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| Masters |
April 12, 2005, 5:06 pm |
by Garry
As always Baldwin,I wonder what tournament you were watching.Tiger's talents are immense,maybe the best ever.there is no question about.I would like to take this opportunity to clear a few things up for you.Tiger did not erase Dimarco's lead.Dimarco erased Dimarco's lead.Tiger would not have won the masters without Dimarco's help.Dimarco choked or did you miss that part.Next time watch the whole tournament,before you start running off at the mouth.
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| RE: Masters |
April 12, 2005, 5:34 pm |
by Ivory Rubin
I want to express my appreciation to Chris DiMarco for the wonderful exhibition of gritty, gutsy, and professional championship golf that he threw at Tiger Woods. Anyone who is under the impression that DiMarco choked is sadly mistaken. In addition, those same uninformed individuals are being incredibly disrespectful of the guts and professionalism of Mr. DiMarco. Shooting 68 on Sunday at the Masters is a masterful exhibition of golfing skill. Tiger, with his seven consecutive birdies, shooting 67-66 in the second and 3rd rounds was the difference. Chris DiMarco's performance should place him on the list that is headed by Tiger Woods and Retief Goosen as the toughest competitors on the PGA Tour.
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April 15, 2005, 4:09 pm |
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| RE: RE: Masters |
April 15, 2005, 4:09 pm |
by Garry
Yes Ivory,Tiger played extremely well,as did Dimarco.You seem to forget though,that Chris shot a 40 on the back nine Sunday morning.A double bogey and 3 bogeys to let Tiger in the door.If he could sustain a drive Chris would have several majors to his credit.But??? You call it what ever you want Ivory,But I'll call it choking.
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| RE: RE: RE: Masters |
April 16, 2005, 10:52 am |
by Ivory Rubin
OK, Garry!!(LOL) But consider this: YOU are starting the final round in the final group down by three strokes. Following your opening tee shot, you're able to stop and shop at the new KMART that was built between your drive and his (61 yards). He proceeds to slap you with consecutive birdies on the opening holes, and ALL you can do is respond with birdies of your own. The end result is, after 18 tension-packed holes of golf on one of the most intimidating courses in the world, you've out scored the leader by three strokes (68 to 71), resulting in the need for a playoff. BUT, you're feats are considered by observers as choking??? And you don't wonder that your observers have "the glass is half empty" paradymes??
Seriously, DiMarco "choked" (your point of view) a 40 on Sunday morning, and returns just hours later to shoot 68 in the final round of the Masters?? "Not folding his tent" is seen by most observers, most notably his playing partner, as very gutsy.
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| RE: RE: Masters |
April 12, 2005, 6:30 pm |
by FRED SELTMAN
GET REAL FOLKS.WOODS WON ON PURE LUCK.
THE DAY HE GOT TO MARK HIS BALL--YOU KNOW--THE ONE WITH MUD ON THE SPOT WHERE HE HAD TO HIT IT. THEN THE NEXT MORNING GOT TO PLACE A CLEAN BALL AND PRODUCED A BIRDIE. WITH THE MUD --NO WAY.
THEN THE HOOK INTO THE WOODS THAT WENT IN DEEP BUT HIT A TREE AND GAME OUT RIGHT--INTO THE FAIRWAY.
THE --GREAT--PITCH ON THE PAR THREE. HE COULD HIT A TRUCK LOAD OF BALL FOR THE NEXT 3 MONTHS AND NOT DO THAT AGAIN.
IF THAT IS NOT ENOUGH--THE BALL HANGS ON THE EDGE-----THEN AT THE LAST SECOND DROPS IN. THIS IS ALL LUCK
DIMARCO GOT TO THE PLAY OFF ON SKILL. ANY APE CAN BE TRAINED TO SWING LIKE A NUT BUT WILL NEVER DEVELOP REAL SKILL.
GET OVER IT--HE IS ONE LUCKY ====.
ANY BODY WANT TO HELP HIM MOVE A BOLDER TO SAVE A STROKE? LOOSE IMPEDIMENT MY FOOT.
