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Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Shanks,

Many were predicting a Grand Slam?

Who are these "many?'

I saw a guy today walking around Buckingham Park predicting the end of the world, but I didn't take him seriously.

As far as Tiger "collapsing" on the back nine Sundau, he certainly wasn't the only one. Almost the entire field was over par on the back nine.

Ironically, J.B. Holmes was one of only a handful of golfers who were under par on the back nine Sunday.

This after being 14 OVER PAR on the front nine.
03/21/07 @ 17:56
Comment from: Shanks [Visitor] Email
You can't compare what Woods does to the average PGA Tour member. He's in a different league. But even if you did, I'll bet the ranch that the average back nine score of the field was below 43. Yes, Tiger Woods collapsed, hard as that is to fathom.
03/22/07 @ 06:31
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Shanks,

I don't want to split hairs, but we must compare Woods to other PGA tour members since they are the only one who he competes against.

It's immaterial, but Tiger was even par for the final round when he came to the 16th tee on Sunday. Then he ran into a buzzsaw and dropped six shots in the last three holes.

That sort of thing happens to the best of them occasionally.
03/22/07 @ 07:59
Comment from: Shanks [Visitor] Email
That is likely the case. He may well dust the field this week. But these sorts of things are so rare for Woods that we need to take notice.

I say Woods is competing only with history. And we might add, he's whuppin' history's butt so far.
03/22/07 @ 08:07
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Shanks,

Again, not splitting hairs, you said that Tiger collapsed on the back nine while Vijay went in the other direction to win.

As a matter of fact, Vijay himself was over par on the back nine, but only one over par.
03/22/07 @ 10:20
Comment from: Shanks [Visitor] Email
Yes, I'd call that splitting hairs. I did not mean to infer Vijay was under par on the back nine alone. But now that you bring it up, i see where it can read that way. Guess I better sharpen my pencil.
03/22/07 @ 11:10
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Shanks,

You can put that title to the farm away.

As poor as Tiger's back nine was on Sunday,one player equaled Woods' eight over, and one other, Robert Karslsson, actually did worse. He was 44 on the inward nine on Sunday.

The field averaged 2+ strokes over par on the back nine on Sunday. Three players were under par; Monty -2. and Allenby and Holmes -1. Nine others were at pr. The remaining 65 golfers were over par, some like Woods were way over par.
03/22/07 @ 12:12
Comment from: Shanks [Visitor] Email
And it wasn't like the 2002 Open at Muirfield where Woods got the bad end of the weather. He just imploded. Weird.
03/22/07 @ 12:32
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Shanks,

In the first round at Doral, Woods played tee to green as well a anyone in the field.

BUT, he made only one putt over six feet. 32 putts in all.

If he had made only one or two, it wouldn't have been so bad.

Today, Tiger couldn't hit the side of a barn with a handful of rice.
03/22/07 @ 17:47
Comment from: Oliver Sudden [Visitor] Email
I was really hoping J.B. Holmes would have 50 on the front but it was "only" 49. I wonder if any regular tour player ever shot a 50 for 9 holes ? I also wonder if Holmes, now that he's rich, isn't keeping the nose to the grindstone. Boo Weekley continued his bad luck with a 2 stroke penalty on Saturday for trying to help his playing partner by removing the pin and finishing bogey, double to ruin what would have been a top 5 finish. As far as Tiger goes, he 3 putted on 11 because he hit his par putt too hard because he knew he had to make it. After that when he didn't birdie 12 I think he sort of lost interest. He has missed some drives and putts lately, like last Friday he hit two balls in different lakes on the front.
03/22/07 @ 22:02
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Oliver Sudden,

If you believe Woods and take him seriously, you would kow that he never loses interest. As he has said firmly many times, he never "bags it." He always gives his best effort.

That attitude accounts for the number of top ten finishes Tiger has gotten when he was no where near rhe lead going into Sunday's round.

A few years ago at the Masters', Woods needed an up-and-down from a bunker on his final hole of the second round to make the cut on the number. The next day, I believe he shot a 66 and ended up top ten on Sunday.

Tiger never quits and he never loses interest. Fellows, he did finish T22nd in a tough field, for goodness sake. He had a tough final three holes, very tough to be honest, but that has happened to the best of them and will continue to happen in the future.
03/23/07 @ 08:57
Comment from: Oliver Sudden [Visitor] Email
Hey Alex,
I know a thing or two about pro golf so you don't have to explain things to me.
03/23/07 @ 16:19
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Oliver Sudden,

No need to feel insulted, my man.

Just making a little fuel for discussion.

You said that Tiger sort of lost interest.

I said that he never loses interest.

Ignore the rest of my post if you like.
03/23/07 @ 17:02
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Shanks,

After Woods' bogey-free six-birdie round today, the title of your blog seems a bit out of place.
03/23/07 @ 17:06
Comment from: Oliver Sudden [Visitor] Email
Alex, no offense taken. But you're wrong if you think Tiger never loses interest. After he 3 jacked 11 and didn't birdie 12 he knew it was over as far as him winning. Look, Tiger and Annika and the other IMG stars all say the same scripted BS "I tried my best" "I ground it out" etc. It's like a broken record. This media stuff like "No quit in Tiger" is just a bunch of hype. Do you believe if Tiger had been in contention he would have finished bogey, double, triple ? Have you ever seen him play badly when he had a chance to win ? Truth, he didn't give a GD.
03/23/07 @ 18:01
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Oliver Sudden,

We'll just have to disagree on this one.

