Here's hoping Michelle Wie is humiliated in her quest for qualifying for the U.S. Open -- for her own good

To Tim Mcdonald...


You are so full of crap about Michelle Wie. If she can play good enough to qualify for the U.S. Open, so be it and let her play. The Open is an "OPEN" championship, which means open to anyone with a 1 handicap or better, regardless of gender. She has already won her sectional qualifier against the guys. She might fall on her butt in the next qualifier, but that is OK. At least she did give it a shot and did play good enough to get to that point. That is more than I can say for 99.9% of those who were eligible to qualify.


Ronnie Graves

Tim,
It is sad that you would want anyone to be humiliated and is a sad reflection on you as a person.

As regards paying her dues, I'm afraid you are very ignorant of the facts, so I will try to explain them to you as well as possible.

Anyone with a handicap of 1.4 or less can enter the US Open local qualifiers. Over 8,500 players did. About 750 QUALIFIED through this stage and got to Sectional.

Michelle Wie has QUALIFIED just as any other golfer in the field has.
So she has paid her dues in this event.

There are no special favours in US Open qualification, and none were given to Michelle Wie.

If Annika Sorenstam was there, she too would have had to qualify through local qualifying.

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Tim said:
Look at who she's competing against at the sectional qualifier at Canoe Brook in New Jersey starting June 5: Bernard Langer, Mark O'Meara, Billy Andrade, Tom Pernice, among others. These guys have labored long and hard on the PGA Tour.
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AND AND AND many other players, who are just like Michelle, who qualified through their local qualifiers and are just out there doing their best to qualify for the US Open.

Good luck to them and good luck to Michelle.

You must have been treated very poorly in your life if you think its good for a well-meaning good person to be humiliated.

Just because Michelle Wie is the first to do something doesn't mean its some sort of publicity stunt.

Its not anything new I guess,everytime someone tries to challenge themselves and the status quo you can always count on close minded people to put them down.

Your latent resentment (if you are really being honest)toward a 16 year old girl is so 1950's. Basicly your implications that a girl shouldn't dream certain dreams, be content to live in a world were girls know their place or be allowed the equality of pursuit to test themselves is so last century. You also imply through exculsion that it's fine if 16 year old boys attempt to achieve their dreams when they try and qualify every year without first "paying their dues." With Fathers Day just around the corner I bet all of the girls in this country are glad you're so not their dad.

Tim McD,

You are an evil man to say that you'd like to see Michelle get humiliated. Would you wish to see for your own child get humiliated? you should have used the word "humbled" instead to save yourself from expected onslaught from well-wishers... But then again you probably said that on purpose to attract hits just like Baldie... You too ought to seek help from a shrink.

Of the 150+ entrants in the sectional, how many would you say have "proven they can play with the men", maybe 10 or 20?? Are you hoping all the rest are humiliated too?

Publicity stunt? Perhaps. Michelle Wie donates $500,000 to Katrina relief. Publicity stunt? Perhaps. Wie donates $50,000 to Hawaii junior golf. Publicity stunt? Perhaps. Tiger Woods misses 5 out of 7 invitation tourneys. Publicity Stunt? Perhaps. Tim McDonalds article on Wie a publicity stunt? Perhaps.

Tim, methinks a mulligan is in order here.

Here comes three Moronsketeers. Now what? Here come Baldie? And here come William?

Tim McD,

Nike just did not hand a check to Michelle. Michelle works hard for her paycheck...just like you do. Why is it not right for Michelle to be in this sectional qualifier? She earned her way in just like other guys.

HoJo -- you may be right: "humbled" may have been a better word to use. In fact, it is. But, the point is still the same. And yes, the fact I would like to see Nike either humbled or humiliated is part of it. I think these big corporate sponsors are, in many ways, ruining sports.

Tim McD - You still have not answered my question: would you want to see your own child to get humiliated?

"I like Wie but..."

You guys are so predictable.

But now this this new. To hope someone humiliate herself in golf is just mean and to share your evil thought with golf fans in general is bad for the game.

Tim,
In your comment 06/01/06 @ 15:54
you said:
And yes, the fact I would like to see Nike either humbled or humiliated is part of it.
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What about Wie. In your original story it was her that you wanted to have humilated.
Are you backtracking on this?
I hope you are.

But Timmy, darlin...
you said: But, for the life of me, I cannot make myself root for Michelle Wie to qualify for the U.S. Open. Not the women's. The men's.

She isn't entered in the Mens US Open. There isn't a MENS US Open for her to enter.

She is entered in the US OPEN which is open to all golfers who can qualify. She qualified. End of story.

As for your favorite wish for MW? So what else is new? A pole cat will always be a pole cat and his odour will precede him as well as tell of his passing.

It will be a positive breath of fresh air when you either quit the arena or retreat.
Definitley a thumbs down for you, matey.

Norman, no, not backtracking. As I said, Nike is "part" of it. Wie cashes the checks.

Shame on you, Tim. No other words is required. Shame on you. I thought you were tad bit above Baldie in the human scum ladder but I guess not.

