aren't allowed to swear.
08/17/08 @ 11:47
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor] Email
Jim C,

Give it up. You're like the proverbial Japanese soldier who has been stranded on a deserted island for decades and still thinks WWII is being waged in 1977. There is no equivalence between what Bubbles disgorges and Sorenstam said. The latter ceded that she didn't play well, an admission that I have yet to hear pass Bubbles' lips. Moreover, even if Sorenstam were in the same boat, it would simply mean she was in error, too.

As for characterizing play, how about "My play stank"? Or you could say that you played terribly, awfully or horribly, couldn't you? There are more than one million words in the English language, so it is possible to express the given sentiment without descending into un-ladylike speech.

As for Bubbles, her problem is one of modern times. She has been so instilled with the positive-thinking myth that she is conditioned to deny unpleasant realities. Her cup isn't just half full, it's overflowing even when it's bone dry.
08/17/08 @ 13:42
Comment from: Joe Cool [Visitor] Email
As for Bubbles, her problem is one of modern times. She has been so instilled with the positive-thinking myth that she is conditioned to deny unpleasant realities. Her cup isn't just half full, it's overflowing even when it's bone dry.

Judge...wow, do you have her pegged to the tee!
08/17/08 @ 15:29
Comment from: Joe Cool [Visitor] Email
One of the mysteries of golf...Michelle shoots a 73 on a 7400 + course and shoots a 75 on a 6500 yard course.
08/17/08 @ 15:32
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Judge Smails,

The recently-completed Canadian Women's Open was a microcosm of exactly what you described as Bubbles' not being able to stand pressure.

She did score fairly well, three under for four rounds. What exactly did this get her? Not a win, nor a top five, nor even a top ten. It got her something like a tie for twelfth or thirteenth.

And bear in mind, this was her very BEST showing on the LPGA tour this year.

She started the tournament nine strokes out of first, and therefore she was never in contention and also had any pressure relieved.

If Bubbles were to enter the upcoming "Q" school tournament, I believe she would have an excellent chance to advance, and an even better chance of earning her card.

If she doesn't take this course of action, that would pretty well indicate that she is not interested in serious competition.

Do you agree, Jim C?

Alex USMC 1969-73
08/17/08 @ 18:29
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email
Actually Wie shot 73-80 on the PGA course and 75-70-69-71 on the LPGA course. Her PGA average was 76.5 compared to 71.25 for the LPGA. So she was 5.25 shots per round better on the shorter course.

Wie is T12 her best finish since the 2006 Evian Masters.

08/17/08 @ 18:32
Comment from: Judge Smails [Visitor] Email

It will be interesting to see if Bubbles goes the tour-school route. I can't make any hard and fast predictions, but I wouldn't be surprised if she did not. After all, I think she likes her current status, which is attended by relatively low expectations and a built-in excuse. Moreover, while I do think she'd get her card, what if -- just what if -- she failed to do so? I suspect that just such a fear may lie in her heart. For she is the great Bubbles, and such inconsequential accomplishments are a lock for her.

Or are they?

Remember, it's a situation wherein the pressure would probably be the greatest she has ever faced. She would be the ultimate favorite, and anything less than complete domination would be a strike against her. And what if she failed? It would be the ultimate humiliation and would greatly tarnish her brand. I mean, is a girl who can't even capture a tour card worthy of any kind of contract?

Actually, the more I write, the more unlikely it seems that she would take such a chance. We'll see.

08/17/08 @ 18:58
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email
No Judge, I don't agree.

After her +3 in the 1st round, Wie was in a 20 way tie for 87th. She needed to pass quite a naumber of players in order to make the cut, and a missed cut would have been embarassing.

Put it this way. It would have been much worse for Wie to do a Yani Tseng type collapse in the final round than it would have been for her to miss the cut. But it would have been worse for Wie to miss the cut than it was for Tseng to blow the final round. After all Tseng already has won a Major this year so big deal if she blows the Canadian. Pak started the day ahead of the winner. Ochoa started tied with Hull. But they have won plenty of times before so again this is no big deal. If it is no big deal there is no great pressure.

