US Ryder Cup Qualifications Misunderstood by PGA and Sports Illustrated
PGA President Roger Warren recently confirmed that he was involved in the idiotic thinking that developed the US Ryder Cup selection system in an article by SI’s Bob Casper. And Bob, God bless him, showed why his Dad – the great and underrated Billy Casper - must be exasperated with him.
Warren said “The reason we reward points in the top 10 is it becomes difficult to look at a player who finishes 24th and 25th. If there are a lot of European players in the field, those are the players they’re going to compete against at the Ryder Cup. “Play harder. Play better.”
Brilliant! What about 11th place … or 12th? Why have a point system that counts an 11th place finish the exact same as a missed cut? I’m sorry but finishing in the top 20 in any full field event, especially Majors, is playing very well indeed. The Europeans recognize this and base half of their criteria on the current year’s money list. That, in addition to taking the top 5 rated Europeans in the World Rankings. And one other thing, Roger - most of the top ten opportunities lost to Americans are not being taken by Europeans. They’re primarily being taken by South Africans and Australians, along with the occasional Canadian, South American or Asian grabbing one. Here’s a thought for the PGA: use the exact same selection process that the Euros do. At least then the teams would be on equal footing.
Bob Casper, in a stunning display of golfing IQ, agreed with Warren. Then to further underscore his lack of a grasp on the situation, he quoted his father as saying “The players that are playing the best the year leading into the Ryder Cup are the one’s that should be on the team.” But most intelligent observers would agree with Casper Sr., so why does the PGA give any consideration at all to the previous 2 years performance? Bob conveniently doesn’t address that. He also defends the disaster that allowed John Rollins to earn more Ryder Cup points for winning a second-tier event than Chris DiMarco got for beating every one of the best players in the world at the Open Championship except for Tiger Woods. Yes, Rollins should have gotten credit for a win. The problem is that any tournament opposite a Major or WGC event should NOT be considered a “regular event”. Fact is, it’s only a notch above a Nationwide Tour event. He should’ve gotten about half credit, as it was reflected in the purse for the event. One more good decision there, Roger.
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We hate the Europeans....oh sorry,
They HATE us!! My mistake.....
We just hate the French..and they
At least everyone SOUTH of Scotland
B) Rollins and the B.C. Open are not second tier. However, I would prefer to have Henry Rollins on the Ryder Cup team, for the fact that he has more tattoos and a better voice.
C) As long as DL3 is not on the US team this year, the USA will triumph. My jingoistic comment for the day.
Phil Mickleson 9-8-3
Jim Furyk 4-9-2
Our top 3 American players are a combined 20-28-7 in Ryder cup play. Thats why I don't have a problem with new blood going. They may actually care about the event. And do we really want Couples at 7-9-4 and Love at 9-12-5 as the captain picks? With Europe sending even a better team than they have in recent years the US winning may be considered an upset.
1) Just because one is President of the PGA does not guarantee a high quantity of mental ability. I know. I worked for one, one that took great pride in revamping the schooling system that produces Class A PGA professional in the mid-1990's. A system that is still being re-revamped to this day.
2) Ditto on the comment from ToddCommish. Reporting and blogging from the recent British Open serves as a fine example.
World rankings PGA Money List
T. Woods C. Campbell
P. Mickleson B. Wetterich
J. Furyk Z. Johnson
D. Toms A. Oberholser
C. Dimarco T. Pernice Jr
Basically the same team with Oberholser and Pernice replacing Taylor and Henry. I could live with that team. If I was the captain I'd take Vaughn Taylor and Scott Verplank as my two picks for their ability to roll the rock on the green.
If we did like the Europeans you could just as well say we would take the top 5 Americans off the World rankings, and then the top 5 off the Nationwide money list. Are you forgetting that the Europeans are using the money list for a second tier tour--and totally ignoring money earned in events like the Masters Championship? A European could miss qualifying for the Ryder Cup because he came over to American and won the Masters rather than staying in Europe and picking up a few Euros just making the cut on whatever European event they have that week.
If we did like the Europeans you could just as well say we would take the top 5 Americans off the World rankings, and then the top 5 off the Nationwide money list.
Thats an absurd statement. This isn't the womens game where one tour is the only game in town moneywise. The European Tour overall is a notch below the PGA, but on the actual swing through Europe they do have tournaments that compare to some here. The BMW Classic, French Open, Smurfit, Barclays, Deutsche Bank, and Dunhill Links offer good purses. And the BMW and Barclays are star studded international events that shouldn't be missed by true golf fans. The Europeans offer their own version of the nationwide with the Challenge tour. And with the majors and World golf events counting to the Order of Merit what you end up seeing is the best European and International players playing 10 to 15 events there and the required number here with some events counting towards that number on both tours.
Here is what the European ten automatic picks look like today: Garcia, Howell, Donald, Monty, Olazabal, Karlsson, Casey, Edfors, Harrington and Bickerton. Who is actually playing better than these guys RIGHT NOW and being wronged by the system?
World ranking points- Howell, Monty,Olazabal, Stenson, and Donald
Ryder Cup Points- Karrlson,Casey, Garcia, Harrington, McGinley
They take the top 5 in World Points first then the next 5 who haven't already qualified in Ryder Points. The biggest change that could happen here is maybe Sergio passing Donald in world points and knocking him out and that would move Broadhurst into 5th in Ryder points.
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