Tim,

You are a mean, mean man with a mean, mean streak

Tim,
I bet Michelle's endorsements are a bit short of the 75 million Tiger got last year.

Do you have similar feelings about him?

I predict your answer to that one:
- he has earned it because he has proved he is a great player.

So how about the 40 million or so he got when he turned pro?

Wie's been wanting to play a "men's" major since she was something like 12. Nike has nothing to do with it.

Good lord, Paul W, don't confuse Tim with facts or logic here.

Tim McD,

As Wayne suggested, a Mulligan might help you out of this... But then again, you have to meet your traffic quota just like Baldie... I actually thought that Baldie was due to come up with something very soon. But you beat him to it... Great job!

* You cannot understand why Michelle Wie uis trying to qualify for the U.S. Open? Becuase it is the national chamionship--the title for the best golfer in the land. Few have the skills and aspirations. Most of the masses, like yourself, whinge and moan like, well, girls.

Publicity stunt?!! LOL!!! That is a good one. Learned that in blog school? She has shot 68 twice as a YOUNG teenage G-I-R-L. That is freakin' incredible. You simply do not get it, do you??? I am sure you would have prefered women "in their place." Geez, what a dinosaur.

"if Wie had the same accomplishments as Annika Sorenstam..." Again more nonsensical drivel. Since when are titles the prerequisite for the Open?? This is not the Titleholder's Tournament. This is the Open...open to veryone who can meet the minimum qualifying standards.

"Wie hasn't paid her dues." Again the raving of a idiot. She is bloody 16 years old. A girl!! Who is kicking men's butts left and right. Statements like paying dues or "doing what is right for the game" are the stupidest sanctimoionus, self-righteous and hypocritical pile of crap I have ever heard. Hear that Angela Stanford and Cristie Kerr? You play to win, to compete, to be the best, to win the most money, to set records...Last time I checked, there were no modest houses in Isleworth for us common folk. Cut the crap...please.

She is a millionaire becuase of her potential to change the game...Sound familiar? If she chose, she wcould have won hundreds of junior titles winning 10-8 against young girls who are lucky to break 80 on a muni. She is a millionaire becuase she is best positioned to make Nike and other lucky sponsors tens of millions. It is called QUID PRO QUO.

LOL!! Her dream is not to play with the big boys...A statement like that comes form 100% wannabees. Her dream is to be the best she can ever be...which in the zeal of youth is the best in the world. Too bad 99.999% of lazy obese American kids do not share so drive and verve.

"Seems to me to be a money-driven dream." You are hilarious!! You seriously have no clue whatsoever. She is a teenager, dude. She doesn't dream, of money, she dreams of what money can buy...like a day out in the mall...Her handlers, of your similar ilk, now THEY do dream about money, the parasites that they are...And her parents...who knows? Probably a little of both...

"Not only has she not proven she can play with the men." Wiat, YOU write a golf blog?? Here is a short list of PGA players she has outplayed in her "failed attempts" to play with the men: Adam Scott, Todd Hamilton, Shaun Micheel, Hunter Mahan, Tom Pernice, Jr., Scott Hoch, Steve Flesch, Craig Stadler, Billy Andrade, Carl Pettersson, Briny Bair, Kirk Triplett, Len Mattiace, Brent Geiberger, Aaron Baddeley, Lucas Glover, Nick Price, Larry Mize, David Gossett, Scott Simpson, Skip Kendall, Esteban Toledo, J.P. Hayes,...that is from two tournaments...now bad for a LOL!! A 14 & 15 year old girl!!! Ha!ha!ha!ha!ha! Please, this chick, kicks big-time bootie...Oh yeah, she has tied the following Stuart Appleby,Chad Campbell, Craig Perks,Ben Curtis, Jeff Maggert, Kenny Perry, Daniel Chopra, Darren Clarke,...Spare us the bitterness...she can play...

Oh yeah, and the list is partial...

"She hasn't yet proven she can play with the women on a consistent basis." Dude, you must have fallen asleep for the past five years. Nine majors...five top 5 finishes...on a limited schedule...limited quite stupidly, by the LPGA...This year? Two tournaments, two top threes, one in a major...Hmmm...you must be one of those that feels Tiger is overrated unless he wins 25+ majors....

"They didn't just have... a gazillion dollars because they had long legs to go with their talent. They had to work for a living...." My guess is you never ran your own company...If they cannot beat a long-legged G-I-R-L created by a marketing machine, why on God's green earth do you think they deserve the big bucks? SOur grapes my friend...

"I'd like to see Wie humiliated at the qualifier." NO, you mistyped, you NEED to have her humiliated...if she makes the US Open you will implode into a den of irrationality and bitterness.

"Michelle Wie is a brand name at this point, and Nike knows the score." Of course. They are making MILLIONS off of her. SHe desveres some of the candy...Like you would say, "No, sorry...I wnat to "earn" my millions by beating up on players with who would have trouble breakiing 80 on the courses I shoot sub-70s..." Sure, you would...

"Dreams can come true only after long and hard work." What America did you grow up in, pal? Dreams come true for those who think BIG, follow their heart, shut their ears to the jealous and bitter...