Q School. There is no rule that says you have to become an LPGA member before you are 20. If she can't fit Q School into her college schedule she may just be stuck playing on sponsor's exemptions next year. We could hardly ask her put golf ahead of her education, culd we?

08/17/08 @ 20:27
Comment from: Joe Cool [Visitor] Email
The 18-year-old Stanford student said hasn't decided whether to go to Q-school in a bid to earn an LPGA Tour card.

“I feel like I gained a lot of confidence in myself again this year,” Wie said.

“Being pain-free in the later part of the year, I started feeling confident. From May on, it's getting better and better and now in the offseason, I know what to work on for next year.”

I have been hearing this song and dance for too many years!
08/17/08 @ 21:21
Comment from: Joe Cool [Visitor] Email
The 38 year old Stanford student hasn't decided whether to go to Q-school in a bid to earn an LPGA card.

"I feel like I gained a lot of confidence in myself again this year," Wie said.

"Being pain-free in in the later part of the year, I started feeling confident. From May on, it's getting better and better and now in the off season, I know what to work on for 2029.
08/17/08 @ 21:37
Comment from: Joe Cool [Visitor] Email
Michelle was only -1 for the par five holes while Yani was -9 and still lost the tournament with a final round of 77. I could never understand MW mindset with the short par fives on the LPGA tour. Even when she was playing well, she did not attack the par fives like I thought she would.

Michelle WILL NOT attend Q-school in September!
08/17/08 @ 21:45
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Ron Mon,

I specifically stated that the mystique surrounding Bubbles was based practically entirely on her driving ability, you know the 300 yard thing.

Sure, she has a fair all-around game, but that's about it, fair.

I can't remember any of the announcers on the Golf Channel gushing over Bubbles' amazing putting, pitching, or sand play.

One thing I do remember is Kelly Tilghman wondering aloud to an interviewee when he thought that Bubbles would win the Women's grand slam.

And Chamblee saying with a straight face that Bubbles might soon be winning seven, eight, or ten times a year on the LPGA tour.

Alex USMC 1969-73
08/18/08 @ 08:41
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email
Yani was =9 on the 5s and -9 for the tournament, blowing it with a final round 77. In the LPGA Championship she was =2 on the 5s after starting +3 on the 5s the first day. There she shot a -12 and won in a playoff.

Ochoa and Pettersen were each =4 on the 5s at the Canadian.

Wie shot a double on the first 5 which seems to have really soured her round. I suspect Wie will be more agressive on the 5s in the future when she is not limited to 6 exemptions per year and doesn't feel the same pressure to do well every time out.

I'm sure Wie doesn't particularly want to help Bivens out of a tight spot and give her a kind of victory by going to Q School--but I suspect that she will go. But it is her call.

08/18/08 @ 11:57
Comment from: Coolio [Visitor]
Like I said, a missed cut would obviously have been preferable!

But not finishing in the top ten and not earning enough money for LPGA membership is no too bad either.

Two years -- no win, no top-five finish, no top-ten finish in any LPGA tournament...
...quite a 'phenom' we have here.

08/18/08 @ 14:03
Comment from: Dave [Visitor] Email
> I mean, is a girl who can't even capture a tour card worthy of any kind of contract?

Put another way, Judge: does a player whose best finish in two years is T-12 deserve all the adulation, press coverage, and obscene amounts of money that Bubbles does indeed receive?

I think we all know the answer (except Jim C, of course).

08/18/08 @ 14:30
Comment from: Joe Cool [Visitor] Email
"You know, I just drove the ball so well today it's a shame that I didn't take advantage with my irons today," Wie said.