Do you think that Woods deliberately didn't swing hard enough to make it over the water on the final holes?

If he was just trying to finish and get off the course, he could have played it safe for pars on the last three. Instead, he went for the green on 18 and paid the price.

Tiger doesn't win them all, and he doesn't play well all the time, but he does win close to 25% of the events he enters, which means that 75% of the time, he finishes behind one or more golfers.

He still has on hell of a batting average.
03/24/07 @ 07:17
Comment from: Oliver Sudden [Visitor] Email
Alex, I'm Tiger's biggest fan. I knows greatness when I sees it. What I'm saying is he might not have put his normal maximum effort into those last 3 holes. Having seen virtually every competitive round he has played he just doesn't do stuff like that when it counts, ever.

Shanks, I apologize for all these posts but felt there were some significant points that needed to be made. I like your blog.
03/25/07 @ 00:38
Comment from: 2under [Visitor] Email
You can't judge Tiger Woods by one, or even a couple of tournaments. To try to do so is ridiculous.

Tiger can make on-course corrections, or between round corrections, quicker than anyone else I have seen in the 25+ years I have watched the PGA tour.

All people are doing is feeding Tiger's ambition with such talk.
03/26/07 @ 07:49
Comment from: Mr. Wonderful [Visitor] Email
Alex...

Glad we see eye to eye on alot of blogs. With your knowlege and dashing verbage, wouldn't want to go head to head with you in a courtroom.

When someone says they know alot about a subject, the subject themselves to being an expert, who is one who to stupid to realize they know alot about nothing...

Get a kick, when your blob is stumbling, just mention Bubbles is the greatest or Tiger is in a slump and watch the idiots come out of the woods...

You taking Tiger and giving the field in 2 weeks?

Mr. W.
03/26/07 @ 17:07
Comment from: Mr. Wonderful [Visitor] Email
And "blob" is correct. Not a blurb. A blob of crap. To write the greatest player of our time is slumping, or that one of the most intellegent people ever to play of the game is a IMG puppet is a display of the "expertism" mention...

As I said, got nothing to write about, Bubbles or Slump...Gets 'em every time...

Mr. W.
03/26/07 @ 17:10
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Mr. Wonderful,

Actually, the way the oddsmakers set the lines on the PGA tour, Tiger is the poorest bet on the board. Not because of his ability but by the ridiculously low odds paid on Woods when he wins.

As an example, he only paid 2.23 to 1 when he just won at Doral. Also, he is listed at 2.25 to 1 with online betting sites. Since the true odds on Tiger to win in any tournament are about 3.25 to 1, the "juice", or the house edge is simply too much to overcome, even in a short run.

An even worse way to bet on Tiger would be in the imaginary matchups quoted by the online bookies.

For instance, Woods was -370 against Immellman in round three and Wetterich in round four. Tiger outscored Trevor, so by laying $370 one would have won $100. But in round four, Woods was outshot by Bret and thus with the same betting pattern, one would have dropped $370. for a net loss of $270.

My advice would be to watch Tiger perform and enjoy his game, but don't bet on him against those odds.
03/27/07 @ 07:30
Comment from: Shanks [Visitor] Email
Well, there you have it. The Tiger Slump lasted 3 tournaments. Perhaps that is as bad as he'll get unless he's making major swing modifications again.

Tiger Woods is creating new definitions for words like greatness and domination.
03/27/07 @ 07:32
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Shanks,

Just for the sake of discussion, let's say that Woods doesn't win the Masters', but finishes something like he did last year, T3rd, top ten, or anywhere in the top twenty-five.

Can we expect another "Tiger is in a slump" blog?
03/27/07 @ 09:24
Comment from: Shanks [Visitor] Email
I love that dry sense of humor, Alex.
03/27/07 @ 09:50
Comment from: Alex [Visitor] Email
Oliver Sudden,

One of the tournaments that Shanks includes in his "Tiger slump" was Woods' extra hole loss in the WGC match play a month ago.

Now, Oliver, you have stated that the commonly-held opinions that Woods never loses interest and that he always gives it his best are nothing but hype, the creations of IMG publicists.

So let's put your assertion to the test. In Tiger's match againsr O'Hern, he was four down after seven holes, rallied slightly, but was still three down after ten. If a player had a propensity for losing interest, not giving a GD,that would have been the time to exhibit that tendency.

Instead, Tiger rallied to even the match after sixteen holes. O'Hern birdied seventeen to go one up, so Tiger HAD to win the last hole to take the match to extra holes. He got a clutch birdie on 18 and almost won the match on the first extra hole, but missed a four foot putt. He lost it on the 20th hole, when Nick holed a pretty long putt for the win.

But now Oliver, can you honestly say that Woods' gutsy comeback performance could have been pulled off by a guy who "loses interest" who doesn't give a GD?
03/27/07 @ 10:39
Comment from: Oliver Sudden [Visitor] Email
Alex, I'm not getting through to you. In the match play case he wasn't out of it even 4 down. That's the difference, at Bay Hill he was out of it after 12. It is millions to 1 that Tiger would finish bogey, double, triple in any event where he was in contention. As far as IMG we heard the script again today after Annika shot +7 at their "major". She said "I tried as hard as I could" at least 3 times.
03/30/07 @ 19:48

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