Unless Michelle Wie wins Masters, don't expect girls in Augusta National
You didn’t really think the departure of Augusta’s Hootie would change things, as far as the ladies are concerned, did you? What, you were expecting maybe Alan Alda would get the nod?
“I think I’m aware of her positions on all issues as they relate to Augusta,” Payne told the media in a conference call. “I don’t see that any dialogue would be meaningful or helpful.”
I don’t know about you, but I’d love to be a fly on the wall in that conversation, unlikely as it is to ever happen. I think the gals can forget about ever becoming members at Augusta National, in our lifetimes.
Unless, of course, Michelle Wie wins the Masters. Even then, I don’t think the old boys would let her sit down and drink mint juleps with them in the clubhouse. Nor do I think she would want to, except for the novelty of it.
Do I think it’s wrong? Well, yes, but still, it’s kind of nice to know there’s a time capsule here in the Deep South to compare with modernity. And, I like the fact Hootie told those sponsors who were scared about alienating women to take a hike through the magnolias; they may be backward in Georgia, but at least they have some integrity.
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There is quite a few guys who comment here regularly who would agree completely with the ban on women becomming members.
In fact many of them probably think that women should not be allowed on a golf course at all except maybe to congratulate their husbands when they win tournnament.
This idea of women actually swinging a golf club and playing would be a completely disgusting idea to these guys.
So well done on your blog, but you probably have your work cut out.
Personally, I agree with you that women should be allowed join, but it really isn't something that bothers me. There are greater injustices that would get my attention more.
As long as they don't take government money, there should be no problem. All of this hoo-hah is just stupid political grandstanding by camera hungry attention whores (Martha Burk, Jesse Jackson, etc.)
The "Government" is involved with security at the "Masters Tournament" every step of the way. Federal, State and Local Authorities work security, traffic and emergency services planning issues for the event all year long. Augusta National does not repay these costs to Government Agencies, you and I (as taxpaying Americans) pay to underwrite these costs Todd. Pull this support away and the Masters is history as a tournament.
The "Masters Tournament" is broadcast over "Public Airwaves" that you and I own as citizens of the USA. Deny access to the airwaves and the Masters is over.
Crawl back on the "Turnip Truck" Todd and think before you hit SEND.
The Master Tournament is simply a private event managed & run in commercial terms. They actually survived 2 years without commercial sponsers.
The "Public Airware" you own are paid for by advertisers driven by market demand (the public). Remember the network declined when Hootie offered to drop the TV boardcast. What make you think you have a say in the club's private policy when the only control you have over the "Public Airware" you own is to turn off your TV and you are clearly in the minority.
Augusta has a long history of segregation and the other discrimitory practices of the Old South.
Why don't you ask an African American, Mexican American or another minority what they think of their federal tax dollars going to support the Masters Tournament.
You might be surprised by the answers you get.
Don't mistake my defense of their right to be elitist and racist with my agreement with them. And I'm sure neither of you belonged to the Boy Scouts when you were younger...
Some people simply don't understand the issue at hand. Women cannot become members of Augusta National because it is a club for males only - in the same way that women run clubs exclusively for females.
In St. Andrews, there are at least a dozen golf clubs based at the Links - some are women-only clubs, and some are mens-only clubs. No sexism there, it just makes it easier for the boys to get together to play a bit of golf, without all the nagging from the missus. Or a chance for the women to get together to play some golf and talk about.. erm, well, whatever women like to natter on about.
Now, The Royal and Ancient Golf Club of St. Andrews is a mens-only club, and always has been. It used to be the worldwide governor of golf (except in N. America), but now The R&A run golf, which is simply a corporation of companies which took over from The Royal and Ancient Golf Club in this respect, and women can now help run the game. However, The Royal and Ancient Golf Club remains (and is independent of The R&A), and I can't see women being allowed in the club anytime soon.
This example illustrates that it is possible to make matters fair, without letting Martha Burke ruin everything.
Women should be allowed to form their own club at Augusta, similar to the situation at St. Andrews - and should be allowed to play the Augusta National course.
So essentially, I have no problem with a same-sex club, and I doubt even Martha Burke does - females are just pissed that they're being denied access to one of the finest golf courses in the world. Hey, ban them from your stupid little club, but don't just say, 'You're not playing on one of the best golf courses in the world because you're a women.'
In the past, I've made my opinion of Bobby Jones known. He was a racist, homophobic, sexist biggot. I think all of us are just a little racist, regardless of one's race, and no, I don't like gays - but the gender thing is going too far.
Also, everyone has at least a little prejudice within them, whether it is justified or not.
And you're right, I don't need a defense, or any sort of explanation for my beliefs.
All I can say is that you are a much better person than I am.
"David, you don't know me or where I've been or what I've done.."
True, but I do know that you're a very clever man.. so when you're blogging, always realise that you're making a lot more sense than I am, and then act accordingly when replying to my somewhat erratic and rambling posts.
I am south of Newcastle, but only an hour away from it. York is also nearby.
I've only been to America a few times, but I always stayed in Florida. I have a few friends who live in the midwest of America.
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