"The Dreamland Kid"

How do you expect to beat seasoned players by hitting 3 irons off the tee on par 4 holes??
08/18/08 @ 19:09
Comment from: Joe Cool [Visitor] Email
Coolio...where did the PGA Q-School come from for Michelle Wie?
08/19/08 @ 15:40
Comment from: Jim C [Visitor] Email
My guess is that Wie would have gone ro PGA Q School had she qualified for the LPGA last week. I don't think she will try both Q Schools the same year, so I think she wil do LPGA this year and PGA next year. She is certainly entitled to go to PGA Q School if she pays her fee the same as anyone else. She would not be taking a spot away from anyone else.
08/19/08 @ 16:57
Comment from: Coolio [Visitor] Email
Joe Cool... it did not come from the Princess herself, it is/was just something her dedicated admirers considered.
08/19/08 @ 22:11
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email

You really shouldn't refer to Bubbles as a Stanford student.

She hasn't attended a class at that college for six months, and she only completed two quarters of her freshman year, so she is not a second year student in any case.

At most prestigious universities, if a student fails to enroll for the following quarter, he effectively has dropped out, and will need to re-enroll and be evaluated as to his standing.

There are no sponsor's exemptions at schools like Stanford.

Alex USMC 1969-73
08/21/08 @ 19:34
Comment from: Dave [Visitor] Email
Why didn't she complete for first year at uni?
08/22/08 @ 18:36
Comment from: Ron Mon [Member] Email
She has been a professional since age 16 and she has been ineligible to compete as an amateur since then.
08/22/08 @ 20:10
Comment from: Joe Cool [Visitor] Email
Since BJ and Bo said "show us the money" to Nike and Sony, Michelle's bank account has grown fat. Now, it is easy for her to say that her priorities are college first and golf second. It is decision time for her sponsors to extend her contract. As usual, it is the wait and see game with Bubbles.
08/22/08 @ 22:05
Comment from: Dave [Visitor] Email
But why didn't she complete her first year at uni? She's taking the pis* now - who else would get away with not attending six months' worth of classes, not completing the requirements to enrol as a second year student, but all the while being given a second chance to complete her first year all over again, at Stanford?

Why has she just pis*ed her first year up the wall? Why isn't she taking anything seriously anymore?

Stupid girl.
08/23/08 @ 10:38
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email

No one should be at all surprised at Bubbles' reluctance to take either her golf game or her education seriously.

To strive to excel at golf or in college requires WORK, and that is one thing that is anathema to Bubbles.

And who can really blame her?

I believe that the Greek philosper Plato offered that "Necessity is the mother of invention," the meaning is obvious. If one NEEDS to accomplish something, he will try as mightily as he can to accomplish it.

In Bubbles' case, there is no necessity. If the numbers are anywhere near correct, she has been given in endorsement money probably twenty times that which she will ever earn on the golf course.

Any ardor to excel has been dampened, and if she ever had any "fire in her belly," it has all but been extinguished.

She has often said that her goal on the LPGA tour is to "have fun." Nothing about the hard work it might take to succeed.

She has been imbued with the myth that she is something very special since before her teen years began. She believes this myth. Getting a person so enamored of their own imagined supremity to labor diligently is practically impossible. Why do you suppose that she so dislikes practice?

Bubbles is in the same mode of thought as the thousands of "trust fund babies" who firmly believe that any sort of work is beneath them.

Alex USMC 1969-73
08/24/08 @ 11:32
Comment from: Ron Mon [Member] Email
Good Point, Al. She has never stated any of her goals in golf. Nothing remotely close to Tiger's desire to eclipse Jack. Has MW ever mentioned Betsy Rawls, the Babe, Mickey Wright, Nancy, or Annika (or Jackie Pung, for that matter?) I was one of the many that were quick to jump to a strict and equal comparison between the two wunderkind of the turn of the millenium...serves me right.
08/24/08 @ 11:48
Comment from: Dave [Visitor] Email
Alex, you're right on the money there.
08/26/08 @ 12:29
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