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Boola Boss [Visitor] in response to: Golf Media Triangle: Tiger Woods at Dubai, Michelle Wie, and John Daly

Boola Boss [Visitor] — Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:31:15 +0000

David wrote: "In short, she's too busy trying to beat the men when she hasn't even beaten the women yet!

David - Michelle is NOT trying to beat the men! She is simply trying to become the youngest, and first in over 60 years to make a PGA CUT!

As far as beating the women on the LPGA tour - THAT could very well happen this week whwn she wins the Fields Open on her home course in Honolulu!

Jim COULTHARD [Visitor] in response to: Golf Media Triangle: Tiger Woods at Dubai, Michelle Wie, and John Daly

Jim COULTHARD [Visitor] — Sun, 12 Feb 2006 05:09:23 +0000

Last year Morgan Pressel lost in the 3rd round of the USGA Junior Girls--and hardly anyone noticed. There is no courage involved in competing in events where you are expected to win if no one is going to notice when you don't. What about Annika? She was supposed to win the 3rd leg of the grand slam, but when she didn't no one noticed. All they could talk about was the poor performance of a 15 year old amateur who tied Annika for 23rd place.
Indeed, I am not aware of any female golfer other than Michelle Wie who is ever criticised for poor performance--except when Wie defenders are trying to point out this double standard. Look at the ANZ Masters. The news was Amy Yang's win--not Karrie Webb's poor performance. Indeed, on travel golf it seems like the person who came in for the most criticism beacuse of the results in the ANZ Masters was not anyone who was there--but Michelle Wie, because Amy Yang has a pro win and Michelle Wie dioesn't. At least wait until later this month when Michelle has a chance to play in her first LPGA event of the year.

Johnny N. [Visitor] in response to: Golf Media Triangle: Tiger Woods at Dubai, Michelle Wie, and John Daly

Johnny N. [Visitor] — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:32:09 +0000

When I stated:
SHANKS HAD A STORY ABOUT THAT A WHILE AGO
I meant a story in relation to John Daly walking out on a tournament.

Johnny N. [Visitor] in response to: Golf Media Triangle: Tiger Woods at Dubai, Michelle Wie, and John Daly

Johnny N. [Visitor] — Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:29:07 +0000

Trip,
Sorry but you are wrong.
I also want to apologise to any of the other people who comment here because much of what I have to say has come from them, because I have read the arguments and decided based on that what the reality of the situation is.

POINT NUMBER 1
Comparing amateur to professional tournaments is like chalk and cheese.
If somebody is good enough at golf they will achieve at the highest level. Spouting out lists of amateur successes doesn't impress me.
If those people who have great amateur success go on to achieve at the professional level, then they will be truly successful. However, achieving at the amateur level isn't worth that much.
Tiger achieved at the amateur level. Had he not been so successful on the professional level, would anyone have cared about his amateur successes? Would they have said he was a great player? I think not.

POINT NUMBER 2
Michelle Wie has tried to play at the highest level possible. You may not agree with her choice, but that is her choice and it doesn't mean that she is afraid of anything.
On the contrary, if she were to have concentrated on these lesser events, she could have won some and lost plenty, and not have had the pressure because she would not have been in the spotlight.
Instead, she has decided to play against the best players, and test where her ability is at versus theirs and try to learn from them and improve her game. This has given her increased exposure and has shown that she is infact very brave in her decisions. If she played the youngsters that would have been the easy route.
Instead she has broke equalled par or better in 4 rounds out of 8 in pga tournaments.

POINT NUMBER 3
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Trip said: "The only way Michelle Wie sets herself apart from the other teen stars(all of whom have more distinguished amateur and career records) is to play with the men, an endeavor which has proved to be a failure on every level(0-8 playing in PGA, Asian, Nationwide events) what's next the all-boys 10-under city championships. "
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Trip, who out of these teen stars with their distinguished amateur records could shoot 68 in a pga event?
Another thing is, that none of those attempts have been failures.
It was said that the Nationwide and Canadian events were takent at a time when she wasn't even able to make lpga cuts, so you can leave those out for a start.
In the other 6 attempts, she has been very close to making the cut, within 2 shots in 3 of those. What other of these distinguished girls could do this?

