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Jeff [Visitor] in response to: Critics of U.S. Solheim Cup captain Nancy Lopez should listen to youngsters

Jeff [Visitor] — Thu, 29 Sep 2005 22:52:34 +0000

Wow, what a long topic. So long to read all this stuff.

For my two-pence worth, I think in those last quotes:
I think Phil meant she should have made the cut, meaning that something went against her, like she got a bad rub of the green. ie it wasn't her fault.
As regards Vijay, he doesn't think she can win yet. I think that's probably Vijay's gender bias. Wasn't he giving out when Annika was let play at the Colonial.
He said he would be embarrassed to be bet by a woman, so he is no fan of women golfers. He will always take a dig at them.

Shanks [Visitor] in response to: Critics of U.S. Solheim Cup captain Nancy Lopez should listen to youngsters

Shanks [Visitor] — Thu, 29 Sep 2005 22:16:49 +0000

1. Those are not my words.
2. They mean exactly what they said.
3. No, Phil was a proven winner in 20 PGA Tour events before he won the '94 Masters. He was just plain wrong in the manner in which he chose to play. He freely admits that now.

Norman [Visitor] in response to: Critics of U.S. Solheim Cup captain Nancy Lopez should listen to youngsters

Norman [Visitor] — Thu, 29 Sep 2005 21:22:37 +0000

Glad you followed your last words on the subject, by another few words on the subject.

I don't know what putting in a few random quotes are for. These guys do so many press conferances, you could find quotes to back up any point of view.

As regards Phil's quote. He says she should have made the cut. Maybe he means she should have made it had it not been for a bad run of the ball.

As regards Vijay, all he says is she needs time. Vijay is well able to win run of the mill events but, his major wins (3) are a pretty poor return for his talent. He should have at least 7-8 with his talent and maybe even more. But I still think he's pretty strong mentally, even if others disagree.

Just one final important question for Shanks:
Before Phil won the US Master's did he lack emotional maturity?

Shanks [Visitor] in response to: Critics of U.S. Solheim Cup captain Nancy Lopez should listen to youngsters

Shanks [Visitor] — Thu, 29 Sep 2005 15:19:47 +0000

Some others who are saying what I have been saying ....

Phil Mickelson says "It's just a matter of another couple of events before she makes a cut on a men's tour event. She should have made it at the John Deere (in July)."

Vijay Singh agrees. The No. 2-ranked player in the world rooted for Wie to make the cut in the John Deere Classic. "It would be a great feat. She's a good enough player," Singh says. "She has a lot of ability. She has to learn how to win."

USA Today 9/29/05

Shanks [Visitor] in response to: Critics of U.S. Solheim Cup captain Nancy Lopez should listen to youngsters

Shanks [Visitor] — Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:52:49 +0000

You see what I'm saying as an insult, but it's not. It's just a fact of life, a statement of truth. Do you really think that ANY 15-year-old doesn't need emotional maturity??? C'mon!

(And these are my last words on this tedious subject.)

Norman [Visitor] in response to: Critics of U.S. Solheim Cup captain Nancy Lopez should listen to youngsters

Norman [Visitor] — Thu, 29 Sep 2005 02:03:20 +0000

but you keep saying the same things!

"She is emotionally immature".
That is basically a direct insult.
.... and a comment made where all the facts point in the opposite direction .... but we've had that argument before.

I agree with you that she is not the finished product. I think her putting needs alot of improvement for one thing. However I think the mental side of her game is one of her strongest assets. She's proved time and time again that she can handle the pressure against the odds.
For instance when she plays a bad hole she seems to be able to regroup in a way that defies her youth.

Shanks [Visitor] in response to: Critics of U.S. Solheim Cup captain Nancy Lopez should listen to youngsters

Shanks [Visitor] — Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:27:14 +0000

Guys, you really need to get a grip. I like Michelle a lot. She has amazing talent. She looks to be a great bet to become the best female golfer alive. But she not the finished product yet, primarily because of her youth and it's accompanying emotional immaturity (although greatness is not guaranteed). You are reading things into my comments that I am not saying.

Norman [Visitor] in response to: Critics of U.S. Solheim Cup captain Nancy Lopez should listen to youngsters

Norman [Visitor] — Sat, 24 Sep 2005 19:02:20 +0000

Rodney, how can you say Shanks likes Michelle. He might say he does, but then the next thing he starts calling her a choker. If you like someone you don't do that to them.