"...They aren't just handed to you by CEOs at press conferences...." I think you are talking about YOUR dream...of the free ride...

Sir, you are an embarrassment to men and parents everywhere. As you ego is clearly in shock, you turn on a 16-year old GIRL for criminy sake...instead of on the parasites and leeches and hypocrites that populate the world of golf.

Wie will be just fine, even in a world of dinosaurs in denial who need to live in a world of schaudenfraudeto justify your place in society...

Sincerely, a Dad who loves to see his daughters kick ass

Oh Oh... Tim's been drinking Baldie's kool aid. Kinda sad to see this happen as Tim was good and I enjoyed his blog articles before this one.

Tim's down on Michelle because Nike (& others) pay her the big $. If memory serves me right there would be 3 charitable organizations that would be out $850,000 if she hadn't gotten these endorsements. I believe that if statistics were kept, Michelle would rank #1 among all LPGA players who has contributed the most $ to charity. Not bad for a money-hungry 16 year girl!

I'm just so, so, so sadly disappointed in Tim McD!

* You cannot understand why Michelle Wie uis trying to qualify for the U.S. Open? Becuase it is the national chamionship--the title for the best golfer in the land. Few have the skills and aspirations. Most of the masses, like yourself, whinge and moan like, well, girls.

Publicity stunt?!! LOL!!! That is a good one. Learned that in blog school? She has shot 68 twice as a YOUNG teenage G-I-R-L. That is freakin' incredible. You simply do not get it, do you??? I am sure you would have prefered women "in their place." Geez, what a dinosaur.

"if Wie had the same accomplishments as Annika Sorenstam..." Again more nonsensical drivel. Since when are titles the prerequisite for the Open?? This is not the Titleholder's Tournament. This is the Open...open to everyone who can meet the minimum qualifying standards.

"Wie hasn't paid her dues." Again the raving of a idiot. She is bloody 16 years old. A girl!! Who is kicking men's butts left and right. Statements like paying dues or "doing what is right for the game" are the stupidest sanctimoionus, self-righteous and hypocritical pile of crap I have ever heard. Hear that Angela Stanford and Cristie Kerr? You play to win, to compete, to be the best, to win the most money, to set records...Last time I checked, there were no modest houses in Isleworth for us common folk. Cut the crap...please.

She is a millionaire because of her potential to change the game...Sound familiar? If she chose, she could have won hundreds of junior titles winning 10-8 against young girls who are lucky to break 80 on a muni. She is a millionaire becuase she is best positioned to make Nike and other lucky sponsors tens of millions. It is called QUID PRO QUO.

LOL!! Her dream is not to play with the big boys...A statement like that comes from 100% wannabees. Her dream is to be the best she can ever be...which in the zeal of youth is the best in the world. Too bad 99.999% of lazy obese American kids do not share her drive and verve.

"Seems to me to be a money-driven dream." You are hilarious!! You seriously have no clue whatsoever. She is a teenager, dude. She doesn't dream, of money, she dreams of what money can buy...like a day out in the mall...Her handlers, of your similar ilk, now THEY do dream about money, the parasites that they are...And her parents...who knows? Probably a little of both...Give them flack not the kid...

"Not only has she not proven she can play with the men." Wait!...YOU write a golf blog?? Here is a short list of PGA players she has outplayed in her "failed attempts" to play with the men: Adam Scott, Todd Hamilton, Shaun Micheel, Hunter Mahan, Tom Pernice, Jr., Scott Hoch, Steve Flesch, Craig Stadler, Billy Andrade, Carl Pettersson, Briny Bair, Kirk Triplett, Len Mattiace, Brent Geiberger, Aaron Baddeley, Lucas Glover, Nick Price, Larry Mize, David Gossett, Scott Simpson, Skip Kendall, Esteban Toledo, J.P. Hayes,...that is only from two tournaments...now bad for a LOL!! A 14 & 15 year old girl!!! Ha!ha!ha!ha!ha! Please, this chick, kicks big-time bootie...Oh yeah, she has tied the following as well...Stuart Appleby,Chad Campbell, Craig Perks,Ben Curtis, Jeff Maggert, Kenny Perry, Daniel Chopra, Darren Clarke,...Spare us the bitterness...she can already play...and on an extremely limited schedule...

Oh yeah, and the list is partial...

"She hasn't yet proven she can play with the women on a consistent basis." Dude, you must have fallen asleep for the past five years. Nine majors...five top 5 finishes. These include performances when she was 13 and 14!!! LOL!!! And...on a limited schedule...limited quite stupidly, by the LPGA...This year? Two tournaments, two top threes, one in a major...Hmmm...you must be one of those that feels Tiger is overrated unless he wins 25+ majors....

"They didn't just have... a gazillion dollars because they had long legs to go with their talent. They had to work for a living...." My guess is you never ran your own company...If they cannot beat a long-legged G-I-R-L created by a marketing machine, why on God's green earth do you think golfers past their peak deserve the big bucks? Sour grapes my friend...If I were a spondor, I would tell the bottom dwellers to shut their traps...

