Tim McDonald - Latest Comments on The Big Mystery at U.S. Open and Winged Foot

One-Putt [Visitor] in response to: The Big Mystery at U.S. Open and Winged Foot

One-Putt [Visitor] — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:37:11 +0000

"Comment from: Tim McDonald [Member]
Well, that doesn't really address the issue. You can throw in all the apices, apexes and poas you want, Mr. Wizard. The result is that the greens are slower than expected -- uniformly -- and the players have failed to adjust."

It is comforting to know that Michelle Wie is not alone with her problem of adjusting to slower greens. One day she is playing in a US Open sectional with greens running at 12 to 12.5 and the next she starts a tournament where they barely hit 10 on the sunny days. Of course she just failed to adjust...

Tim McDonald [Member] in response to: The Big Mystery at U.S. Open and Winged Foot

Tim McDonald [Member] — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:36:45 +0000

Well, that doesn't really address the issue. You can throw in all the apices, apexes and poas you want, Mr. Wizard. The result is that the greens are slower than expected -- uniformly -- and the players have failed to adjust.

Ron Mon [Member] in response to: The Big Mystery at U.S. Open and Winged Foot

Ron Mon [Member] — Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:07:19 +0000

Yeah, what you're missing is the combination of severe slopes, poa annua, and extra agua. If you get it going too quickly over the apex, it takes off. As the commentators have indicated, you sometimes have conflicting vertical and horizontal fall lines on greens, which heightens the number of apices to be summitted.