POINT NUMBER 4
Saying that she has no heart is pure rubbish. After the Sony first round, it was said that she went out on the range to practice for hours on end, hitting ball after ball after ball. If that doesn't suggest heart to you, then you are very misguided by your resentment.
Also, when she had a poor first round and then hit 3 straight bogeys in her 2nd round, it would have been very easy to claim a sicky (SHANKS HAD A STORY ABOUT THAT A WHILE AGO). But Michelle persevered and got her round back together, and actually scored the 12th best round of the day, in a field of 140 or more top class men.
That shows that she has heart and also the talent.

It is no wonder that she has so many dedicated fans, when she has such great characteristics.

trip [Visitor] in response to: Golf Media Triangle: Tiger Woods at Dubai, Michelle Wie, and John Daly

trip [Visitor] — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 22:05:16 +0000

Johnny--I was trying to be nice, but I'm going to let you in on a little secret Michelle Wie and her father are the biggest cowards on the planet because she ran away from playing against her peers, reason being that she would rather lose to who she was supposed to lose to then beat who she was supposed to beat. I know you and the all the Wie losers don't want to hear this, but it's true. You will argue that she wanted to play the best competition she could and that travel costs were to high or whatever, but the truth is she has been marketed as a trailblazer and getting her ass kicked by girls her own age, would not set her apart. The only way Michelle Wie sets herself apart from the other teen stars(all of whom have more distinguished amateur and career records) is to play with the men, an endeavor which has proved to be a failure on every level(0-8 playing in PGA, Asian, Nationwide events) what's next the all-boys 10-under city championships. You can tout all her top fives if you want, but sooner or later she is going to have to prove she can win a golf tournament and that's one thing Nike, Sony, her dad and all the hype in the world won't help her with. She's smoke and mirrors, big hitting and no putting, all sugar and smiles, with no heart.

Johnny N. [Visitor] in response to: Golf Media Triangle: Tiger Woods at Dubai, Michelle Wie, and John Daly

Johnny N. [Visitor] — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:31:53 +0000

This Mina girl is not showing courage or cowardise in the level she is competing at.

She is competing at that level because that is the only level that she allowed too.
Only very few of the very talented girls like Wie and Creamer get offered lpga exemptions.
I suspect that if Mina was offered an lpga exemption she would take it.

If she is that good, she will be playing on the lpga soon enough anyway and then people can judge her versus Wie.
One thing is for sure, she isn't better than Wie, just because she won a few amateur titles.

trip [Visitor] in response to: Golf Media Triangle: Tiger Woods at Dubai, Michelle Wie, and John Daly

trip [Visitor] — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 18:22:15 +0000

Playing against kids when you are a kid and have everything to lose and nothing to gain does show courage Norman. When you are expected to win you must win, second place is not good enough when you are the overwhelming favorite. Michelle Wie has showed a different type of courage by testing her skills against the very best in the world, she was risking a lot and at least on the LPGA level she has proven that she belongs, she has not won yet, but nobody would say she can not compete. Against the men she also showed a type of courage, she could have truly emberrased herself out there and she did not, she's not ready to truly challenge the men, but she has guts giving it a try. it is important to reember that she does not have the pressure to win or even make cuts in these events so she does not have to show that much courage in that regard. Both girls should be comemmded for their play and for their different approaches, just teeing it up and competing shows courage lets not forget that.

jon [Visitor] in response to: Golf Media Triangle: Tiger Woods at Dubai, Michelle Wie, and John Daly

jon [Visitor] — Thu, 09 Feb 2006 01:24:41 +0000

hc2, 5 ft 4 is still a midget in my book. Just wait a few years. Mina Harigae or whatever her name is will be trying to put on 20 pounds like so many small to mid sized LPGA players. I tell you LPGA is a breeding ground for fat ones. They want to be fat! So much for the sex appeal. I bet Pressel will gain 20 more pounds too.