"I'd like to see Wie humiliated at the qualifier." NO, you mistyped, you NEED to have her humiliated...if she makes the US Open you will implode into a den of irrationality and circularity. Your world requirs her collapse...

"Michelle Wie is a brand name at this point, and Nike knows the score." Of course. They are making MILLIONS off of her. SHe deserves some of the candy...Like you would say, "No, sorry...I want to "earn" my millions by beating up on players with who would have trouble breakiing 80 on the courses I shoot sub-70s..." Sure, you would...

"Dreams can come true only after long and hard work." What America did you grow up in, pal? Dreams come true for those who think BIG, follow their heart, shut their ears to the jealous and bitter detractors that lurk around every corner...

"...They aren't just handed to you by CEOs at press conferences...." I think you are talking about YOUR dream...of the free ride...

Sir, you are an embarrassment to men and parents everywhere. Your ego clearly in shock, you turn on a 16-year old GIRL for criminy sakes. You should instead focus on the parasites and leeches and hypocrites that populate the world of golf, especially all those LPGA players that will see their purses double over the next 3-4 years because of Michelle alone.

Should she not make it into the Open, Wie will be just fine. She is tough enough to survive in a world of dinosaurs in denial who need in a world of schaudenfraude to justify their places in society...

Sincerely,
A Dad who loves to see his daughters kick ass in verything they do

Tim McD,

Nothing can go wrong with you trying to humiliate a kid. An old man trying to bashing a 16 years old kid. Man, man, man I tell you!!

Poor Timmy,

I guess he didn't expect THIS kind of onslaught !!! As for Baldwin, everyone knows he is nuts and don't bother to write to him except the die hard Wie fans. For Timmy, people thought he was a more serious guy and now everyone wants a piece of him.

Give him a break, he really wants mulligan, but his ego just doesn't allow to admit it. He is repenting quietly in his bedroom as we speak now....

I like you, Tim, at least what I've read of your work. And I'm all for Title IX and writing about Michelle Wie. But this blog looks and smells like a publicity stunt.

Gee Phish, why don't you tell us what you really think about Tim McD?

Honestly, I agree with EVERY SINGLE WORD that you write about Tim "Baldie Wannabee" McD! I couldn't have written it better myself. But "maybe" the spelling would have been slightly better?

That's what he needed, a slap upside the head before sending him to his bedroom to repent quietly (as per Jay).

Sour grapes Tim! Wie's good for the game, and believe it or not, even good for an egoist like you.

Tim. You're just upset that Michelle has more balls than you. Golf and otherwise.

Now go crawl back into your cave!

Of course Tim you wouldn't allow your kids to try and qualify. Sorry about yours they must be surpressed! If Nike gave your daughter a million dollars, I guess you would turn them down.

After reading the idiotic comments in this thread, I can say with 100% assurance that there isn't one poster here (except myself) who isn't a sheeple -- and this includes Tim M.

Where does one start? First of all, idiots, Tim M. is as much of a leftist as you'll find most anywhere. So, use your brains (if you still have two brain cells to rub together) before branding him.

Secondly, Title IX constitutes unjust and unconstitutional government intrusion into the private sector and is responsible for decimating certain men's scholastic sports. If you don't know why, I won't explain it. And you probably don't because you are, after all, sheeple.

Thirdly, I can answer a question one sheeple addressed to Tim M.: yes, I certainly WOULD want to see my child humiliated if it was warranted. You can't imagine why, huh? Well, without providing an exposition on the matter, sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind, as the song says, and, to quote C.S. Lewis, "Pain is the megaphone God uses to get through to deaf ears." However, I realize that you won't be able to wrap your limited minds around this, as sheeple are very shallow thinkers; that is, when they think at all.

Lastly, please spare us the phony claims of hurt feelings, such as when Tiny-brain Tim claimed that it was "emotionally gut-wrenching" for him to address his childless state. You sound like a bunch of capons. Sissies.

AhhSoo,
Sorry, I failed typing class...

Timmy, you have really degenerated into the creature from the black lagoon. I won't repeat the spot on comments that you've rightfully earned by putting out such a mean spirited piece of rubbish. I know that you can't generate many hits describing your round of 92 at certain golf course, or indulging in the many restaurants and motels in the red light district. But you could improve your credibility by expending your time and investigative know how in explaining how Morgan Pressel can come out and say that MW doesn't deserve an exemption into the US Womens Open. Now if you can figure this out, you can regain your professionalism by going through some therapy and ridding yourself of deep-seated childhood insecurities that plague your, Morgan's and Baldie's comments. Here's hoping that you are humiliated by your quests to be the very best blogger.....uh..oh...yeah for your own good:)Now get back into the swamp....Baldie's getting lonely!

No worries, Phish. Here's a great game from Yahoo's game site called TYPER SHARK. It is fun and guaranteed to improve your typing speed and accuracy. Here's proof: my personal record -- 134 WPM. I only use the X-Treme mode. I got up to level 12, for now.

Judge Smails, why do you change your username?
What was wrong with Under Par?