FRED SELTMAN
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| RE: RE: RE: Masters |
April 14, 2005, 7:13 am |
by Ivory Rubin
It is you, Mr. Seltman, who needs to get over "it"...whatever your "it" may reference. Since you refuse to recognize that Tiger Woods has accomplished more (wins, majors, etc.) in golf at this stage of his career than ANYONE before him at the same point in their careers; and, based on your incredibly insensitive comment ("...any ape can be trained to swing like a nut...") your discontent with Mr. Woods seems to be racially motivated. You need to get over IT (your racial hangups), before you make that type of stupid remark again in the presence of someone who may make you eat those words...along with a number of your teeth.
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| RE: RE: RE: RE: Masters |
April 14, 2005, 9:00 pm |
by Junkdog
Mr. Seltman must be one of the few people who think that Tiger is the only person who has luck on his side to win. If you ask DiMarco, he would probably say he wish he had that luck.
There are many champions in other sports not just golf who had some luck to be the best. If I remember correctly, Phil Mickelson's putt last year to win was made easier with the help of DiMarco. I would say that Mickelson was "lucky" because DiMarco putted first and gave him the line. I'm positive that Phil was not complaining about that luck.
But don't forget that the harder you work to be the best, the more likely you will put yourself in a position to be lucky. One lucky shot does not win the tournament. It is the numerous shots or scrambling from bad shots to put you in a position to win.
I guess Mr. Seltman had been on the other side of bad luck too many times which is why he is bitter. Maybe he should talk to the ape and get lessons so he could be lucky.
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| Tiger & the Masters |
April 12, 2005, 2:36 pm |
by Bert
What's sad is that Tiger won it on a one-hole playoff with one good hole out of his last 3. Wonder what would have happened in a 3-hole playoff? We'll never know, but all you media types are happy now that you have Tiger with which to sell papers and spots again. All the pros admit that winning has some luck involved; so why do we have one-hole playoffs in major tournaments, if luck could decide the outcome? I have an idea, instead of 4 days of boring TV tourney coverage; let's seed the top 20 players in the world and have a one day, one hole match play tournament; heck, you could get it done in 2 hours and still have 10 minutes worth of commercials.
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| Tiger Woods |
April 12, 2005, 12:34 pm |
by Joe Arroyo
Are you a paid spokesman for Tiger Woods? Get over it, already! The "new" Tiger Woods is superior to other players only mentally (and not by as much as he used to be). Despite DiMarco's collapse to complete the 3rd round if he had made a putt during the middle part of the final round he would have won by a couple of strokes (he missed at least 3 from 10 feet that i saw). 22 majors? Not a chance. Let's see him get to 12 first. But only if he stops trying to drive the ball 400 yards.
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| RE: Tiger Woods |
April 12, 2005, 5:06 pm |
by Ivory Rubin
And what are you, Joe Arroyo? A Tiger basher? That young man has superior physical and mental skills that even his fellow PGA players recognize. If anyone needs to get over anything, it's people like you who seem to find pleasure in denouncing one of the greatest golfers the sport has ever known. Just what is the defining issue for you? I can only wonder if what your stance would be on Phil Mickelson, Chris DiMarco, or any other of the many talented young professionals if they were experiencing the same level of success as Tiger Woods.
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| Tiger |
April 12, 2005, 8:51 am |
by Dan
Even though DiMarco crashed early, the turned it around and went head to head with Tiger but came up one stroke short.
As for Tiger's future, he's only 29 he has 31 years left before the Champion Tour. I think 22 majors is being very conservative.
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| Tiger Woods |
April 12, 2005, 8:44 am |
by Bernard Brandon
You have it spot on with Tiger and youre appraisal . The only omission was this . After anyone had fired perfect shot after perfect shot at those highly slippy surfaces and palyed across all time frames and irregular hours for 5 days or more ( including the 9 hole and the practice days )maybe any one would also get a bit brain damaged for a couple of moments and thus take 5 and 5 when the commentators and teachers( who cannot ) observe what Tiger ( who can) should have done!
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