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USA Ryder Cup Point System is Just Plain Stupid

Wednesday July 26, 2006 | 11:10:39 335 words, 1267 views
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What was the PGA of America thinking when it changed the point system for qualifying for the Ryder Cup? Admittedly the new one is an improvement over the woeful old system, but that is the equivalent of saying that robbery is better than armed robbery. Yes, it helped that the points are multiplied for current year performances but the other fundamental flaws of the old system was retained: points are only awarded for top 10 finishes. What that means is that an 11th place finish in the Masters – or any tournament, for that matter – has the same value as a missed cut at, say, the Reno-Tahoe Open. Theoretically, John Rollins, who currently is in the 10th and final guaranteed place on the team, could miss every cut for these last four weeks of the qualifying period and every one of the next five guys on the list could finish in the top 15 of each of those same four events and it would not change a thing.

The old system was devised when the PGA Tour was comprised almost exclusively of American players, so it did not make that much of a difference. But now the PGA Tour has over one third of its membership who are foreign-born. And these foreign-born players include many of the best players in the world who frequently make up about half of the top ten in a given tournament, thereby taking away Ryder Cup point-making opportunities from the Americans. At the very least, points should be awarded to the top 10 American finishers. I would also argue that points be awarded to any one making the cut, or else penalize points for missed cuts.

The European team qualifications are the top 5 Euros in the World Rankings and the top 5 in money earned in qualifying events in the current Ryder Cup year. Now there’s a novel idea. No wonder that team is loaded with the guys who are playing the best golf. Why even bother with a separate point system at all?

Comments:

Comment from: Johnny N. [Visitor]
Yes the system is stupid.

John Rollins got more points than Chris DiMarco.

Chris had to beat alot of top class players, apart from the Tiger Woods, to get his 2nd place at a major.

Rollins, beat a field, absent of anyone who was good enough to qualify for The Open.
Permalink 07/26/06 @ 20:01
Comment from: Jim COULTHARD [Visitor]
Are people actually complaining that a player who won a tournament is getting more points than a player who finished second in another tournment? It sounds to me like Chris DeMarco did nothng different from what Michelle Wie did when she beat a lot of clas players, apart from Annika Sorenstam, to ger her 2nd place at last year's LPGA Championship. Is that 2nd place now considered to be a greater accomplishment than winning against a weaker field such as last year's US Women's Amateur.
Permalink 07/27/06 @ 01:25
Comment from: Ron Mon [Member] Email
Johnny N. does not impress me yet as a poster on this site.

We're in for a free-for-all, no matter how you slice it. Ray Floyd, Lanny "the worst tv commentator ever" Wadkins, Cal Peete, Tom Watson, and Jack Nicklaus of yore are not coming back to play for us. It will be a wild shootout in Ireland this year.

Shanks, isn't top 15 the same as an "L" in the column in a Ryder Cup match? Imagine if a guy from Kentucky cared as much about his state as a Phil Price did for Wales, when he vanquished our Phil a few cups ago...It's all about a pride that our lads have lost. Maybe Rollins, Henry, Wetterich, and the other not-yet-names can inject some innocent, sincere pride into the Cup. Kind of like amateur hoops players used to do for the olympics. Hmmm...I smell a blog coming...wait, that's my feet.
Permalink 07/27/06 @ 06:42
Comment from: Dave Marrandette [Member] Email
I think Ron is on to something here. Enough of the Phil's and the Freddie's (sounds like a 60's rock group). Let's put a team out there who just might have a little USA pride. Oh wait, let's ditch the damn PGA Tour players and put up the top 12 finishers from the Interservice Championships. Then you'll see some guys who care.
Permalink 07/27/06 @ 09:32
Comment from: Johnny N. [Visitor]
Ron Mon,

Reality Check.
John Rollins beat a poor field, in comparison to the quality of player he would face at the Ryder Cup.

He won a tournament, that was played opposite a major. That means there were very few people watching it.

How many people will be watching the Ryder Cup?

That tournament win does not do alot to prepare someone for the Ryder Cup.
On the other hand, finishing 2nd in a major, with a huge gallery and running Tiger close, is great preperation for a potential Ryder Cup player.
Permalink 07/27/06 @ 12:17
Comment from: Frasier [Visitor]
Quite frankly, I think the US Ryder Cup selection system is brilliant.

Oh yeah, did I mention; I'm English. :D
Permalink 07/27/06 @ 14:31
Comment from: Jim COULTHARD [Visitor]
reality check

Neither squad has a selection process that is designed to pick the best team. The US actually come closer to the ideal of a system designed to select the best team than the Europeans.

Tournaments want top players--the US system is designed to concentrate points on top finishers,which keeps hope alive for a lot of guys up until the end, and keeps a lot of other guys on their toes. Only points for--no points against. Top players who want to be on the team will be keeping sponsors happy by playing in a lot of events--PGA events(+British Open)

Now the Eurpoeans take five guys from the world rankings--except they refuse to recognize points not earned on the Ero Tour for the last week. So far, so good. But the next five are reserved for the 5 highest players on the European Tour money list(excluding any of the first 5 guys). Except for the top five, and a player won't know his final ranking until it is too late, European who want to play on the Ryder Cup need to play enough Euro event to finish high up on the Euro money list. This provides incentive for top European players to play more European Tour Events.
Permalink 07/27/06 @ 23:31
Comment from: Shanks [Member] Email · http://www.travelgolf.com/blogs/shanks
I'm not complaining about who makes the side because they've earned it. It is who it is. But it steams me that only a top ten finish earns points. Just Plain Stupid.
Permalink 07/31/06 @ 11:34
Comment from: LimeyLew [Visitor]
Hey Shanks,

Some great points made by all...I'm a
bit stuck in the middle with the Ryder Cup as I'm half British...I just love watching the whole enchilada to see who has the nerves of steel. Those knees were MADE for
knockin'..!!
By the way....I like the name of that
"new" 60's rock group too; Phil and
Freddie....or Phil DOES the Freddie!
Permalink 08/09/06 @ 13:28

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