3 U.S. Junior Amateur Titles and 3 consecutive U.S. Amateur Titles, not to mention one NCAA championship, that is why Tiger Woods recieved the pre-professional payday from Nike. The fact that he, like Michelle Wie is marketable played a huge role as well, but as we all know Tiger had the resume to back up his endorsement windfall. I'm starting to smell some revsionist history when it comes to Michelle's amateur career. Michelle did win a lot of local junior and amateur events in Hawaii, but on the national scene her record was, lets just say, less than stellar. The fact is that Michelle only won one amateur title of note, the lightly regarded Women's Publinx. Michelle lost in the third round of the 2003 U.S. Girls Junior to none other than Morgan Pressel, she followed that up by losing in the first round of the 2003 U.S. Women's Amateur after barely qualifying for match play with a 75, 78 in stroke play(talk about barelt breaking 80). In 2004 she lost in the finals of the Women's Public Links, failing to repeat and lost in the second round to another one of her contemporaries In-Bee Par in the second round of the U.S. Women's Amateur. So please people no more talk about how Michelle has or would've, should've, could've dominated junior and amateur golf. She has tried and failed on numerous occasions in fact her amateur record looks just like her proffesional record, a lot of close calls, but no wins. Michelle is being paid because of her look, her potential and her novelty factor. Yes, I said novelty factor, because that's all her attempt to play with the men is, a cheap novelty gag. She will never win a men's tournament, she will probably never even contend, so if your not there to win, you're a sideshow. Can anyone on this blog seriously tell me that endorsers are lining up to pay a 16 year-old girl millions of dollars because she has x amount of top 5's on the LPGA tour. Give me a break! Just admit that Michelle is more sizzle than steak and let's move on.

Nice try Ford, or Should I say Morgan pressel?

Ford--

Yeah, all that amateur success is really helping Morgan Pressel out there--

Let me see Pressel missed a cut on the LPGA tour the week before finishing in 45th place in her next tournament .

With 9 events she ranks 30th on the money list.

Michelle Wie is not an LPGA member but she would rank 16th on the money list with just
2 events. MW has finished in the Top 3 in both her tournaments while Pressel's best finish this season is 7th.

Pressel to me is the OVER-RATED one by far-she doesn't deserve to be talked about in the same breath as Michelle Wie or Paula Creamer.

She needs to stop trying to get attention by attaching her name to Michelle Wie all the time--its pretty sad- just look at Baldie and Tim.

the US Open is an OPEN... that's what makes it something different... For you to say who should or shouldn't try to qualify - and hope that she is "humiliated" cuz she's chasing a dream is absolute BS and I have NO RESPECT for anyone who would say such a thing Your a Jerk - with a capital "J"

Ford,

So~ Is that why corporate sponsors are lining up to sign MP for multi-million dollar deals? I wonder what kind of deal MP received from Polo... Come on, Nike,SONY and Omega are no dummies; they know that they will get a good return from their investments in Michelle.

Michelle could not participate in junior tournaments mostly because she lives in Hawaii - long way from mainland. And her father is just a university professor and could not afford to travel to mainland to join in these tournaments. That's why she could not get all those wins.

I don't believe MP is a bad golfer. She is actually very good; her record shows that and she will get better. But her problem is the jealousy toward Michelle and immaturity... like crying after losing to Michelle. But then again there are many LPGA players who are quite envious but try to hide that feeling under the cover of "Michelle is not doing anything for LPGA". What a rubbish! They all should thank Michelle as more money will pour into LPGA soon enough.

I simply stated that she lost to Pressel at the 2003 U.S. Girls in response to all those who believe Michelle could have cleaned up all the Junior titles and Amateur titles with ease. Her record playing against her peers on a national stage speaks to the contrary. For the record, I do think Michelle is currently playing at a much higher level then Morgan and has twice the talent Pressel has, but that's not my point. So HoJo those tournaments that I mentioned Michelle playing in are just figments of my imagination. Talk about how pretty she is, how much potential she has or even how grounbreaking she is, but don't talk about her dominance at any level, because it just isn't there.

Ford,

I don't think anyone claimed that Michelle would or could have dominated at junior level had she played in those tournaments. We will never know what the outcomes would have been because she did not play a lot in mainland for a simple reason I stated above. BTW, when Michelle and MP played in the same professional tournaments, Michelle did dominate MP, resulting in a MP's public display of immaturity...after Field's Open.

Now that's good sportsmanship, wishing humiliation on another golfer.
Exactly what golf needs. Nice job Timmy.

Man, talk about a publicity stunt!?!?!

Your sociopathic rantings are a pathetic attempt by you and your insignificant web site to generate some sort of attention.

You harm the game. Please stop.

Michelle bashers like you are either afraid or jealous of her success and talent. The United States is fundamentally based on a meritocracy and a free market. Michelle has earned her success and idiots like you can only dream of even being a tenth of a person Michelle is at 16 years of age. So continue wallowing with your pathetic blog – it’s certainly an apropos fate for a miscreant of your caliber.

Wayne,
thanks for the tip. Perhaps I can improve upong my 25-30 wpm??? Would love for my kids not to have my "afflication." But wait, maybe Tim thinks that my girls should start with a watered down version as going over WPM requires a series of junior and women's titles...

A word on Morgan Pressel...

There are three basic types of top-tier athletes/entertainers. One type wants to be the best they can be. Type II wants to be the best relative to their peers. Type III wants to be considered the best. MP is a combination of Type II/III. MW is mostly Type I with a little of Type II.

MP defines herself in terms of others and otehrs' opinions, hence her pent up volatility and deep bitterness over MW. Sad and indicative of someone who was not raised properly. Unless she gains a fresh perspective on her clearly great potential, she will be miserable most of the time...like Sergio or Seve. In Sergio's case his 3rd in 99 was the worst thing that could have happened to him. He then beat an exhausted Tiger at the made for TV Battle of Bighorn. He rubbed it into Tiger and Tiger never forgot.

The parallel with MP is that like Sergio, MP has a serious attitude problem that gets her down when she does not have the attention and accolades. Like Sergio, MP lacks golfing humility. It is OK to want to be the best, but to think you have already made it is another story. ANd like Sergio, even when she plays well, MP is miserable if she does not win...sad...poor parenting and coaching...

Barring injury, MW will have a long and comfortable career. She is more like Natalie Gulbis, who besides being a perennial top 10 finisher, has successfully marketed herself. MP risks burn out as she is wound so tight. I don;t think she will be playing after age 28 or so...not out of choice but for never makign the transformation to a mature athlete. Her uncle (Aaron Krickstein) did not in tennis and neither will she.

MW? will probably leave the game at age 30 for family and never look back.

Phish: good post.

Great article on Wie by renowned SF sportswriter Glenn Dickey:

"Michelle Wie and Star Power"

http://www.glenndickey.com/_gd.php?view_one=yes&which=333

Ford said:
she followed that up by losing in the first round of the 2003 U.S. Women's Amateur after barely qualifying for match play with a 75, 78 in stroke play(talk about barelt breaking 80).
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INCORRECT.
Check your facts.
Michelle Wie finished 2nd in stroke play, 13 shots inside the cutline. Is that barely qualifying.
You are wrong, she did not shoot 75, 78.
She shot 73, 67.

Paula Creamer was 5th there, 3 strokes behind Michelle.

Of course Michelle lost to a girl, who had shot 80 on day 2, that is 13 strokes worse than Michelle.
That is the nature of matchplay. I watched my brother for many years dominate the strokeplay stages and he got knocked out early in lots of events by someone who had barely scraped through.

In matchplayer, the lesser player often wins. Strokeplay is where real golf is decided.

Ford said:
The fact is that Michelle only won one amateur title of note, the lightly regarded Women's Publinx.
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Is that the lightly regarded Publinx of 2003, where Michelle bet the 2003 amateur champion, and the 2004 amateur champion on her way to picking up the title?

How is it so lightly regarded, when Wie needed to knock out both the 2003 and 2004 amateur champions in order to win it? Is the Amateur Championships regarded lightly too in that case? So what exactly isn't regarded lightly, because there really isn't anything else in the amateur womens game.

I agree completely with Phish on Morgan Pressel

She has talent but her deep bitterness,resentment and jealousy towards Michelle, which she cannot conceal espy in front of the media, will eventually exhaust her and eat up whatever talent she has.

She not only wants to win, she wants to beat Michelle badly and each time she doesn't, it's going to mess up her psyche and affect her playing negatively.

She is a legend in her own mind at least at the junior level and she cannot understand why it's not carrying over to the pro level.

Golf is a mental game too and she cannot handle it mentally. Her grandfather (as did her father earlier ) probably cannot do anything about it because she is so headstrong and stubborn.

What a shame.

All, just one observation. Baldie currently has three threads listed but there is no comment, zero. McD successfully hijacked... posters. I gotta hand it to you, McD... Job well done. That's it for me with this thread unless Baldie comes up with something more juvenile... than McD.

I'm not going to read every single post, so if this is repetitive, forgive me.

She HAS proven she can play with the men, while McDonald can only play with ... himself;

It is disturbing to wish humiliation on one he purportedly likes;

Who is the next charismatic male golfer on the horizon...Gore? Nope. Donald or Dougherty? Nope. Pablo Martin? Nope. Villegas? Nope. The ladies are the future of golf, Timbo. Don't alienate them.

Where to begin with your comments? For a man who runs a blog, and who is probably educated, you have all your facts wrong, but maybe this isn't about the facts? Maybe this is about people being afraid of the future for the PGA. When Babe played with the men, there wasn't all this fuss, and anger. Why? Because as good as she was, they knew inside that she would never be able to compete long term on the PGA. With Michelle, it appears that the sky is the limit. And as for your comment about not paying dues, let retrace history for a minute: Kobe Bryant- $3.5 million (as a 17 yr high school grad) plus $7.5 million in endorsements. All this before ever playing a game in the NBA. Sidney Crosby-(NHL) $2 million plus incentives, and a $6 million contract with Reebok. 18 yrs old, no NHL experience. LeBron James- $4.6 million, plus endorsements with Nike for $90 million, and upper deck trading cards for $1 million. All at the age of 18 and no games played in the NBA. $90 million by Nike, yet Michelle only got $5 million. hmmm Who got underpaid? I guess that the trend in men's sports of them getting high salaries and endorsements BEFORE ever playing in the professional arena is different than Michelle Wie? Now who is the one humilitated?

What a childish, churlish column. Wie was the low medalist in her qualifier and earned (the first woman to do so) the right to compete. Root for whomever you choose, but to want someone humiliated -- a teenager at that -- is pathethic.

unlike you, i think michelle deserves every cent of the multi millions she was given by nike since she is the one who is bringing lots of money back into the game of golf. she is the one bringing most of the public interest, media coverage, huge galleries, exposure and ultimately lots of money into golf. just her name alone is turning this otherwise uninteresting sectional qualifying event into something of national media interest. yes, she is indeed very marketable, but if you are going to fault her for being very marketable, you might as well critisize all the sports celebrities, movie stars, singers, supermodels, and all the entertainers who have used their names to get endorsement deals. i also think it is very unrealistic of you to expect a teenager to have already "paid her dues". she just turned pro not too long ago and needs time to learn, grow as a player, and "pay her dues". you are already comparing her to annika when michelle hasn't even played as many years as annika, and hasn't had as much time to prove herself as annika has. this whole blog seems like a marketing scheme to lure more hits and more comments, which apparently worked. it just goes to show that marketability is just as important as talent, both of which michelle wie seems to have plenty of.

Even if she finishes last she can't be humiliated. She's a 16 year old girl playing against seasoned pros. But any man she beats will be humiliated !

So what is your point Tim?

This guy's like the biggest troll on the net.

Have they ever thought of firing this guy?

Couldn't agree more with the comment bashing you, Tim. You have no clue. Go Michelle!

Hard times of a former foe:

"Among those who missed the cut were...seven-time LPGA winner Danielle Ammaccapane (144)..."

6/3/06 20:17:46 ET

Seems most everyone else took their shot at bashing Mr. McDonald, so, I'll refrain ;). In lieu of that, maybe just a little needling. I have a question for you, Tim (with a short preface):

It's public knowledge that MW has the dream to play the Masters. One of the arguments (I use the term loosely) you made in your post juxtaposes that dream with her "publicity stunt" (your view, not mine) attempt at qualifying for the 2006 US Open, with, I have to assume, the intent of asking "Why isn't she trying to qualify to play in the Masters rather than the Open, if that's REALLY her dream?" while also implying that her doing so is therefore a less than genuine attempt.

The question, of course, is: how do you propose she go about trying to qualify for the Masters this year? Short answer: She can't (look it up). BUT, she CAN qualify to play in the US and British Opens. She's opted to play the HSBC Matchplay, which runs during British qualifying, so that's out. That leaves the US Open. [BTW, if by some chance she does qualify for the 2006 Open and finish in the top 8(?), she WOULD qualify for the 2007 Masters. So, does that count as a genuine attempt at chasing her dream?]

Now, I'd have give you some credit if you'd argued that maybe she might think to qualify for a regular PGA tour event first, instead of shooting straight for the Open; she didn't qualify in her one attempt (Sony 2003), finishing 47th out of 97 at age 13, if memory serves. There's some logic to that argument. But to chalk her qualifying attempt up only to greed and publicity-seeking in the out-of-hand fashion that you do is pretty despicable of someone who can't know her motives even second-hand.

Oh, and you lose all credit for this little gem: "...she hasn't yet proven she can play with the women on a consistent basis." Have you been watching at all? Do you not do ANY research for your writing? Here's a number for you that hits home pretty well regarding how well MW fares against the BEST women, not just "the women" in golf: 0.8190. Yes, there is another number out there, 0, that is [i]something[/i] of a spectre, but it's not the issue you chose to raise. Let me know if you need an explanation ;).

oooo, Hang-Ten, you are really, really in need of some serious counseling.

Morgan Pressel had a fine result this week--T5. There was some thought that doing schoolwork and the tour together was taking its toll on her. Now that school is over for her, it looks like she is back on track with her golf. Wil there be a similar improvement for Michelle Wie?

Jim,

Let see how Morgan Pressel and Michelle Wie match up this season. I am not so sure Morgan will become closer to Michelle. Time will tell. Just wait until the end of this year.

I think it's pretty clear that Michelle Wie is held in high regard. She's a class act, and a talented golfer. Most people I know wish her well. That anyone reacts to her with jealousy or lack of politeness says more about that person.

A little fact,

"What's different here is that Wie is simply pursuing a spot in the Open field as if her gender were not even in the equation. She is attempting something radical and new, and how often do we get to see that?"

"Wie is a year younger than Tiger Woods when he first qualified for the Open, and two years younger than Nicklaus was. There would be no shame in failing to qualify Monday."

"But there is greatness in the trying, and you have to pity anyone who can't see that."

Tim,
If you're just trying to get a rise out of people..you got it. But you should also be ashamed. Its columns like these that are the reason the media gets a bad name. I will be out there on Monday, covering an event for the ages. Sure her chances are slim, but we cover it because its newsworthy. You're the kind of reporter who probably thumbed his nose at the Dakota Dowd story because you thought it was all "just a PR move" Shame on you for your cynicism. Something I'll tell you to your face if I see you at the Qualifier

Steve Overmyer
Sportsnet New York

Steve, it appears as though you are, in fact, a journalist – at least technically -- so you should be familiar with the term “homer.” If you aren’t, ask your colleagues. I checked out some of your “writing” and it looks like you personify the term. Think of the word “cheerleader.” It’s the lowest form of sportswriting and those who practice it are looked down upon by veteran journalists.

Some samples of your writing:

“I almost couldn’t contain my excitement watching the Indianapolis 500 play out.”

Gee whiz!

“Then there’s Danica Patrick . Who doesn’t want her to win?”

The very definition of "homer."

There are also these hackneyed clichés:

“force to be reckoned with”

“Breath of fresh air.”

Then, you go on to write about the death of your pet hamster.

Faced with the choice of cynicism or amateurish, clichéd, “homer” writing, I’ll take cynicism, thank you. Check back with me when you learn what it means to be a journalist. In the meantime, I don’t think we’ll meet face-to-face, thank god. You’ll be in the “homer” section.

Ha,
If homer means someone who enjoys sports... then yeah, guilty as charged. And if you took some time to read my blogs you'd realize those stories were meant to be comic releif in illustrating a point. Of course you don't have a sense of humor... you pick on 16-year-old girls for a living. Congrats to you. And I'm 10 times the journalist you'll ever be. Good luck with your life

Steve, well you're right on one point: your writing IS comic relief. And you have another distinction: you're the only "sportswriter" I've ever come in contact with who cheerfully admitted to being a "homer." Talk about shame. Good luck with your cheerleading career.

This is for you Tim dim-bulb.

Wie sure has been humiliated. She shoots 68 on her first round.

Don't worry Steve Overmyer --

I think everyone here knows you are a 100 times the journalist Tim purports himself to be.

Don't pay too much attention to Tim--I think his bad Karma even helped Michelle out in the first round.

Tim its better to be a homer than a publicity-stunt making attention whore like you. You make
Stephen A. Smith seem like Dick Schaap.

What were you doing when you were 16 that had anyone's attention that was of any real consequence? I doubt that you were doing anything. Your comments sound like a sick form of envy to me.

7 holes to play...

-5 and she is in
-4 and most likely she is in although possibly a playoff
-3 playoff

She is still at -2...now or never for the putter to get hot...

Actally she has not putted poorly...zero thre putts and excellent lags...but from what I understand, she has only converted on 3/9 birdie opps. But in this tournament good is not good enough...needs to go one notch higher...let's see if she can do it!! Once again, so darn close...

Tim,
Keep responding to Steve, it helps to reaffirm the silly childish image you are so obviously shooting for. Wie's quote from the Dickey (a moron, but he actually gets this right) article is fitting here-

To her credit, Wie disregards that. “I’m used to people judging me without knowing me,” she said the other day. “I’m in high school.”

Tim, you'll be happy to learn (or actually, maybe you won't) that Michelle's goal to play against the men has been one she's had since early childhood. It didn't originate with her father or her mother, and it certainly didn't originate with Nike. She's always wanted to be one of the best. It's that simple.

She's always approached golf as if gender isn't even in the equation--something she should be applauded for, not criticized. When you insist that she needs to "pay her dues" more than any other golfer who's trying to qualify for the US Open, you're the one adding an arbitrary gender requirement.

For someone who purportedly supports equality for women, how can you not see that you're applying a sexist double standard here?

On Wie- I'm glad she did not qualify! The men's tour is not a place for women! Men are not trying to qualify for the Women's US Open .....It's not OK with me or countless male golfers that feel the same way. It a freakin joke to allow women on the men's tour. I would like(I demand) to see this stop! Why does the PGA Tour continue to let this happen! Finchem's legency is going to be effective by allowing this to continue. Get some ball's you guy's do not let this women's movement make you set on the toilet. I'm serious here. The end result here is not good ! Must I be the one to tell you if this continue's and we give our terms up as men the future is clouded by women and their terms! How does that sounds boys! SW

I think you should get a hair transplant to cover up your obvious ignorance of the facts!

It's like I said in a previous posting that apparently has been deleted. Michelle Weak, alias Miss Last Place, alias Miss Sports Media Darling, golf division, should've withdrawn from the 84 Lumber Classic for the good of the tournament. Instead, Miss Last Place finishes--lo and behold--in last place!

Amazingly, I witnessed an historic first in televised golf tournament history. ESPN actually highlighted and interviewed the last place finisher. Isn't that usually the last person that a network covering a golf tournament would interview? Oh, I forgot...this is Miss Last Place, who actually had the gall to say she thinks she should make the Ryder Cup.
How...as a caddy?